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Redmax GZ5000
« on: October 22, 2021, 12:33:50 PM »
Same as...the Jonsered 2252? Husky...???
There's a listing on ebay for this saw NIB for $380, power head only I believe. Not sure if this saw is still available at a dealer anymore or is current. 

What's the experts' opinions: Good price? Good saw?

I've got plenty of 50cc saws, but there is a little part of me that thinks it would be nice to have a brand new red saw before they are gone for good.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2021, 01:47:47 PM »
I've heard good and bad about Redmax....mostly negative. They are not the saws Jonsered were except for the consumer saws that Husky & Jonsered put out before Jonsered became Redmax.

Correct me if I'm wrong...but aren't they mostly clam-shell design? Are you OK with that?

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2021, 03:47:49 PM »
I've got nothing against a clamshell...have several in the stable that I was able to pick up pretty cheaply. But if I buy new, I'd go for a pro grade design. I was thinking the GZ5000 might be similar in design to the GZ7100 (2171/72) or the GZ9000 (2188).

Earlier this year, the local box store had a cache of 2245's and 2250's that tempted me, just to have one of the last Jred branded saws.  But I decided against it not wanting to spend the money on a homeowner saw.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2021, 04:00:23 PM »
They had an excellent reputation never had the marketing in North America which is unfortunate. The GZ5000 appears to have the vertically split crankcase and separate cylinder, it was touted as a pro saw.
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2021, 05:24:52 PM »
I believe the gz 5000 is the jred 2252. If so, it is a split mag case just like the 2172, but also has carb control, auto tune in husky language.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2021, 09:02:54 PM »
I appreciate the input.  Does anyone have a reference if $380 is a good price for a new saw of this type?  It "seems" to me it's not a bad price...but I also haven't been in to a dealer to see what a new saw goes for nowadays.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2021, 09:14:40 PM »
Looks good to me. Echo's "pro" 50cc saw sells for $470. You're getting a bar at that price, but echo tends to be cheaper than the big two.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2021, 06:46:51 AM »
Not a bad price at all Jetter. The current Husky 545 is roighly $200 more than that.

Gonna leave the RM decals on there, or switch to Jonsered decals? :)
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2021, 09:04:05 AM »
Go for it 👍
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2021, 10:09:50 AM »
The only new gz5000 I have seen was $520 I believe. If I was in the market for a 50cc saw, I would consider 380 a good deal. 

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2021, 03:38:52 PM »
The best price I found from an on-line search was $499.  Whether saws were actually available for that price is another matter.

Hmmm...hadn't really thought about swapping decals.  That would be just as legit as if it were an actual 2252, other than (potentially) the date of manufacture.  @Spike60 are decals readily available?  And are they easily applied such that they would last without pealing up and falling off after cycling between 20 below to 80 above year after year?

The same seller has a GZ9000 for $900.

Oh, I should ask: I'm not familiar with autotune other than running one tank of fuel through a friend's 2258.  Anything I should be aware of in terms of operation or maintenance?

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2021, 04:13:22 PM »
Decals are still available, and easy to apply. All the factory did was create red max decals to stick on a Jonsered; you're just returning the saw to it's original state.  :)  

Don't worry about the auto-tune; just run her. 

The dealer price in my 2021 red max program is $380, so certainly not bad there. (The MAP price is $539.)
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2021, 07:41:38 PM »
I feel like enabling is alive and well right now!  I walked myself up to the edge of the cliff, and you guys are more than willing to shove me over the edge. Thanks guys...I think.  Now on to a couple more questions. 

Is the autotune picky about the fuel mix? I like to run a hair rich at 40:1 on everything.  If autotune balks at that, I'd hate to need to keep two separate mixes on hand.  Hey @weimedog do you run 32:1 in your autotune saws?

Purely hypothetical, cuz no MN woodcutter needs an 80+cc saw, but how does that $900 price tag on the GZ9000 compare to a new 372 or what a 2172 would have gone for?  You know, asking for a friend...

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2021, 12:38:03 AM »
I feel like enabling is alive and well right now!  I walked myself up to the edge of the cliff, and you guys are more than willing to shove me over the edge. Thanks guys...I think.  Now on to a couple more questions.

Is the autotune picky about the fuel mix? I like to run a hair rich at 40:1 on everything.  If autotune balks at that, I'd hate to need to keep two separate mixes on hand.  Hey @weimedog do you run 32:1 in your autotune saws?

Purely hypothetical, cuz no MN woodcutter needs an 80+cc saw, but how does that $900 price tag on the GZ9000 compare to a new 372 or what a 2172 would have gone for?  You know, asking for a friend...
The last time that I heard, @Spike60 preferred 40:1 and @weimedog preferred 32:1 & no problems with the auto tune for either.
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2021, 07:24:28 AM »
Walt and I do run those mix ratios in the AT saws with no problems at all.

$900 for that GZ9000 isn't as good a deal as the 2152. I sell the comparable 390 for $1050. $875 for a 372 and $900 for the 572. So, $900 isn't much of a deal.

The upcoming 592 might end up being an exception, but I've never been into "new" big saws, and I own the store. The need for more than 70cc doesn't arise that often, and I like my Jonsered 900's and 288's for that. Few other classics; XL925, ProMac850. All were fun projects. A big saw in the fleet does come in handy when you do need it. And the project route is a great way for anyone to own one without having to spend $1000.
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2021, 07:36:53 AM »
Bob, I just got the information from one of Walts videos, and I knew that AT would handle the different mixes without guff (but you have to follow the proper procedure for the saws to properly “tune” for it) ;D
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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2021, 01:45:53 PM »
Well...I made the purchase.  We'll see what shows up at my door.  I'll keep you posted.  If this one checks out, I'd like to buy a second one for my father-in-law...so don't go and buy out this guy's inventory just yet ;D

I would have trouble justifying the GZ9000 anyway.  I haven't even put a tank through my 2165 (upgraded to a 2171) after my recoil exploded.  That one will manage any big stuff that comes my way.  Plus, I need to find a 24" bar for it.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2021, 10:36:35 PM »
Here it is. Showed up on my doorstep before lunch today. Was a long afternoon at work waiting to get home to have a look in the box.  I've owned exactly one brand new saw in my life, and that was 20+ years ago.  This thing is so shiny and pretty, I almost hate to put it to work.  Anybody else have those reservations?  I thought the 2100-series were sexy saws...these 2200's are growing on me!

I'm thinking an 18" bar will pair nicely with this saw.  I've seen some old stock Jonsered badged bars on Ebay.  Are those of decent quality?  Might they be Total?  Or what recommendations would you all have?

A small thing I was very impressed with: captive bar nuts!  Now that is slick!

@Spike60 is there a Jonsered decal "kit" or are they sold individually?

One last thing, the seller had a "make offer" provision on his listing.  We settled on $350.  Shipping was free, but tax brought the total up to about $375 so I'm very happy with that.






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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2021, 11:32:07 PM »
I was running Stihl Ultra @50:1 in all my old saws. I never had any trouble, but last yr decided to run everything 40:1. Peace of mind and unobtainium saw parts drove my decision. As far as new saws, if they say 50:1, you're probably good....but 40:1 isn't going to foul anything or cause coke/carbon issues.

The difference between 2.6oz per gal and 3.2oz per gal isn't going to break anyone's bank.

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Re: Redmax GZ5000
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2021, 07:13:26 AM »
That’s a beauti of a saw, where can I get one?


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