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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: CTwoodsman on March 27, 2018, 09:20:57 AM

Title: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 27, 2018, 09:20:57 AM
Hi all. Great forum.

I was looking for help in identifying  a piece of wood. I'm sure it will be simple for some but I'm still learning. Thanks
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Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on March 27, 2018, 09:58:50 AM
Looks like Virginia pine at first glance.
but that's a little north for it.
what do the needles look like?

Jon
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: isawlogs on March 27, 2018, 10:05:23 AM
 It looks like scotch pine or red pine to me.
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 27, 2018, 11:51:21 AM
Never saw any needles, it was dropped off in log form

If it's pine, that's enough info for me. Embarrassed to admit that I was trying to find maple. I know I have some in my pile. Thanks for the help
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: Ianab on March 27, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
Should be able to ID "pine" by it's smell, pretty distinctive, or at least completely different to any hardwood I've even smelt. 
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: isawlogs on March 28, 2018, 10:46:47 PM
Can you get a pic of the end grain???
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 29, 2018, 12:10:37 AM
Here you go

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Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 29, 2018, 08:52:42 AM
Bark looks like our local black cherry bark to me. The ends should darken up as they oxidize. Split off a slab, should go pinkish in away from the sapwood. Any sign of black gum or jelly like gum in the bark? Sometimes they get burl growths from black knot disease.
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: DPatton on March 29, 2018, 09:26:29 AM
I'm no seasoned pro at identifying wood species from the bark so take my input with a grain of salt. 
   When I look at that last end grain photo I see that thin long strip of bark peeling back at the bottom of the pic I think Maple. When I look at the thickness of the bark layer and way that bark is starting to separate from the inner wood I also think Maple.
   Just my two cents worth (probably worth less than that).
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 29, 2018, 11:03:21 AM
Certainly red maple bark can be similar, but not sugar maple. I find sugar maple bark has many layers stacked to make the furrowed bark and red maple is more of a thin fleck where you can often see rings in it. But so doesn't black cherry.

cherry

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Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 29, 2018, 11:42:15 AM
between the bark and wood, there was that very thin layer of brown, stingy material that I sometimes find when splitting wood but not on all types.





Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 29, 2018, 03:17:47 PM
This is what the wood actually looks look.

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Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 29, 2018, 03:58:18 PM
Is there any sort of pink hue? If not, it is probably red maple.
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 29, 2018, 04:11:42 PM
I would say no to the pink hue. Why, what would you think it was if there was?

I really appreciate the help, everyone. 
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 29, 2018, 04:36:23 PM
Quote from: CTwoodsman on March 29, 2018, 04:11:42 PM
I would say no to the pink hue. Why, what would you think it was if there was?

I really appreciate the help, everyone.
Cherry.

Some pictures are hard to tell anything, they are over exposed and white washed. ;D
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: DPatton on March 29, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
CT, 

Can you get us a better picture? I'm with SD those pics are not the best. Are those sanded smooth pieces of that same piece of wood?
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: WDH on March 29, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
It is maple, most likely silver maple.
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 30, 2018, 03:33:22 AM
I would think CT would have lots of red maple to. Probably grows with the sugar maple as well like it does here on some sites. Red maple is not restricted to the low lands. It's more of a generalist, not much of a site indicator. I'd never see a silver maple on a ridge top in these parts, just river bottoms and islands. ;D
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: WDH on March 30, 2018, 07:10:06 AM
Could be red maple or silver maple.  The bark looks more like silver maple, but it could be either. 
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 30, 2018, 07:55:36 AM
Some red maple bark on different sized trees (or various ages) at the bottom in this link.

Red Maple (Acer rubrum var. rubrum) (http://www.carolinanature.com/trees/acru.html)
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: isawlogs on March 30, 2018, 09:22:06 AM
That is maple, wether it be red or silver , still maple !! :P
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on March 30, 2018, 09:28:44 AM
Not much difference when it's used for firewood or lumber really. ;D
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: CTwoodsman on March 30, 2018, 12:49:28 PM
I made a cutting board out of it so just knowing it's maple is good enough for me. 

Went for a hike yesterday and couldn't help but try to identify the trees by their bark using tools I've learned from this site

Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: isawlogs on March 30, 2018, 07:00:43 PM
 Very easy to be mislead by bark alone ;)   :P
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: WDH on March 31, 2018, 05:09:06 PM
Goes from smooth to scaly platy.  
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: SwampDonkey on April 01, 2018, 05:02:50 AM
I find the local silver maple bark comes off in really long scaly strips, could be 2 feet long. Older trees are quite messy on the lawn from shedding bark. Red maple short strips or flecks.
Title: Re: Need help identifying wood by bark
Post by: bitternut on April 01, 2018, 10:37:00 PM
I see that several seem to think that tree would likely be silver maple. I don't don't have any silver maple in my woods but I do have some black birch. I think it might be black birch. Put a hunk of it in the wood stove with a hunk of know silver maple and you will soon have your answer. Looks different than my cherry and red maple too. Some twigs or leaves would be a big help for sure.