Take a nut leave a nut !!!

[Dodgy Loner]

Well, I hope mine live long enough to make sawlogs ;D ;D ;D

[SwampDonkey]

The biggest curse with butternut is limb breakage. They grow long laterals in more open conditions. Heavy wind alone can weaken the limbs over time and all the sudden you have 1/4 of the trunk missing.  :

[Lanier_Lurker]

That sounds great.  I look forward to getting some butternut.

I won't have to worry about them being open grown here at my place.  They will have to fight their way up into a canopy of 100ft yellow poplars, white oaks, and northern red oaks.  I hope it is not too shaded for them.

[WDH]

If I remember right, butternut is shade intolerant.  So, the tree will need a little hole in the canopy to shoot for.

[Banjo picker]

Marcel, only if you obtain the seed from neighboring states like Northern NY, Northern PA and northern Michigan and southeastern Ontario. Seed from the southern states and southern half of those bordering the lakes would not do to well. Goes for most hickories.

Swampdonkey, what about the flip side, will Marcel's horsechesnuts be able to survive in ne Miss.?  Tim

[SwampDonkey]

Your butternut will have a struggle if the canopy is closed in tight. It is more tolerant than aspen though. I've seen them growing here on the ridge with sugar maple, ash, yellow birch, basswood. They grow real nice logs mixed in hardwood, out in the pasture you get wide spreading limbs. In my thinnings I find them growing in with maple and ash. They do real well in aspen stands to, but a bit limbyer. That big terminal bud can pack a lot of growth for next year. ;D

[SwampDonkey]

Banjo picker:

Hard to say, I would be hopeful. It's alot easier to move to warm areas than it is to move to frigid cold. But winter temperatures is not the only factor. Scorching summer heat and drought may be a factor to as well as length of day. Doesn't hurt to try. ;D

[Lanier_Lurker]

I have some spots out front where the canopy is not too tight.  I think I can find a place they will tolerate.

I will probably raise them in 30in deep TreePots for the first couple of years.

Hey Dodgy, you want any maple leaf viburnum seed?

[Dodgy Loner]

Sure, why not?  I've always had better luck with nuts than with smaller seeds - they just have more energy to get themselves established, so they're not as finicky about growing conditions - but I've got a perfect spot for some mapleleaf viburnums!  We'll see how it goes

[Banjo picker]

Banjo picker:

. Scorching summer heat and drought may be a factor to as well as length of day. Doesn't hurt to try. ;D

I can't do anything about the heat, but I plan on planting a few in areas where  water wont be such a problem,  I live  about 1/3 of a mile from the highest point in the state (Woodal Mt...806 feet) I plan on planting some on my highest point and some down in the creek bottom, and a few in between....hopefully some will make it....Tim

[isawlogs]

Tim . I will have those out today .... I am packing them as I write.

  So if they dont take for some reason , we can try again next fall .      I find rewarding to plant trees and watch them grow . Planted quite a bit of pine at my dads and we are seeing them all over the farm . I would like to establish a nut grove here . There are very little nut trees here other then the dying butterbut , it would will be a form of food plot for the deer and turkeys and me  ;D , I know it will takes some time before the restaurant opens for um . I do hav some beech but they had no nuts this year ...  :-\ Those are good eating if ya can get at them before the bears , deer and turkeys ..

[Banjo picker]

marcel & dodgy, I put the nuts in the mail just now...you will find a few pieces of flint in there with them, as i knew the post office would ask what was in there..flint.... 8) 8) 8), and so there is.... ;D  Marcel  you got the last ones of the shags as the critters have moved in .  I already had dodgy's boxed up and went back this morining...had to look hard to get some then about half were floaters....Hope you get enough...let us know if those hickorys make it up there....Tim

[Dodgy Loner]

Tim, your nuts are in the mail as well.  Maybe I can make an arrowhead out of the flint you're sending, and in a few years I'll make a hickory bow from the hickory nuts you're sending ;D ;D ;D

[WDH]

Maybe I can make an arrowhead out of the flint you're sending, and in a few years I'll make a hickory bow from the hickory nuts you're sending ;D ;D ;D

Dodgy, it is nice to see a long term perspective ;D.

[SwampDonkey]

I'm worried he might not fair too well.  ;D :D

[Banjo picker]

Maybe I can make an arrowhead out of the flint you're sending, and in a few years I'll make a hickory bow from the hickory nuts you're sending ;D ;D ;D

It will have to be a bird point, they were pretty small pieces.,, but they did ask, about yours and Marcels....I didn't lie there's flint in there....wraped up in a piece of news paper....Tim

[isawlogs]

 I got all the boxes out to mail yesterday .. I went monday , but the post office was closed from 12:30 to 1:30 ... I got there at 12:35  :    I checked my watch and got there during business hours the next day  :P
  She must of asked me (post master) a half a dozen time if all I was sending was nuts ... yep .. She sure did not look to impressed .  :-\  :D

[Robert Long]

Bonjeni isawlogs

I got your package today!   thanks for the nuts and I will plant them ASAP.

Do not apologize for your 'Anglais'  I wish I could communicate in French like you do in English :

Robert

[Lanier_Lurker]

Thanks for the butternuts, Dodgy!!

I went ahead and threw them in a bucket of water on Friday.  Of the 43, 38 sank to the bottom.  That is pretty encouraging.  I left them in there for a few hours.

I'll get them potted into something this week.

[Dodgy Loner]

Good to hear!  Maybe with our efforts butternut won't be such an uncommon tree around here 50 years from now ;)

I put the shumard acorns you gave me in the fridge for now.  The seedlings will be in the ground this week. 

[WDH]

We finally got enough rain to provide enough ground moisture to plant the northern red oak, shumard oak, and the hickories that you gave me.

We are doing a good thing for the distribution of species.  Maybe we need to send Swamp Donkey a Scarlet Oak ;D.

[Banjo picker]

I got all the boxes out to mail yesterday ..

I got mine this morning...now I got to figure how to hedge my bets on getting the most to sprout.......Dogys butternuts were here when we go back ( been to horse camp at Natchiz Trace St Pk. in Tenn....)  picked up a couple lbs. of white oak acorns that were laying everywhere...hitting the camper and truck every time the wind would blow....of those on the ground about half already had started to sprout....planted all but a few this moning....took a iron worker line up bar poked a hole and hoped for the best, with them....going to start the chestnuts and the butternuts in my raised bed garden as I don't plant much else in it anyway....any info would be helpful from any that has been sucessful in the past with either...thanks for the nuts guys, Tim

[SwampDonkey]

Well butternut I know are easy as planting corn to grow. Some will take up to 2 years to sprout though. But, they sprout up on the lawn like weeds. Of course I have to mow around them.   


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[Robert Long]

isawlogs

I got your parcel and the chestnuts are planted, now, how do you keep the squirrels from digging them up :D

Robert

[SwampDonkey]

and skunks



....and coons


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:D :D :D