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Started by j_d, October 17, 2021, 05:57:25 PM

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BargeMonkey

Quote from: Plankton on October 19, 2021, 08:14:54 PM
100 minimum per hour if it was here. We get 125$ moving wood. I just don't understand the guys running running triaxled dumps for 80. Doesn't add up.
The problem in comparison is exactly what snowstorm hinted at, why I said something about what my legal weights are in NY, if he can't carry enough weight and can't unload as fast then he's better off staying per Mbdft than per hour. 
 The guys running triaxles for 80 an hr have put themselves under. 

SwampDonkey

I've never seen it by the hour here, always by weight or volume off the scales. No chance to fudge/pad the numbers basing it on a scale bill from the mill. And them bills all cross the desk of the marketing board where the trucker knows he gets paid and no chasing down his money. ;D
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Blue Noser

Quote from: SwampDonkey on October 20, 2021, 03:45:52 AM
I've never seen it by the hour here, always by weight or volume off the scales. No chance to fudge/pad the numbers basing it on a scale bill from the mill. And them bills all cross the desk of the marketing board where the trucker knows he gets paid and no chasing down his money. ;D
You're correct that "industrial scaled" operations weigh their wood, but that per tonne rate is still based off of a time/equipment value factor.

The only thing a man really has to sell is his time. 

j_d

I appreciate all the insight.  I took a look yesterday and the logs are staged 7 mi. from where they need to be.  If things go well I could do a trip an hour but I wanted a little pad in there.  When I offered $125 per load as much as I could reasonably carry he accepted immediately.  
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Kodiakmac

Last load of hardwood I sent over to Quebec was in June.  4100 bf on a tandem with a lift axle.  Charged me a flat rate that worked out to $120 CDN per hour.  
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nativewolf

Quote from: j_d on October 20, 2021, 08:41:49 PM
I appreciate all the insight.  I took a look yesterday and the logs are staged 7 mi. from where they need to be.  If things go well I could do a trip an hour but I wanted a little pad in there.  When I offered $125 per load as much as I could reasonably carry he accepted immediately.  
oh well, asking too little  :D when they accept without haggling
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AndyVT

For hauling my sawlogs to the mill, the trucker charges $65-70 per 1000bd/ft
He gets about 7k ft on his truck and pup so a load costs me $400-500/ load.
The mill is about 45-60 minutes away.

Gary_C

I wish you well but I have a couple more questions. 

1.  Are you prepared to lie to the DOT about the ownership of the logs if you get stopped? Be aware the DOT in many states can go to the mill where you are hauling the logs and check to see in whose name the logs are being sold. In order to cure that problem you will need to be a "for hire carrier" and have operating authority as a commercial carrier.

2.  Do you have insurance coverage for what you are planning to do? Most commercial insurance companies have a particular dislike for hauling logs and operating a log loader in a commercial setting. A guy I know was doing that and one of his drivers forgot to lower his log loader when exiting a mill and took down the three phase that fed an entire industrial park. He lost everything and is no long in the hauling business as he is not insurable. 
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