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« Reply #12980 on: June 07, 2023, 06:55:06 AM »



I don't see any heartwood in that ash. Unless the camera is playing tricks on me.
You are right. After reading your post I went out and checked the logs. There is no heartwood in any of the three logs.
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« Reply #12981 on: June 07, 2023, 07:33:18 AM »
It's interesting to see how market demand for certain "looks" in wood products changes. For a period of time, natural grade hardwood veneer in ash was the rage (mix of heart and sap in the same panel). Currently, overall demand for ash is waned somewhat, but the demand now is primarily for sap grades - no heartwood. Since plywood and solid lumber are generally used for the same products (e.g. cabinets), manufacturers want to match the plywood look to that of solid lumber, so I'm guessing the sawlog market demand for ash is similar. Ash has never been a huge volume compared to the big three - birch, oak, and maple, but has tailed off noticeably in recent years. I thought there might be more demand as the supply of logs grows less with the emerald ash borer.
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« Reply #12982 on: June 07, 2023, 08:58:18 AM »
So what causes the no heartwood? The ash I have been cutting has big hearts, grinch after his heart grew 3 sizes that day hearts. There is no heart size restriction on grades from my buyer though like there is with maple

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« Reply #12983 on: June 07, 2023, 09:50:15 AM »
A forester can better answer the question of heart size. I'm guessing climate and/or soil would impact that. Locally here in Vermont we'll normally have at least 1/2 heart. The best veneer grade ash has less than 1/3 heart.
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« Reply #12984 on: June 08, 2023, 07:16:50 AM »
I find this question of heart size very interesting. I'm guessing it's the soil that makes the difference and maybe the growth rate of the tree. The tree with no heart was from a grown up pasture. Now, on the opposite end of the farm, maybe half a mile away, there are big ash with big hearts. Anyway, I'll be cutting more ash from that grown up pasture and I'll be looking to see the heart size.
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« Reply #12985 on: June 08, 2023, 04:28:57 PM »
Extreme heart variability occurs in other "white woods" too like Maple and Hickory. Often times here they will come off the stump with a small heart and it will increase in % going up the tree. I don't know the cause but sure know the "cost" at sale time. 

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« Reply #12986 on: June 08, 2023, 07:37:18 PM »



Example of the smallest heart size sugar maple I've cut on my land, heart always tends to be bigger. Cut this tree last winter, and got a nice 11' butt log that made white, clear, 1x6's. 
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« Reply #12987 on: June 09, 2023, 06:58:47 AM »
 Often times here they will come off the stump with a small heart and it will increase in % going up the tree. 
Yes stavebuyer, yesterday I cut an ash that had no heart at the stump but at the other end of the first log there was a small heart.
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« Reply #12988 on: June 10, 2023, 03:56:27 PM »
I only had 1wk, fields done and seeded, have a bigger one up in the back to do. 


 It ain't fancy but it works. Probably had a 12/71 in it when it started life, small cam cummins now. 


 Was home 2 days and the phone rang, told them the insanity is coming to an end and cut wood when I get back. 4 new people on this boat with me, fresh out of the shipyard, like a Chinese fire drill, when the engineer is the navigator around NY harbor you've got problems. 😆 


 

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« Reply #12989 on: June 15, 2023, 07:04:00 PM »
From one to the next. Mill ground. Mostly oak. Getting a proper hair cut. If I just had a good 15 ton forwarder weíd be dangerous! Well maybe not so dangerous😂


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« Reply #12990 on: June 20, 2023, 12:36:51 AM »
No pictures but I had a visitor for most of the afternoon. Mike belben is alive and well. Very intelligent and good down to earth fella he is.

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« Reply #12991 on: June 20, 2023, 05:18:25 AM »
@so il logger

If ya donít mind mention to him to go home through southern Ohio. 

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« Reply #12992 on: June 20, 2023, 06:31:27 PM »
 

 

 

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« Reply #12993 on: June 21, 2023, 06:20:12 AM »
No pictures but I had a visitor for most of the afternoon. Mike belben is alive and well. Very intelligent and good down to earth fella he is.
I remember earlier in this thread, you and Mike discussing your Slick-stumping technique. He seemed to have mastered it, and many of us learned a few things....
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« Reply #12994 on: June 21, 2023, 08:44:44 AM »
I follow mike on the utube. He is certified hoarder. Gets up to some pretty fun stuff.
I miss his contributions here. Very outside the box thinker

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« Reply #12995 on: June 21, 2023, 11:05:09 AM »
What is mikes you tube channels name?
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« Reply #12996 on: June 21, 2023, 11:29:05 AM »
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« Reply #12997 on: June 21, 2023, 06:25:15 PM »
😂 I thought you were just calling him a hoarderÖnot that his you tube channel was called  that lol

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« Reply #12998 on: June 21, 2023, 06:46:17 PM »
If heís reading this he should change it lol i kept getting A&E hoarding shows! But Iím just a logger trying to search info on something I still donít understand 😂 

Iím still moving wood. But itís tight out there. 

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« Reply #12999 on: June 21, 2023, 06:48:34 PM »

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