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Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« on: June 09, 2021, 03:49:25 PM »
Mine takes 5 pulls to fire on choke, and 5 pulls on high speed then it seems to always start. Its an 066 but my 038s seem to match. Just wondering if anybody has found an easier way. I do know from watching my neighbor that he usually gets his going faster but he is younger and stouter. I was trying to figure out how to put a primer bulb on it. Ha.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2021, 04:16:02 PM »
Try choke on and fully pull the starter out SLOWLY about 5 times. Then regular pull to start. Sounds like they need some carb tuning.
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2021, 04:26:54 PM »
My 026 was always a pain.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2021, 04:45:36 PM »
My 361 is the same way since new, I thought it was because I use it infrequently but after a year and a half of sitting I pulled my 25 year old Dolmar 115 out of the shed and it started on the forth pull so I guess not.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2021, 04:50:26 PM »
Oh yes, always. That is definitely a problem with most if not all Stihl products. Many Stihl owners spend a lot of time going to PT sessions from trying to start their saws.  Husky's on the other hand never have an issue starting. Not even the auto-tune models in the 92į temps we've had this week. I can't recall a customer ever complaining about a starting issue in the 30 years I've been in business.  Huskys always start on the first pull, and just wait until the new "voice command" start models arrive next year.  :D

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2021, 04:55:37 PM »
Spike...  :^D

My Stihls all start easily, but not as good as my echoes. I have a sick 026, a 362cm, and a 661cm. I formerly had a 362 non cm. My echoes are cs400, and cs2511t. My PoulanPro isn't even too bad, but it stalls more frequently when cutting conditions suddenly change. Might just need a bit of tuning.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2021, 05:04:22 PM »
I have no complaints about my small Stihls. Don't own anything else.
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2021, 05:37:30 PM »
Mine arenít hard to start as long as I donít leave fuel too long and I follow the recommended procedure. I did have a problem with my old 026 for a while, but I found if the trigger was held wot during the choking phase it would prime a lot faster. I think the choke mechanism was designed to do that, but over time it got out of adjustment and failed to hold the throttle. Probably could have fixed that, but I just keep a little velcro strap there to hold the trigger. The 066 might need the same little helper. 
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 08:30:37 PM »
try a new spark plug I have several stihs and they all start easy  the 038 was having trouble but the plug had not been changed for 20 years 

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 10:42:29 PM »
I am not saying my stihls are not dependable. If they had been I wouldnt have them. Its just that I would like to start easier because an 066 about makes me wonder how much longer I can run that thing. I would hate to have to go to a smaller saw because they just cant keep up. I enjoy cutting with that saw. I will just have to eat more wheaties before I go to the woods.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2021, 11:02:05 PM »
try a new spark plug I have several stihs and they all start easy  the 038 was having trouble but the plug had not been changed for 20 years
Have you had the plugs out lately?  At least take a look. I tend to run my plugs too long and Iím always amazed when I finally put a new one in a saw. 
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2021, 05:22:51 AM »
Try choke on and fully pull the starter out SLOWLY about 5 times. Then regular pull to start. Sounds like they need some carb tuning.
Listen to him!!!
I have a 372 husky. Have to pull 4-5-6 times on that thing. Than I did what Tacotodd posted. That saw will almost start on the 2nd pull now. I think I slowly pull my 3 times. But whatever works.
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2021, 08:02:25 AM »
My first real exposure to a chainsaw was a small 16" (MS260? I don't remember) Stihl, borrowed from my FIL. It made me completely crazy with the amount of pulling I had to do to get it running. I eventually replaced the spark plug and carb on it and that made it a little better but after seeing my neighbor fire up his Husqvarna 455, very easily, I went that route when I bought my own. I don't use it too frequently but it always starts easily. 
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2021, 08:38:14 AM »
I always thought my Stihl blower, trimmers, and saws started pretty good until I started using and collecting other brands.  There is a difference for sure.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2021, 08:51:55 AM »
I'll have to try Tacotodd's method. Mine start reliably, but it can take 5+ pulls. My newer 261CM starts easier - maybe 3-4pulls most of the time. Ones with traditional carbs, I was told to pull with full choke until you here ANY firing - even a blip. Then partial choke. Otherwise you'll flood it. That seems to work for me.
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2021, 06:10:34 PM »
It will be tough to out-do @Spike60 for the answer of the day!  I guess I should have switched a long time ago.  I have a 362, and a 461, and I really don't have issues with either.  I tried some voice command on them earlier, but no avail.  Waiting for the upgrade.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2021, 06:24:13 PM »
I tried some voice command on them earlier, but no avail.  Waiting for the upgrade.


Had a car salesperson tell me about a customer trading in his car and wanted to know if the new one had voice activated cruse control like his old one, the sales man said "I've never heard of that" the old guy says " sure it does every time I go over 100 kph I hear a woman's voice saying SLOW THE %$# DOWN! 

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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2021, 07:46:40 PM »
My Stihl doesn't start any harder than my Husky or Jred saws. In fact, my Jred 2171 is a bit of a son of a gun to start if it has sat for a while. It takes a lot of pulls to get gas through it.
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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2021, 11:26:38 AM »
What PoginyHill said above, but, critical that you hear it "pop".  When you hear it pop, put choke control lever one notch up from full choke, and pull till it starts.  After it starts, let it idle for 3-5 minutes before using.
  Another way i sometimes use is to pour a very small amount of mix onto the air cleaner, then crank it, seems to me to be about 1 or 2 less pulls this way.
  These methods are for a cold saw.  A warm saw, don't choke it at all, just pull the rope and if it's in tune, it should crank first or second pull.
  I volunteer with a church chainsaw team.  They don't use a chainsaw till we go to a disaster.  They almost always flood the saw.  They can't hear the pop, and just keep pulling with it on full choke.  So, now I tell them, on a cold saw, put it on full choke, pull sharply three times, move lever up one notch, pull till it cranks, don't touch the saw, let it idle 3-5 minutes while putting on the ppe, then saw is ready to take the throttle and work.
  I only use Stihls, 024,032, 038M, 064, 084. Church group uses ms250, ms361, ms261cm, these methods work on all of them.

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Re: Are Stihl saws always hard to start?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2021, 11:31:50 AM »
I should have said the ms261cm is the sole exception to this starting method.  For a cold start move lever all the way down and crank it.  Let it idle 3-5 minutes and it's ready to work.  For a warm start, don't do anything but pull the rope!


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