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Re: Did You know - outdoor edition
« Reply #2920 on: January 15, 2023, 08:28:44 PM »
We have no Jackalopes so the principal food source for Wolfalards are Orges and Chimeras.  The kill site will be a bloody mess but no remains are ever found.  No hides, bones, or anything.  It's a total mystery.   smiley_headscratch
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« Reply #2921 on: January 15, 2023, 09:44:34 PM »
Lynn,

 I don't want to burst your bubble but I think that is a rare horned doe Jackalope - like a doe deer with horns which happens occasionally. I do not see the distinct 3" protruding canines from the upper lip or the 6" curved lower tusks from the bottom jaw for which they are so famous for slashing packs of dogs like I would expect to see from a mature male Jackalope.
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« Reply #2922 on: January 16, 2023, 09:55:09 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clouded_leopard

  Did you know there is a small leopard in parts of Asia called a clouded leopard? It seems to be about the size of our North American bobcat with females weighing from 25-35 lbs and a big male weighing maybe 50 lbs. They hunt small mammals and birds in their native habitat.

  I just learned about these leopards last week reading about how someone cut a hole in the enclosure in the Dallas Zoo where 2 female leopards were kept. One escaped but never left the grounds while the other stayed in her enclosure. The zoo was shut down when they found her gone and they found and safely recaptured her later that same day.
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« Reply #2923 on: January 17, 2023, 11:19:27 AM »
   Did you know the first cattle, other than possibly milk cows and a few oxen, were actually introduced to the America in Fla by Ponce de Leon and other Spanish explorers? Also the term cowboy was used more for herders out west riding horses and using lassos while in Fla and Ga and such they were called Cow Hunters and largely used whips and herding dogs to gather the wild cattle from the thick brush where roping them was much more difficult.

   There are a number of interesting books out there called Cracker Westerns which are particularly good reading for those interested in life in the early southern USA, mostly Fla. They are fiction but but contain some good historical facts about the period.
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« Reply #2924 on: January 17, 2023, 04:20:10 PM »
I believe bull whips still used in Texas brush/mesquite country. Went to school with a guy from south Texas that could whip a fly off the wall, said the whip was the only way for them, drag it alongside the horse as they chased cows.  Rope was a mess.  Of course, that was years before chaining and herbicides. 
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« Reply #2925 on: January 17, 2023, 05:30:31 PM »
   What amazed me when I looked on line was how little info there was about the use of dogs during the rounding up and herding the cattle from Texas to the markets mostly to the north. A dog getting an unruly cow or steer out of the brush has to be much more effective than riding in there with a rope or whip.

   BTW - one explanation for the term Fla Cracker came from the use of whips when they were collecting and herding cattle out of the brush there. The other suggested source is that they cracked their corn to make their grits which was a staple food item for them.
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« Reply #2926 on: January 17, 2023, 06:03:42 PM »
Florida does have a lot of forgotten but fascinating history from the Spanish period. I listened to an audio book about some of the early explorers. I can't remember his name, but he organized people to start a colony in Florida. This was after the Incas and Aztecs had been conquered, and the Spanish were figuring on another big gold and silver stockpile. Didn't happen, the natives they found didn't have gold and their population was pretty sparse. The terrain was horrible with swamps and impassable brush choked forests. They lost 90% of the expedition, the survivors put out on rafts. They blew across the Gulf of Mexico, landed around current Galveston, Texas. They made friends with some natives who at first befriended them, but then enslaved them. They were there several years before they escaped, made their way across Mexico to the Gulf of California where they ran into some Spanish slave raiders who thought they were natives at first. Around 10 years had passed, no one could believe they were still alive. I'm leaving a ton out but it was an incredible story. Also, maybe some of those Florida cattle came from them😁
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« Reply #2927 on: January 18, 2023, 09:55:57 AM »
   Since we were talking of cows, herding, ropes, etrc. did you know many of our American words came from other languages and the Lasso or Lariat apparently came from the Spanish words La Riata for rope? Lots of times we change the accent from the original language.

   The word "Clear" in French is "Transparent" but they pronounce it Trans Pear Aunt while we typically pronounce it Trans parent. Chauffer is French for Driver. If you have a pretty good vocabulary you can often get the gist of much of a foreign language although they sometimes get the order of the words all jumbled up. :D
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« Reply #2928 on: January 18, 2023, 10:01:09 AM »
I had bought a used Ford f150 Lariat one time, I was showing it to my Dad and said "it's a lariat, what ever that means" to which he replied " it means lasso but in this case it probably means tow rope". :D

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« Reply #2929 on: January 18, 2023, 10:06:13 AM »
   I can see your dad was clearly a Dodge fan like me. :D
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« Reply #2930 on: January 18, 2023, 12:01:08 PM »
American words came from other languages


Actually 40% plus of the English language is French based and 30-40% German based. It probably has something to do with all these lands being Roman at some time and proximity.
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« Reply #2931 on: January 19, 2023, 09:32:25 AM »
   I see several threads here now about shedding of antlers. Did you know shed antlers are pretty quickly gnawed to nothingness by any rodents and such in the area?  Examples include mice, squirrels, chipmunks, porcupines, and I suspect rabbits and hares eat them too. They gnaw them to obtain the minerals the antlers provide and the animals need. If you are looking for sheds you better find them pretty quickly or they will be severely damaged with points chewed off and chunks missing from the min beams, etc.
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« Reply #2932 on: January 19, 2023, 10:06:14 AM »
Good point! Usually in my experience the closer it gets to spring and warms up the chances are much higher the squirrels 🐿 will really chew on them. Ive found them with a few chews and some completely destroyed. 

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« Reply #2933 on: January 19, 2023, 06:07:12 PM »
I've taken some of my not-so-great antlers from the garage and tossed them back in the woods to let the critters have them. Some areas have precious little available calcium. I regularly take eggshells and crush them in my gravel driveway and they go fast. Birds in many calcium poor areas can benefit. They use it in their gizzards to grind food and in nesting season to make eggs of their own. Birds in areas like New Yorks' Adirondacks have been found to have trouble getting enough calcium during nesting season.

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« Reply #2934 on: January 20, 2023, 09:43:20 AM »
   Thanks to KEC reminder to prompt today's topic. Did you know birds need some gravel or grit in their craw to help digest seeds and such? Crushed seashells like are fed to chickens are readily picked by wild turkeys. I knew an old experienced turkey hunter that routinely located and hunted turkeys in N. Fla in areas around old gravel roads where the turkeys would go to pick gravel.
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« Reply #2935 on: January 20, 2023, 01:42:02 PM »
Not too far from my home there is a state forest area that was planted to larch and spruces many years ago by the Civilian Conservation Corp (CCC). It is the one place around here where you have a reasonable chance of finding/seeing Red Crossbills and maybe White-winged Crossbills. A while back you needed only drive there to a parking lot and look along the edge of the road to see crossbills picking grit and not being that wary. When driving dirt/gravel roads through heavily forested areas, watch for various kinds of birds down in the road, oftentimes either gritting or dust bathing. At times when there is a lot of snow, watch for birds working the bare ground along the edge of the road that were scaped bare by the wing on the snowplows. I've seen Pine Grosbeaks that way and many Horned Larks and Snow Buntings.

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« Reply #2936 on: January 21, 2023, 08:44:40 PM »
   Did you know a male hog is called a boar but if he has been neutered he is a barrow or more often called a bar hog? A young female is called a gilt but after she has had pigs she is called a sow.
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« Reply #2937 on: January 22, 2023, 05:51:02 PM »
    Did you know that rodent's teeth constantly grow and they must chew hard materials to keep them worn down? If not the teeth will grow very long and curl to the point the animal cannot eat and will starve to death. This is a mistake many people make when they make a pet of a squirrel, beaver or woodchuck or such. They feed the animal soft foods and his teeth do not get worn down as they would in nature.
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« Reply #2938 on: January 22, 2023, 07:28:37 PM »
I've caught 2 woodchucks over the years that had their incisor teeth that did not wear properly. The teeth were long and curled like a wooly mammoth or something. Both appeared to be healthy.

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« Reply #2939 on: January 22, 2023, 08:07:30 PM »
   They must have had access to a decent supply of soft food they could eat and survive on. I had heard of the same thing with woodchucks but have never seen it myself.

   Elephants have 3 sets of molars with each replacing the other till the last one wears out. When that happens they have to eat bananas and soft papyrus stalks instead of woody fiber like they normally eat. 
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