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Re: Log identification
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2021, 12:48:33 PM »
All the sassafras I have cut had an orange inner bark.

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Re: Log identification
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2021, 03:25:28 PM »
One persons orange is another persons rusty reddish brown?  :D
The sassafras log bed I built I sanded the outer bark to remove the flaky stuff- Neat piece actually. Not so neat is all the trees down on my woods roads, many today were smaller sassafras. Yesterday was a maple ~ 20-22" and next trip is some young poplars around 12". Maybe sleepy Joe will send me an extra check for lost timber?  ;D
I do wish he'd peel this log and get this figured out. 
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2021, 04:02:17 PM »
Pics of the slabs

 

 

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Re: Log identification
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2021, 04:55:52 PM »
Based on smell Iím thinking itís an elm

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Re: Log identification
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2021, 05:00:26 PM »
The simple to be sure is to look at then end grain to see if the latewood pores are arranged in wavy bands.  Here are some end grain pics with the wavy bands.

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Re: Log identification
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2021, 07:42:51 PM »
Anyone else see a resemblense to Catalpa ? Not saying it is.

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Re: Log identification
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2021, 07:49:28 PM »
Yes I do see a resemblance to Catalpa but I saw very little of it.  Actually I do not recall ever sawing it but once.
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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2021, 06:42:45 AM »
A simple un-scientific pocketknife test will check for catalpa vs most any other look alike candidate. I've sawed twice as much catalpa as magicman :D 
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2021, 07:53:09 PM »
I was finally able to find a moment among all the milling, stacking, and maple syrup boiling to inspect the end grain and it looks to be elm based on the wavy patterns detailed in a link above. Also the weather warmed a bit and the smell of the wood definitely had that elm flair to it. Not sassafras. Was really hoping for some sas!

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« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2021, 05:41:50 AM »
Yesterday while clearing our woods roads of 100 year record ice, snow & rain tree falls, I cut into a log which had lost it bark and began to rot from the outside. It may have been 10" original size where I whacked it and the first thought after cutting through and seeing the hard core heartwood was sassafras- which one sniff proved to be true. i think I'll pull it with the poplar logs lying next to it and saw something thick out of it to compliment the 4/4 sassafras I cut couple years back. 
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2021, 12:37:52 AM »
What tree is this? The leaves on the ground were oak, but the 5 trees around it were gum. 



 

 

 

 

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Re: Log identification
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2021, 08:23:47 AM »
Certainly sweetgum.  Note the dark heart.
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2021, 08:35:32 AM »
@Damncc is their any chance for you to go & get a picture of it sawn off much closer and in the root flare. All the sweet gum that ďIíveĒ ever seen has an aallmmost starfish shape to it that close. 

Now, that being said, Iím not arguing about WDHís assessment to it being sweetgum, because I donít know trees much at all! And Iím not trying to step on ANYONEís toes. Just going with the TINY bit that Iíve been exposed to.
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2021, 08:41:48 AM »
The buds will be fairly large and decidedly imbricate (overlapping scales).  The twigs may or may not have wings. 

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« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2021, 08:48:27 AM »
Iíve got a good hold on everything leaves and gumballs. My weak spot is the bark ID. Thatís why Iíd not be able to select cut when the leaves arenít there.
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2021, 06:48:44 PM »
Bark is the very first thing that I look at when IDing a tree.  Down here in the Deep South with so many species, I find the bark to be very distinctive on most species. 
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2021, 07:38:45 PM »
Iíll get another pic when I go back to pick up more logs. I think it is star shaped, I can see some star shape in the pic. The ground was littered with oak leaves, thats why I was wondering. Iím can do fairly well with leaves to identify, but bark only seems elusive 

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« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2021, 09:41:17 AM »
Bark is the very first thing that I look at when IDing a tree.  Down here in the Deep South with so many species, I find the bark to be very distinctive on most species.
Buying or sorting logs bark is pretty much all you have to make a call especially if you are in the loader cab. Look at enough and you learn the subtle differences; just like a farmer knows all his cows without looking at an ear tag number.   Cruising/marking timber goes a lot smoother when the leaves are off.

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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2021, 09:41:44 AM »
Yes, when you cruise a lot of timber, you really learn the bark. 
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Re: Log identification
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2021, 11:16:03 PM »
Catalpa is so lightweight, you would know right away. It weighs less than anything I've ever cut, even basswood. I only cut one sassafras, it had basically no sapwood. I'd still go with elm.


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