Loaded a big 33 inch Red Oak on the mill today, 8 foot long and got some really nice 1/4 sawn lumber out of it.
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These boards were 23 inches wide.
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I was able to get 7 full size 23 inch quarter sawn boards without any pith in it.
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I was able to get 4 quarter sawn board 14 inches wide, 8 boards 6 inches wide and 13 boards 4 1/2 inches wide. Had a slew of different width plain sawn boards,Oh yeh, and some nice firewood sticks.
Got the Dang blade hung up 1 time, took about 5 minutes to cut it out but other than that I had a try productive day.
I used the quarter sawing method EARL from Woodmizer showed us at the owners get together. His way sure saves time and puts more $ CHA CHING $ in your pocket.
Very nice boards, David. smiley_thumbsup Has that q'sawing method been discussed on the forum before?
What blade were you using on the little red oak?
Quote from: Ga_Mtn_Man on April 28, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
Very nice boards, David. smiley_thumbsup Has that q'sawing method been discussed on the forum before?
What blade were you using on the little red oak?
I don't know if it's been discussed or not. However the way Earl showed me, you do not saw the whole log into 4 quarters.
I used a brand new 10 degree WM blade and cranked it down to 3000 psi to pull it through the 23 inch boards.
I could have went faster with a 4 degree but the 10 degree made the boards smooth as silk....ya just have to slow your speed down a little from what you're used to.
Nice looking boards! I was at the WM Open house today. Wally and Joe were talking about Earl's demo. Sounds like it was good. I have to practice something once I hear it to ensure it sticks! Looks like you must have been paying attention.
Quote from: samandothers on April 28, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
Looks like you must have been paying attention.
say_what HEY EARL.....COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? Quarter what? :D :D :D
Pauline,
You did good!
Can you gives a description of Earl's quarter sawing technique? I don't do much quarter sawing because I'm too slow at it, if there is a faster way, I'm interested. ???
Thanks,
YH
Nice pics David, that's the way I've been quartersawing ever since I started. Your pics explain it well , take a slab off the top then some QS through the middle then put both slabs back on on edge and QS them. Sometimes if the pith is nasty I'll take both the bottom and top slabs off then cut the pith (blocking) out of the center before QS the center. Steve
Forgot to mention this is the fastest, best way to QS. It take around 5 extra minutes to saw a log. Steve
Quote from: ladylake on April 29, 2012, 07:02:35 AM
Nice pics David, that's the way I've been quartersawing ever since I started. Your pics explain it well , take a slab off the top then some QS through the middle then put both slabs back on on edge and QS them. Sometimes if the pith is nasty I'll take both the bottom and top slabs off then cut the pith (blocking) out of the center before QS the center. Steve
Yep....this is it Steve. I used to saw the log in 4 pieces. No more. The way I did it this time saves a bunch of time, especially if you don'y have a off bearer,
You know I looked at your pictures yesterday. And all I think about other than nice looking boards...
Is that stuff looks HEAVY. My arms and back hurt just looking at it.
I hope your customers can appreciate how much work goes into sawing a monster like that.
Last time I cut up a good sized oak, I just slid the boards off the other side of the mill and left them in the sawdust until help arrived.
Nice looking job you did.
Regards Chris
Scott Banbury of Midtown Logging and Lumber in TN did up some nice PDF's of quartersawing techniques. I'd point you to his website, but unfortunately his website appears to be gone (http://www.scottbanbury.com). I'll attempt to attach copies...
Quote from: snowshoveler on April 29, 2012, 09:08:08 AM
You know I looked at your pictures yesterday. And all I think about other than nice looking boards...
Is that stuff looks HEAVY. My arms and back hurt just looking at it.
I hope your customers can appreciate how much work goes into sawing a monster like that.
Last time I cut up a good sized oak, I just slid the boards off the other side of the mill and left them in the sawdust until help arrived.
Nice looking job you did.
Regards Chris
Not bad at all on a hyd mill, just slide the top and bottom cants onto the loader arms and slide back on when ready to saw. Steve
I use method #1 for most logs over 20" in diameter.
For logs from 10" to 20" if the customer wants them quarter sawn, I just cut them in half and stand each half up and cut them. Some boards will have to be edged to remove the bark and the pith.
There are several methods.
It's all about the final product though, with as little waste as possible. I quarter saw mostly Sycamore for customers and QS my own Oak logs and sell the lumber.
I have found not to get caught up in one method. Some logs have the "perfect" circles while others have erratic circles.
The best method I have found is a good eye and a sharp blade. Don't let a method determine how you quarter saw but let the log determine your next cut. Sometimes it will take a little longer but your time will be well taken care of with $$$$.
I don't like sawing a log in half on the get go. I saw the wide boards out of the middle first then you don't have such a large, heavy slab on top to slide off on the HD lift arms.
I am now really wanting to try the method to get the FLAME SLABS out of a log where you jack up one side of the log in the air. You can get some really nice flame lumber out of a log.....not very stable wood but looks good in door panels etc.
I'll be doing some QS soon useing the method above, just got in 2 white oak logs 34" x 10' scaling 550+ bf each. I'll use my brothers TK2000, they will go right through that one. I'd be chainsawing some to get them through my B20. My skid loader will barely lift them but they should wiegh over 5000# Steve
Quote from: ladylake on April 29, 2012, 08:38:08 PM
I'll be doing some QS soon useing the method above, just got in 2 white oak logs 34" x 10' scaling 550+ bf each. I'll use my brothers TK2000, they will go right through that one. I'd be chainsawing some to get them through my B20. My skid loader will barely lift them but they should wiegh over 500# Steve
My log was 8 foot.....so you do have a MONSTER. Be sure to take some pictures Steve. :)
I got a call from a local guy Friday wanting me to come saw two white oak logs that are 8 feet long and 36/36 and 1/2" on the small ends. He wants them quartersawed. I'll probably end up using method 2 or 3. I need to get my eyes on them and see how much emphasis he wants to put on true quartersawn. I told him I'd charge $75.00 an hour and we can go as slow as he wants. :)
I tried method 2 once, never again as there's way to much waste plus I like the rift sawn left over from sawing method 1. Pics might be hard for me as I'm a 1 finger typer and my phone cam doesn't like to get on the computer. Steve
Quote from: ladylake on April 29, 2012, 10:12:45 PM
Pics might be hard for me as I'm a 1 finger typer and my phone cam doesn't like to get on the computer.
:) :) :) I know what ya mean. :) :) :)
Here is a U-tube video showing a method similar to Poston's except they
quarter it;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O01vkDEMoyY&feature=relmfu
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Those are some wide growth rings!
The fella in that video is from WI ...goes by Birky. He's got one of the prettiest quartersawn floors in his house you ever want to see. You can go to his website and check it out.
Whos hand and foot is that in the first picture?!
Oh my gosh...
David is there something you should tell us.
Yikes
Quote from: snowshoveler on May 05, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
Oh my gosh...
David is there something you should tell us.
Yikes
The hand and foot was from a non-paying customer! :D
I had heard that you were charging an arm and a leg for your sawing. ;D
Quote from: Magicman on May 05, 2012, 10:10:48 PM
I had heard that you were charging an arm and a leg for your sawing. ;D
That's right MM. I charge by the FOOT and every customer has a HAND in it! :D
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You guys are a riot! :D :D :D