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Started by Wlmedley, July 30, 2024, 08:26:06 PM

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Wlmedley

Sold a bit of lumber in the last month or so and decided instead of blowing the money I would invest a little back in my hobby.Bought a small planer and my UPS man delivered it today. I have never owned one and plan to use it mostly for my projects or maybe for some high value lumber. Any suggestions on a setup.It's a Dewalt 735.
Bill Medley WM 126-14hp , Husky372xp ,MF1020 ,Homemade log arch,GMC2500,Oregon log splitter,Honda Pioneer 700,Kabota 1700

Old Greenhorn

I think you just stepped off the edge of a slippery slope. ffcheesy ffcool
 One thing leads to another and although I know you to be a thoughtful and measured person, I think this is the beginning of 'something' for you. First thing you are going to need in some infeed and outfeed supports. Does the head move down on that planer or does the bed move up? You will need infeed and outfeed supports no matter what, so you just have to figure that out. I started with a delta lunch box and the bed moving up drove me a little crazy because I had to constantly adjust the in and out feed supports to match it.
 Somebody else here, no doubt, will have a solution for this that I didn't think of. Which would be handy for me, because my Woodmaster also had a moving table, rather than head, I just don't use it as much these days.
 Best of luck with the new toy tool.
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way. NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
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Wlmedley

Tom, I haven't opened the box yet.Spent the day finishing a small wood order but I'm pretty sure head moves up and down.Also it came with in feed and out feed trays and a extra set of blades.Now that I've sold my boat I have a 12'x30' building that I can use this winter to work out of although I plan to do most planing outside.The only planer I've ever had is a electric hand held Dewalt so this will be a learning experience.I suppose I'll build a stand of some sort with wheels and maybe need a roller stand or two.
Bill Medley WM 126-14hp , Husky372xp ,MF1020 ,Homemade log arch,GMC2500,Oregon log splitter,Honda Pioneer 700,Kabota 1700

Old Greenhorn

If you don't already have a dust/chip collector, it's time to get on the for sale sites and find a used one. Any planer makes LOTS of chips and you need to SUCK them out or you will not get much production done. I use a stand alone on my planers and got one as I throw in when I bought another machine. Gotta empty the bag a LOT.
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way. NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

Brad_bb

I started with that Dewalt planer.  The overload circuit breaker on my machine is a nuisance.  I plane about 5 faces and it trips.  Then 4 faces, then after a while 3, 2,1.  I've replace it 3 times. The more it trips, the shorter the time between trips.  I then spent the money to put a Byrd Shelix helical head in it and installed it myself.  Still trips.  Other than that the plane is fine, but the tripping makes me hate it.  And no I'm not trying to run a bunch of white oak through and take a bunch off.  I'm putting Ash and walnut through and taking 1/32 at a time, and i have the issues.  Last winter I got my new Grizzly 20 inch helical planer up and running.  I love that machine.  Power is king.  I did not have a jointer and tried using sleds with my planers.  They only worked somewhat.  You  get some flex and with a really warped board, you'll reduce the warp, but sleds were never perfect at getting that first flat face.  That is key though.  I was only doing that for my small projects.  Last winter though I had all my stacks of boards kiln dried and had another shop flatten them all via a 2 sided planer.  So now I have a  lot of lumber that is dry and flat.  I do still need the ability to flatten stuff myself though for the odd stuff I mess with-barnwood, funky pieces of wood off the mill that he won't put through his 2 sided planer.  A few months ago I picked up a used Grizzly 8"  jointer, but I'm still waiting for the the electrician to come and rig up an outlet for it.
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Tom K

The 735 is a fine low production planer, I've put a pile of wood through mine. It looks like you have the infeed & outfeed tables in kit, you really shouldn't need anything else unless you are running 10'+ material through it. As OGH said, get a dust collector for it, it will make a mess without. They are too heavy to pick up and move around much so mount it on a decent base and leave it. It can pull some power if worked hard so try to limit extension cord usage.

Magicman

When I need to make a "mound" of chips, I get help and move mine outside.

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My chip pile here grew to over 3' high and I used the tractor and back blade to move them.
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Machinebuilder

I will agree that the Dewalt is a good machine, When I replaced mine with a Grizzly with a spiral head it was a fair swap.
I think the Dwalt is a better built machine, but I like the carbide cutter better.

I would at least build a stand with wheels for it, I built mine with 2 wheels and "wheelbarrow" handles so I can move it easier.

I also built it so the out feed is even with my tablesaw. a longer support will help minimize snipe.

yes you make A LOT of chips very fast, IMHO a 2 stage dust collector is important.
Dave, Woodmizer LT15, Husqvarna 460 and Stihl 180, Bobcat 751, David Brown 770, New Holland TN60A

DDW_OR

I use a 55 gallon barrow as a chip collector
the setup is: planer, hose, 55 barrow, hose, shop vac
i cut two holes into the removable lid on the plastic barrow
i like the white barrows because i can see how much is in it.

if i was going to be doing a lot i would put several barrows in line

FYI i use the chip collector setup on the sawmill, firewood Processor, planer, tablesaw, and other equipment
"let the machines do the work"

Wlmedley

Thanks for everyone's input.Hopefully I'll get set up in a few days and get to try it out.
Bill Medley WM 126-14hp , Husky372xp ,MF1020 ,Homemade log arch,GMC2500,Oregon log splitter,Honda Pioneer 700,Kabota 1700

mudfarmer

Congrats! Mine has been a good machine. Do not try to take tooo big of a bite, sneak up on it, you will get the feel
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SwampDonkey

If you are inclined to in the future, once them straight blades get dull, you can replace them with a helical blade from places like these.

https://www.sheartak.com/spiral-cutterhead-for-dewalt-13inch-planer-dw-735?search=dewalt%20735

I have an installation video link in my 'Shop' thread in the 'General Woodworking' board for the sheartak blades.

Pretty sure there is an equivalent option in the USA, none of them are cheap.

Did your planer come with the stand? I think Homedepot had a deal of these planers, stand, tables and spare blades included. That's probably where you got yours. I gone one this spring, but have not run it yet. My pine trim all came predressed.

I used an old Trademaster planer for years on ash, that is real hard wood when dry, harder than maple in my opinion. Maple was easier to plane, I planed lots of that to. I never threw a breaker on that  cheapie planer. Little bites at a time in hardwood on wide stock.

Used to keep an old 45 gallon barrel for chips. Doesn't take long to fill one, even a small project. I've got a heavy Rubbermaid 45 gallon barrel now with a cyclone lid I have yet to test with the Rigid shop vac. Not sure yet if it is rigid enough, but can come up with some sort of skeleton/steel cage to keep it from collapsing the sides. Collapse is possible if the air flow is blocked.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

WV Sawmiller

   I save my planer chips to use as tinder when starting a fire in my big wood stove. Put a hand full between two parallel pieces of firewood with some kindling crossways on top of the firewood, stick a match to the planer chips and it goes right up with enough flame and residual heat to set off the kindling and ignite the firewood.

    There should be a market for them as fire starter. I think Doc uses them or maybe it is sawdust with paraffin wax to make firewood starters candles.
Howard Green
WM LT35HDG25(2015) , 2011 4WD F150 Ford Lariat PU, Kawasaki 650 ATV, Stihl 440 Chainsaw, homemade logging arch (w/custom built rear log dolly), JD 750 w/4' wide Bushhog brand FEL

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doc henderson

coarser stuff like from the planer, not the sander.  yes, a bit of recycled candle wax, over the shavings in a festive cupcake paper and a wick made from colorful yard dipped in wax.  start well and recycle the was and shavings.  make sure folks know they are fire starters and not a candle.  I had a friend nearly start her mantle on fire.  I had told her these are to start fires not a candle, but it smelled so good with all the leftover candle wax, that her brain over-rode what I told her.   smiley_thumbsdown :snowball: ffsmiley
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

doc henderson

All my friends and relatives send me the jars of expensive candles with a quarter inch of wax left in the bottom.  I get the candles left over from the luminary at Christmas.  I make about 250 when I get a batch rolling.   It fills about 4 boxes from 10 reems of paper.  I give them s gifts and use them each time I start a woodstove at camp, in the shop or house.  also, in the smoker.
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

SwampDonkey

Yeah, in the old shop I used to load the stove with some planer shavings and wood on top. She'd burn baby burn in that old stove. I could slide the top of it to the left and load'r up. Pull the draft plate open a little (primitive stove), open the damper on the pipe, strike a match and set it on them shavings. Whoosh we're in business.  ffsmiley

Between grandpa, dad and me, I bet we used that stove 60 years between us. Most of it's life was heating around the main doors in a potato shed.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Ianab

I've got an old DW733 (cheaper model). The 755 is the up market  version  ffsmiley  They make a LOT of wood shavings. 

I think the 735 has "disposable" blades that are supposed to be single use, but I've heard of folks honing them up with a diamond card and getting a couple more uses out of them.   
Weekend warrior, Peterson JP test pilot, Dolmar 7900 and Stihl MS310 saws and  the usual collection of power tools :)

SwampDonkey

There isn't a 755 model over here on their site, just 733 and 735.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Wlmedley

Took Machinebuilders advice and built a movable stand for my planer.I think this is sort of what he suggested.Will keep it in the garage and move it outside when planing.
Bill Medley WM 126-14hp , Husky372xp ,MF1020 ,Homemade log arch,GMC2500,Oregon log splitter,Honda Pioneer 700,Kabota 1700

Old Greenhorn

That should work nicely for your lunch box!
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way. NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

SwampDonkey

Didn't include the stand with rollers and outboard lift/roller to move it? Mine was included in the package.
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." James Randi

1 Thessalonians 5:21

2020 Polaris Ranger 570 to forward firewood, Husqvarna 555 XT Pro, Stihl FS560 clearing saw and continuously thinning my ground, on the side. Grow them trees. (((o)))

Machinebuilder

That's the stand like I mentioned, it looks good



I've done a couple improvements to get the outfeed to match my tablesaw better
Dave, Woodmizer LT15, Husqvarna 460 and Stihl 180, Bobcat 751, David Brown 770, New Holland TN60A

Wlmedley

Got to try my planer out a couple days ago and I really like it. I tried it on every different kind of wood I have and they all came out looking like store bought lumber.Used it outside and let chips hit the ground.I was especially impressed with my poplar lumber.About a 1/16" off each side was all it took to clean it up so shouldn't have any trouble getting 3/4" lumber out of 1" lumber even accounting for shrinkage after drying.Took advise of others and only took a little bit at a time and didn't have any trouble with breakers plus I used a extra heavy duty short extension cord. Thanks for all your advice.
Bill Medley WM 126-14hp , Husky372xp ,MF1020 ,Homemade log arch,GMC2500,Oregon log splitter,Honda Pioneer 700,Kabota 1700

aigheadish

Well, finally something I know a little about, on this forum, and I'm too late! Everyone else already covered it!

I can't afford but would like the helical head, maybe one day. I have found, on mine, I've run it some but I don't feel like a lot and I've got 2 little chips taken out of the blade. I haven't fixed it yet, but eventually will, maybe mine are just a bit more brittle than some blades? Maybe I hit something I didn't realize was there.

I could've almost cried when I first got mine running for the amount of sanding time it saves. Glue up jobs go better, kind of everything is nicer with a planer.

I plan to eventually attempt to build my planer into a bench so I have longer than the included infeed/outfeed tables.

I haven't had any breaker issues on mine, but I imagine I haven't put nearly as much wood through it as Brad. I don't have mine on an extension chord, I don't think. I've also got mine hooked up to the Harbor Freight dust collector. That will and does create some static that you can feel, it'll arc to your hand if you place your hand on the tubing coming out of the back of the planer, I need to address that sometime.

Congratulations on the new to(ol)(y)!

Also, that's a sweet cart, I can't tell, are the pieces planer smooth? You too @Machinebuilder!
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doc henderson

Bill, I would have errored on the side of saying it looks better than store bought, so feel free to be a little biased. 

aigheadish If you have sharp but nicked straight blades, you can shift one over just a 1/16th and get rid of the line from the notched edge.
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

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