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Box jointing on the shaper.

Started by hackberry jake, April 23, 2015, 10:13:59 PM

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jueston

a box joint is really strongest end grain to end grain, is there a reason you choose that joint for the bottom? is it cosmetic or does it make the glue up easier? it seems to me you could move your bottom side slat down a use a floating panel held in place by your bottom slat and ends.

just a thought...

hackberry jake

Quote from: jueston on May 04, 2015, 08:19:34 AM
a box joint is really strongest end grain to end grain, is there a reason you choose that joint for the bottom? is it cosmetic or does it make the glue up easier? it seems to me you could move your bottom side slat down a use a floating panel held in place by your bottom slat and ends.

just a thought...
I really just did it this way to simplify it. I only have two different parts that make the crate. The end pieces that are just small glued up panels and then cut out on the cnc router, and the slats. What would you use for the bottom panel? 1/4" hardboard comes to mind. It's pretty stgron and cheap. It might take away from the "rustic" feel though.
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jueston

for that size i think 1/4 ply would work fine.

in my humble opinion, that item is a little too pretty to be rustic. i think of rustic as some roughsawn boards attached with exposed nails.

i'm not saying the bottom isn't strong enough, just saying that the joinery there seems like unnecessary complication.

i didn't realize the bottom was the same slats as the sides, making lots of the same piece is always faster, so thats a good idea if you want to knock out a lot of them.

if you changed the design to a 1/4 ply and put in dado's to hold it, it would make a lot more unique pieces, which might take more time to keep straight.

hackberry jake

Well, Larry was right. It took a while to get them, but they came in yesterday. While I was at it, I ordered a 4" diameter rub bearing so I can use the same cutters as a poor mans spiral pattern cutter. I got two 1/4" cutters and two 1/2" cutters for more versitility. I got the T-alloy versions instead of carbide because T-alloy gets sharper than carbide and it should help minimize tear-out. I also ordered an assortment of t-bushings and spacers (which cost about the same amount as the cutters). Since one of my shapers has a 1" spindle.
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Tom L

how do those flat faced cutters put the radius in the corner?

and how do you set up the adjacent cut, just redo the spacers to match?

hackberry jake

I havent tried the shaper yet. The piece in the picture was cut with a router bit. The sides of thr crates are cut using a router as well.
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 I would suggest you double nut the spindle with that setup. I usually do on any cutter that weighs over 5 pounds. Was recommended to me by an old man I trust.

Larry

hackberry jake

That shaper just happens to have a set of nuts two threaded locking devices. Both nuts have setscrews as well.
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Man, that looks like the bees knees box joints!
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