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Title: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on June 12, 2018, 05:32:26 PM
Hi All, new to the forum today.  I'm looking to purchase an entry level mill preferably on a trailer to stay portable.  I been researching for a little while now and for the money, the Woodland Mills HM126 trekker is looking pretty good.  Yours thoughts on the Woodland Mills line of mills?

I'll be milling mostly fir and some hardwoods.

Thanks
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: btulloh on June 12, 2018, 05:45:35 PM
I've had the HM126 for almost three years now and it's been fine.  The company has been really good to deal with and the few small issues I've had were handled well and quickly.  I found it to be a good value.  

If you posted some info about what you will be doing and what sort of output you expect or need, you can get some better feedback.  This is an entry-level mill for sure, so it's not going to be appropriate for higher levels of production, etc.  

Good luck with your search and your soon-to-be sawdust addiction.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: ChugiakTinkerer on June 12, 2018, 08:40:52 PM
Also why don't you update your profile to let us know where in the world you're located.  Don't need GPS coordinates, but country, state, and county are helpful.

I'm a low volume hobbyist and I am pleased as punch with my HM130.  If I were milling to make a living I would need something with more capacity and power.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: SawyerTed on June 12, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
Welcome to the forum.  I don't have any specific knowledge regarding the Woodlands mills.

Some idea about your sawing goals would be helpful in allowing those experienced with that mill to give their perspective.  Entry level usually means more manual features and more physical labor in exchange for lower production than mills with hydraulics and relatively higher horsepower.  Picking a quality mill will allow you better resale should you choose to upgrade in the future.  That's not a judgement regarding the mill you are considering BTW.

Manual mills are best supported with equipment to load and turn logs.  While it's possible to do those things without a tractor/backhoe/skid steer, the machinery makes the job much easier.  
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: highlandsaw on June 12, 2018, 10:07:47 PM
I have had a HM126 for 3 or 4 years. I am very happy with it.

Loading logs does require some forethought. I have a couple of RR ties I can roll the logs on. Then I welded up some "bridges" I can put in place to roll the logs onto the deck.

Woodland has been very responsive the couple times I have called them for information.

It is a excellent entry level sawmill.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on June 12, 2018, 10:25:23 PM
Thanks for the input so far.
I'm in south eastern New Hampshire but my wood lot is just north of the White Mountains, just over 2 hours from home. I'm looking to mill lumber for a cabin, possibly a timber frame, as well as lumber to rebuild my sugar shack. Not looking to make this a business, just satisfy my lumber needs with my own trees.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Darrel on June 13, 2018, 12:19:35 AM
Welcome to the Foreatry forum Wayne, and good luck with your search. I've only heard good about Woodland Mills. 
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: thecfarm on June 13, 2018, 05:21:05 AM
Wayne,welcome to the forum.
Sounds like you have a plan.
You will need at least one cantdog or a peavey from Logrite,sponsor on the left. Northern guys,like us, like peaveys,the one with the point to move-roll logs.
Just missed the woods expo in VT. But next year it will be in Bangor ME. A nice place to see sawmills,skidders, wood splitters and bunches of more equipment to do with wood.
Thomas Bandsaw Mills out of Brooks ME might be worth looking into.
How are you going to get the logs to the mill?
I saw and I build. It's slow,I'm a one man show here.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: RichTired on June 13, 2018, 09:12:16 AM
Welcome to the forum. I am new here also and there is a wealth of information available.
I have a Wood-Mizer LT15GO that I am very pleased with, as I am just a hobbist, for now.
Very simple to setup and use, and well built in the USA.
Good luck with your selection and future sawing experience.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on June 13, 2018, 10:06:03 AM
I built a skidder attachment for my ATV that works pretty good for hauling logs. Works OK,  but doesn't keep them totally off the ground, so I would have some dirt to contend with.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: sealark37 on June 13, 2018, 10:24:55 AM
The biggest part of sawing your own logs into lumber is getting the logs from the stump to the mill, then moving the resulting lumber to a suitable storage spot and drying it.  The mill you are looking at will do it's part.  You will have to do the rest.  Good Luck, and Regards, Clark
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: kelLOGg on June 13, 2018, 12:57:00 PM
So true, Seal... someone on the FF said that sawmilling is basically material handling with a sawmill in the middle. That's been my experience.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: hunterbuild on June 13, 2018, 01:16:22 PM
I've been using a Harbor Freight band saw for several years now. I love it. Got it for about $1700 delivered to my house. I think you can get one for around $2000 now. I've had to do some mods on it. Just put on a bigger motor, 13 hp with electric start. I have a skid steer from my building days that make working logs so much easier. I can't imagine saw milling without something to handle logs.      
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: jbjbuild on June 13, 2018, 03:27:01 PM
I own the Woodland Mills HM126 and I'm very happy with it. They have a YouTube channel with lots of videos that might help you with your desision. I have been extremely happy with their customer service. For the price I think its hard to beat unless your needing something bigger.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: kelLOGg on June 14, 2018, 06:58:35 AM
I've had my MP32 for 16 years and the only maintenance I couldn't do was re-crown the bandwheels. It has been trouble-free and is a very rugged mill. I just sawed a 32" dia RO 11' long. It was too big to conveniently saw but I (and the mill) did it with no ill effects. Give Cook a look.
Bob 
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on June 14, 2018, 12:48:46 PM
Thanks all. I've looked around and have seen most of the ones suggested, but costs seem to be much higher and out of my range. Some others not mentioned do not have trailer models.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Skipper11A on June 14, 2018, 02:14:28 PM
Wayne, have you looked at the EZ Boardwalk, JR?  It's a 30" mill and with trailer package it costs  $4,700 which is less than the HM126 Trekker.  And the EZ Boardwalk is made in the USA.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: ksmitchell on June 14, 2018, 02:51:03 PM
I would also suggest the EZ Boardwalk Jr. as well or the Sequoia Mills SM-130.
(http://www.sequoiamills.com/)
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on August 06, 2018, 05:11:54 PM
Anyone familiar with the Mister Sawmill line of mills? Found them today, never heard of them.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: SawyerTed on August 06, 2018, 08:10:04 PM
I looked st their website.  For the price you might look at a more 'mainstream' brand.  Support is important in my estimation.  

I don't know anything about Mister Sawmill brand but it might be important to know you've got support for the long run. 
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 07, 2018, 09:17:05 AM
Go look at a Thomas bandmill
You won't be disappointed 
E-z boardwalk also 
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 07, 2018, 09:37:41 AM
I'm in Springfield NH 
You are welcome to come take a look at and run my mill
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on August 07, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
Thanks for the invite Bruno. I may take you up on it. The only mill I've ever used was a Belsaw circular back in the 80's when I was a teenager. Not sure of the model, powered by a handcrank started engine with a flat belt.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: fishfighter on August 08, 2018, 05:46:32 AM
Quote from: Wayne_Stevens on June 12, 2018, 10:25:23 PM
Thanks for the input so far.
I'm in south eastern New Hampshire but my wood lot is just north of the White Mountains, just over 2 hours from home. I'm looking to mill lumber for a cabin, possibly a timber frame, as well as lumber to rebuild my sugar shack. Not looking to make this a business, just satisfy my lumber needs with my own trees.


Reason I bought my 126.  Do buy extra track.

http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=82663.0 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=82663.0)

Oh a side note. Loading logs, I use a tractor with home made hay forks or my backhoe.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Frontier_Paul on August 08, 2018, 01:20:29 PM
Wayne I to went through the process of trying to figure out what I needed and what the wallet would afford. I went with the Frontier OS27 which is designed by Norwood but build over seas. I'm in the south and mostly cut pines and oaks. The 13hp B&S engine does well with the thin 144" blade. I got mine with extra track and a 5 pack of blades delivered to the door for 4k total. I cut my trees for my own projects only not to make money. I have enjoyed it I am happy with the machine and the support I get from Norwood. This is all just my 2-cents, good luck cant wait to see what you get.

Paul
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on August 08, 2018, 08:36:08 PM
Thanks for the information Paul. Is that cost with a trailer package? I don't want to leave it at the woodlot if I'm not there.  There is a Hud-son dealer only a few minutes away from the woodlot, but they don't have a small trailer model. Leaning towards a Thomas or Woodland Mills trailer model. Thomas is only 3 hours from home.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Frontier_Paul on August 09, 2018, 11:49:50 AM
No sir no trailer included in that price. I feel sure any of those mills will suit your needs. Once you been doing it for a while you will get the bug to upgrade just as have.
 good luck!!!
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on August 16, 2018, 05:39:01 PM
Didn't realize WM are made in China, I thought Canada.  Looking at other domestic brands along with the Thomas. Anyone familiar with Turner?
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Magicman on August 16, 2018, 06:15:48 PM
Just to clarify that your WM = Woodland Mills, not Wood-Mizer.  ;D 

Wood-Mizer does have an entry level LT10 sawmill. 
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on August 16, 2018, 06:58:25 PM
Yes, Woodland Mills.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Bruno of NH on August 16, 2018, 07:40:36 PM
Turner makes a nice mill
But doesn't use flanges roller guides. 
If he did I think they would be much better.
I know someone who has his top of the line hydraulic mill.
Put cooks roller guides on cuts much much better.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: Wayne_Stevens on October 07, 2018, 04:13:23 PM
Visited the Thomas booth today at the Fryeburg Fair and looked at their mills. They are well built mills, relatively local to me, and now are standard with siding option. Looks good for the $$.
Title: Re: Entry level band sawmil
Post by: thecfarm on October 07, 2018, 07:30:58 PM
@Wayne_Stevens (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=40467),is that the one that the head is offset by a lever? If it is,I saw it at the Bangor,ME show. Cut the cant and tilt the head. No need to remove the cant and put a jig on and saw siding.
I have one and like it. I have the movable bunk,can cut a piece of stove wood lenght wood by just moving the bunks.
Yes,they are built. I don't move mine,but had it for many years and only levered it once to set it up. I have flipped some big ones on the bunks.