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General Forestry => Sawmills and Milling => Topic started by: Conard on August 01, 2018, 10:08:51 PM

Title: Slabbing burnt pine trees
Post by: Conard on August 01, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
Question ???  Beetle killed trees vs burnt trees.  Do burnt forest pine trees produce the same kind of coloring that a beetle killed tree does?  I commented on someones milled timer as if it was beetle kill and he replied nope burnt trees produce the same coloring even better.  Is there some truth to this?
Title: Re: Slabbing burnt pine trees
Post by: elite64a on August 10, 2018, 12:50:31 PM
I would agree the burnt pine would probably have more color than the beetle kill.  I am sure the intense heat change some properties of the tree and the pitch inside it.  Think about it like this when lightning strike a pine tree in the summer time huge chunks of it become FATWOOD or fat lighter as some of us call it. Always smells great, will burn under almost any condition, will never rot, and produce some amazing color.  The downside I see is that hardened pitch will most likely dull your blades or chains really fast.
Title: Re: Slabbing burnt pine trees
Post by: BaldBob on August 10, 2018, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: Conard on August 01, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
Question ???  Beetle killed trees vs burnt trees.  Do burnt forest pine trees produce the same kind of coloring that a beetle killed tree does?  I commented on someones milled timer as if it was beetle kill and he replied nope burnt trees produce the same coloring even better.  Is there some truth to this?
The Blue stain found on beetle killed pine is caused by a fungus that is spread by the bark beetles.  In fact it is usually this fungus that actually kills the trees rather than the action of the beetles themselves. Fire killed or fire weakened  trees usually attract secondary beetles which will also introduce the stain causing fungus into the trees.
Title: Re: Slabbing burnt pine trees
Post by: No_Dude on August 11, 2018, 06:24:34 PM
I can tell you for a fact that fatwood is plain evil on cutting instruments. It's sticky when you try to cut it, and also harder. I personally avoid fatwood like the plague unless I have a specific use for it. 
Title: Re: Slabbing burnt pine trees
Post by: bags on August 12, 2018, 07:41:00 AM
It mostly depends on how much the tree was cooked--- rare, medium or well done. Rare to medium timbers make good lumber--- well done, and its junk.

(Pic is medium cooked fire kill ponderosa pine)


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22142/IMG_0298~0.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1479218089)
Title: Re: Slabbing burnt pine trees
Post by: Smithkp on August 13, 2018, 12:48:17 PM
That board would look good just hanging on the wall. Even better with an epoxy finish.