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Re: MS 400
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2021, 08:21:51 AM »
I have cut quite abit of timber with this saw now , zero problems and it runs pretty nice and its light and real nice on the hands
I have read all your post to date and I think you got me sold.  I have three 362's now, love em.
But, got to move with the times.  I'm going to see about a 400.   Hope it works out as well for me.
Biggest problem I have lately is that all the "saw shops" I used to go to are now all "lawn and garden" places for home owners mostly.   Not enough loggers left around for the way the shops used to be I guess.
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2021, 06:39:36 PM »
the 462 does have more torque but if the chain is sharp they cut not that much different , the 500i has quite abit more torque but alot more money and I prefer to cut with the 400 if I can, On big trees I do use the 500i so anything getting close to 40 inch on the stump I grab the 500i and I'm talking hardwood , mostly hard maple or walnut . On the bigger red oak I have been using the 400 as oak cuts easy 

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2021, 07:13:25 PM »
Ed, how does the ms400 compare to the Husky 562, they're the same size lass aren't they?
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2021, 08:32:22 PM »
I do not have a stock 562 to test against , the 562's I got here are ported . The 400 is a very nice saw to run , could it use more power and that would be yes but I have never ran a saw where I thought I wanted less power 

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2021, 08:34:33 PM »
400 is 67 cc where the 562 is 59cc , 562 is a screamer but in say 20 inch hardwood I'm not sure which is faster but I'm thinking the 400 has abit more torque

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2021, 08:47:23 PM »
Its only going to make sense, because of the old saying; theirs no replacement for displacement!
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2021, 11:07:30 PM »
I didn't realize the 400 was 67cc, I thought it was a replacement for the 362...aren't those 60cc class? I'm not really a Stihl guy, and I appreciate most saw manufacturers putting the cc of the saw in the model number for a simple yellow such as myself😁  I don't have a lot of time on my Husky 562, but it has become my go to saw. I regret I didn't get one years ago, it makes me smile every time I run it😊
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2021, 08:04:33 PM »
after holding the ms400 and ms500i I decided to go with a ms500i with a 20" light and 25" light bars. The 400 felt lighter obviously, but the 500 didn't feel overweight with the smaller lighter bars and as I've only got a 261 and now 500i, I felt like the 500i was a better compliment as it can run bigger bars in the future if I ever need one.

The first time I ran it I was a little shocked at the throttle response. The 400 felt great in the hands, too!

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2021, 06:57:09 PM »
saw is still working very well even in this 100 F heat , this 400 has cut alot of timber now and zero problems 

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2021, 11:12:30 AM »
the 462 does have more torque but if the chain is sharp they cut not that much different , the 500i has quite abit more torque but alot more money and I prefer to cut with the 400 if I can, On big trees I do use the 500i so anything getting close to 40 inch on the stump I grab the 500i and I'm talking hardwood , mostly hard maple or walnut . On the bigger red oak I have been using the 400 as oak cuts easy
How does the plug look on the 400/462/500? My 462 seems to drink a lot of fuel from the amount of cutting I get out of a tank. I have noticed that it runs a very dark plug as well. Are you getting the same or more cutting out of a tank through the 400 vs the 462? Thanks!
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2021, 05:32:13 PM »
never had the plug out as I can tell just by the sound of the motor on how its running , I make my saws cut and not just cut away as I find they will run rich, the 500i is I find I got to make it cut to even get it to clear up on the sound , they run pretty rich . Watch the color of your muffler , if its not turning a blue/purple color your not pushing or making the motor work hard enough. AS far as fuel goes per tank  my 400 cuts more trees to a equal amount of fuel compared to the 462 . I just got my second 400 today, it finally came in 

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« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2021, 11:57:38 AM »
another thing , its hard to say how many trees per tank comparing 1 saw to another of a different model cause the tank size is different in volume , one thing that is for sure is the 400 does not use much bar oil and I mean very little , I wished my 400 used abit more bar oil 

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« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2021, 02:40:58 PM »
another thing , its hard to say how many trees per tank comparing 1 saw to another of a different model cause the tank size is different in volume , one thing that is for sure is the 400 does not use much bar oil and I mean very little , I wished my 400 used abit more bar oil
The tank to tank comparison of different size is exactly what I was getting at. If you can cut roughly the same amount of wood with a tank on each saw that would mean the 400 is significantly more fuel efficient because the tank is smaller (600vs.720ml). Pretty sure you can drop in a HO oiler control bolt from a 461 for better oil flow.
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2021, 08:07:30 AM »
 Some swiss loggers told me that the 500i is a real fuel hog, they use the saw since 2-3years, so lots of experience.
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Re: MS 400
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2021, 09:38:03 AM »
Some swiss loggers told me that the 500i is a real fuel hog, they use the saw since 2-3years, so lots of experience.
They do use some fuel but really its right on par with most saws of that size like a 390 husky.

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2021, 10:49:02 AM »
I didn't find the 500i hard on fuel at all.  But what I did find is I had to make the saw cut to make it use the power it has .  

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2021, 12:05:21 PM »
A torque machine?
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« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2021, 12:54:01 PM »
Its ok on torque . Not as much as the 462 . Compression is not high on the 400 either so not great if you want torque . I have not touched the 400 I been falling with but maybe just maybe this other 400 might go under the knife . I wanted to see how the piston wears on the first 400 sense it's magnesium but so far its the same as the others 

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2021, 12:54:38 PM »
500i is a light weight torque machine 

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Re: MS 400
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2021, 01:33:21 PM »
Anybody port one of these yet or know someone who has?
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