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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2015, 10:21:18 PM »
But some hard work and parts can make like this,
 

 
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2015, 10:24:08 PM »
Lets get some full size pictures of the machine, Looks similar in size to my 20,
 

 
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2015, 04:13:07 PM »
 

 

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2015, 04:15:34 PM »
 

 

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 04:27:37 PM »
Lets get some full size pictures of the machine, Looks similar in size to my 20,
 

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Tantoy, those pics are sweet. Nice restore job. Thats a treefarmer model 20 right? It looks awesome. Detroit 3-53?

Still getting familiar to posting pics on the forum but I think these worked out better.,

Im new to all things skidders. Ive driven a cat 518 before for a few weeks helping a local logger in highschool and Ive never forgotten it! It was awseome. Im still not positive on what model this oe is, but Ive decided to buy it for sure. Ive got a freight trailer just waiting on what day I pick to go pick it up. Work has been so crazy, which is great because its financing this buy but it sure would be nice to have a saturday or sunday off haha.

I was thinking about taking a portable air compressor with me and filling up the two low tires before loading it. Do you guys thinks it worth it?  We are going to load it by pushing it up onto the ramp with a dozer. Im a little nervous about this as Im not sure how the articulating center will act when we go to load it. They just sold another non running skidder and used the dozer to push it up onto a trailer so hopefully it works out. I cant wait to get it home.

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2015, 04:30:37 PM »
Would a ratching come along work well for lifting the blade up for loading? Wrap it around the two bars coming down from the cab and then around the blade, lifting it up.

Thanks for the input guys, Ill keep you all posted on how things go.

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2015, 04:33:14 PM »
That is a c4b way earlier than 72. 64-65 maybe
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2015, 06:10:36 PM »
GA Jones does that make it even more undesirable? They said for sure it has the 3-53detroit not the gas engine that came with them. Let me know what u guys think. I'm planning to go look at it next Wednesday.

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2015, 06:53:26 PM »
That winch is obsolete. Direct drive no clutch. The machine is probably worth about 3500 bucks around here.the rest of the machine is easy to get parts for.
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2015, 08:52:19 PM »
That is a c4b way earlier than 72. 64-65 maybe

I was thinking the same thing with that type of arch and winch drive. Don't know the model, but would also say it's older than a 72.


You will be fine with using a come along to lift the blade of ground and with a dozer you should not have any trouble getting it on a trailer.
Make sure you know how to fall properly when you fall and as to not hurt anyone around you.
Also remember, it's not the fall what hurts, its the sudden stop. !!

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2015, 09:10:40 PM »
Unless it is a Garrett built TreeFarmer, it would be a late 60's. I thought all the early C4's had ford power. I am by no means an expert though. I defer to those more in the "know".  For the right price it has serious potential.
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« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2015, 11:08:20 AM »
We used chains and binders to keep the skidder from articulating when we loaded it. We lifted blade with loader and chained it up. I like your idea of airing up tires first, help save the tires and easier to load. That machine has much potential!
 

 
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2015, 12:08:12 PM »
 You tell by the arch. The pipe style is early 60s. That 3-53 is not the original engine. By the looks of the air filter housing its out of an s8 international. You'll know when you go buy the filter.
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2015, 02:01:38 PM »
C4b can car tree farmer. Davco in Farmington Maine has everything for them. A lot of stuff is available at a local auto parts house too.
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2015, 03:04:13 PM »
Well I've got everything set in stone. Going down early Wednesday morning, got a semi coming in around noon. Hopefully on the road by 1.

Tantoy excellent idea on chaining the front and rear axle together to stop it from pivoting. I'm going to use chain come alongs from work. Got three 1.5 ton for this job. I'll definitely use the dozer blade to help lift up the front blade. I hope the tires take air. Would suck if they get even more damaged while transporting home. Taking my brother along for the trip as well.


 relieving to hear that Its a decent model and parts are still around.

Ga jones, I'm actually happy that it's a 3-53 and not the original gas engine or ford Diesel. I've heard good and bad things about the Detroit but man they sure sound good, screaming through the woods. Once I have pictures of the name plate and stuff I'll post it. Any specific area the name plates are put on these treefarmers?

From what little I've read 3-53 is a 3 cylinder 2 stroke diesel. Sorry for my ignorance guy, like I said this is my first diesel....even haha. I can repair chainsaws and small gas engines all day. But never messed with a diesel.

Tantoy and ga jones, thanks for all your helpful input thus far!

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2015, 07:57:38 PM »
The serial number plate is under the clutch master cylinder. It doesn't mean anything these days though.
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2015, 08:17:36 PM »
Good decision. They are good old machines. They will pull wood. Frames are solid. Simple to work on. Component machine so low cost if u do your own wrenching. Week point is the axles but keep in mind it is a small machine. Max production machine for 2015? Nope but for part time work it will get u started. U have to climb a little to get up into it but you will survive. :)


 
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2015, 09:36:28 PM »
My T.J. 3-53  was locked solid , and couldn't move it with a 4' pipe . Removed valve cover ,  checked the valves for free play and loaed the cyl.s with penetrating oil over night . The very next day she broke free with that 4' pipe , but just go back and forth easy . She runs perfect --maybe I just got lucky .

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2015, 09:57:11 PM »
My T.J. 3-53  was locked solid , and couldn't move it with a 4' pipe . Removed valve cover ,  checked the valves for free play and loaed the cyl.s with penetrating oil over night . The very next day she broke free with that 4' pipe , but just go back and forth easy . She runs perfect --maybe I just got lucky .

Nice! So I have heard Marvel Mystery oil is great for soaking seized rings. Sometimes soaking it for weeks. Has anyone used it? Or is it just an urban myth?
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2015, 10:05:30 PM »
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