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Edvantage

I'll send photos of chainsaw setup. I dropped price  steel sheet acrossed my foot just behind steel toe > . Got bruise which turned to infection. Almost killed me from infection. Never broke the skin. Finally getting better after a month. 

zinc oxide

Quote from: Bindian on October 11, 2020, 12:12:11 AMLet me see if I understand you right.  You are using a beam saw and gonna build a chicken coop?


Something else I didn't know, but makes perfect sense in retrospect.

Chickens are the descendants of dinosaurs! Who would've thunk it?

The neighbor lady up the Holler has a bunch and can't seem to keep them contained. Makes perfect sense now that I know that they are actually Tyrannosaurus'... in disguise.  Every time those chickens see me walking to the crick, they come a runnin' and cacklin'. I hardly have time to spread the feed for the turkeys and deer before barely escaping with my life by running back to the relative safety of the shed. (Out of sight, out of mind?) It makes me shudder, thinking that one day I may trip and fall. The horror.

 Clearly, I will need to build a substantial structure.

Figure I will need a Lignatool or Arunda  dovetail system for the roosts when I can afford them, until then I will have to settle for something I can contrive with the Mikita chain mortise tool which has yet to see the light of day. The various width chains start at only $400 +.
 
 it would be nice to have $6000 plus for the Mafell bandsaw, could probably make some kind of fancy curly cue ridge pole overhang to drape the remnants of any coyote  brave enough to venture near the chickens. Sure... The coyotes generally run from even fat old humans, but I don't think they would stand a chance against the local chickens.

 Apparently, Ryobi made one at some point in the past also. There is a gentleman who goes by the moniker 'samurai carpenter' I believe who has a lot of informative/entertaining videos. Somewhat of a unique personality.

Of course I want the bandsaw in question in the worst way, envy one of the seven deadly sins.  Actually thought about getting a job, at least until I could save up enough for the bandsaw and one of the dovetail systems... But it's getting kind of late in life to try new things.

  Thank You's  to those who spoke highly of the O... Something Brand saw blades, your testimonials are much appreciated.

thecfarm

Edvantage, just never know do ya? Take care, glad things are better now!!!
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Edvantage

 
This is my beam cutter. Cut 6x12 rafters and 8x18 beams. Cuts perfectly square with speed square for guide. Clamp speed square on angle for rafter cuts. Finish is decent. I housed all my beam ends so smooth finish not as critical. Otherwise I finish with palm sander. Aluminum angles could be wider. I would suggest 2" angle iron. I milled slots for chain clearance. You could just use washers between bar and aluminum. 
 

TimW

Quote from: tule peak timber on October 11, 2020, 11:49:04 AM
Here is a pic of the saw. The owner at Timberwolf Tools claimed that of all the tools he sold me the portable BS would become my favorite- and he was right. I'm new to this timber framing technique and want to thank Don P again for his advise on my first try.


Tule Peak,
       Is that a Mafell Z5Ec?
                       hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Quote from: Edvantage on October 11, 2020, 09:23:54 PM
I'll send photos of chainsaw setup. I dropped price  steel sheet acrossed my foot just behind steel toe > . Got bruise which turned to infection. Almost killed me from infection. Never broke the skin. Finally getting better after a month.
Ouch!  Guess I win the foot race by default.  After my foot surgeries, I got a staph infection and the that foot swelled up til it the skin stretched and it hurt BAD.   I hate taking antibiotics.
        hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

Quote from: Edvantage on October 12, 2020, 11:47:22 AM

This is my beam cutter. Cut 6x12 rafters and 8x18 beams. Cuts perfectly square with speed square for guide. Clamp speed square on angle for rafter cuts. Finish is decent. I housed all my beam ends so smooth finish not as critical. Otherwise I finish with palm sander. Aluminum angles could be wider. I would suggest 2" angle iron. I milled slots for chain clearance. You could just use washers between bar and aluminum.

Thanks.  I didn't realize it was so close to the power head.  I just might try that on a cordless saw, when I buy one.
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

tule peak timber

Quote from: Bindian on October 12, 2020, 11:19:01 PM
Quote from: tule peak timber on October 11, 2020, 11:49:04 AM
Here is a pic of the saw. The owner at Timberwolf Tools claimed that of all the tools he sold me the portable BS would become my favorite- and he was right. I'm new to this timber framing technique and want to thank Don P again for his advise on my first try.


Tule Peak,
      Is that a Mafell Z5Ec?
                      hugs,  Brandi
Yes it is a Mafell. I have my own foot story if you are interested, not saw related though. Rob
persistence personified - never let up , never let down

Tom King

Quote from: ljohnsaw on October 10, 2020, 05:26:28 PM
Tom, On that Oshlun blade, did you get the 32 or 60 tooth blade?
I remembered to check today.  It's the lower tooth count blade.  I was actually surprised, remembering how perfectly smooth the cuts were.

Don P

With most common material, higher tooth count mainly sucks up horsepower and doesn't improve cut quality enough to matter. Sharp and steady means more.

John S

I have the new Skill wormdrive Supersawsquatch and have used it a few times.  It works great.  I cannot imagine getting a better quality cut from a chain saw.
2018 LT40HDG38 Wide

Dana Stanley

My beam saw and mortising drill! Old Wen saw, and Chinese 1/2" drill. If I did more, I would get a Circular timber saw for angles and cleaner cut.

 

 
Making Sawdust, boards and signs.
Woodland Mills HM-126
Kabota B-7800 with backhoe and loader
Ford Ranger, Husqvarna 455 20", Mac 610 24", other chainsaws 14", 23 ton log splitter
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TimW

I tried the Super Sawsquatch today.  I has unbelievable torque when starting and stoping.  You really need to hang on to it.  It really is a huge, awkward saw.  I can see why you suppose to clamp the work down.  Learning curve continuing.
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

nopoint

Stay safe out there. I have the makita saw and personally I feel much safer picking up the chainsaw. Although the cut quality isn't there... but I still try.

logman

I just got a Sawsquatch, it is so much easier to cut with then the Makita.  
LT40HD, 12' ext, 5105 JD tractor, Genie GTH5519 telehandler
M&K Timber Works

TimW

Quote from: logman on November 17, 2020, 09:57:50 AM
I just got a Sawsquatch, it is so much easier to cut with then the Makita.  
Glad to hear that.
  hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

TimW

I used the Skil Super Supersawsquatch today.  Cut about 10, clamped down cuts.  I love it. 8) smiley_clapping smiley_blue_bounce smiley_divide smiley_flipping smiley_roller smiley_bounce smiley_hollywood_cool taz-smiley smiley_hellow_im_here horn_smiley smiley_guitarist smiley_trap_drummer  Takes a little learning curve on your sight line, as you are way behind the cutline.  I get it supported, resting on what I am cutting and a same size support behind and to the right.  Then I pull the trigger and wait for it to spool up.  Then I release the trigger before lifting off of the cut piece.  The brake stops it pretty fast.
hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

cib

Quote from: Don P on October 10, 2020, 10:04:13 PM
Well I'll take back my previous comment, the Makita has more guts than I give it credit for  :D

Bindian, I think I remember you had foot trouble. My big operator error with that saw was having my tennis shoe clad foot under the offcut when not paying attention. I wear an H wide boot now, tree frogged that poor thing.
I had that happen to myself about 3 weeks ago. I cut off a 2 foot section of a 7x10. It no feel good.

Don P

Bummer! I was on a job in IL with just the two of us so no backup and limped it off. I probably should have gone in. Over the years it has turned into a pretty big and tender knot of arthritis. If it broke it I'm not sure what they can do but it is probably worth giving the docs a shot at it.

We were talking with the farm manager this morning, the cows were frisky. She told us that a year or two ago they had some event going on and she arrived beforehand, dressed up and wearing open toed sandals. When she got there one of the cows was out and enjoying the garden. She was trying to move him, these jerseys are gentle enough but huge, and yup, he came down right on top of her foot. It's easy to take your transportation for granted till it goes down on you. Take the best care of it you can.

doc henderson

with most skill type saws, I line up the notch on the base, but watch the blade relative to the line as I cut.  gives you 2 points of reference, front of the base, and the front of the blade.
Timber king 2000, 277c track loader, PJ 32 foot gooseneck, 1976 F700 state dump truck, JD 850 tractor.  2007 Chevy 3500HD dually, home built log splitter 18 horse 28 gpm with 5 inch cylinder and 32 inch split range with conveyor powered by a 12 volt tarp motor

TimW

Quote from: cib on December 09, 2020, 08:38:28 PM
Quote from: Don P on October 10, 2020, 10:04:13 PM
Well I'll take back my previous comment, the Makita has more guts than I give it credit for  :D

Bindian, I think I remember you had foot trouble. My big operator error with that saw was having my tennis shoe clad foot under the offcut when not paying attention. I wear an H wide boot now, tree frogged that poor thing.
I had that happen to myself about 3 weeks ago. I cut off a 2 foot section of a 7x10. It no feel good.
I understand completely.  I have always worn work boots.  But with getting older and after 3 foot surgeries, I need to wear extremely cushioned ($$$)  running shoes. 
But I had on cheap ($50) tennis shoes and dropped a 4x4 on top of my foot.  Ouch.  Today, while building my Grand daughter's Christmas present.  Working with the 4x4s again, I wore my work boots.
            hugs,  Brandi
Mahindra 6520 4WD with loader/backhoe and a Caterpiller E70 Excavator.  My mill is a Woodmizer LT40HD Wide 35hp Yanmar Diesel. An old Lull 644D-34 called Bull

Ljohnsaw

Quote from: YellowHammer on October 10, 2020, 08:19:44 PMere's the one I took off yesterday, its been run a little too long, and this was its third sharpening, but I'll get it sharpened again and put it back in service.

YH, What does it cost to have your blade sharpened?  Assuming pretty reasonable vs. buying a new blade?  I have an original Makita (IIRC) and a Diablo blade that could use sharpening.  My used saw came with another Diablo but it is missing a few teeth and I'll be tossing that one in the trash.

Having used my Makita over the last summer, it is much better than using a standard skilsaw and hand cutting the rest, but I find it very awkward to use since it is "left handed".  Also a little underpowered.  I don't get why they made it like that.  I found a brand new Super Sawswatch SPT70V (Amazon list $699 discounted to $549 now) on BidRL auction site that I picked up for $365 out the door.  I'll have to check what I paid for my used Makita ($250?) and see what I can sell it for to recoup some money.

Looking forward to this summer using the new saw with my new-to-me generator that can handle these saws.
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John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038, Ford 545D FEL, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/36" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

Don P

Don't toss the blade, if you can find a good saw shop or sawdoc mine can retip, tension, bend them back into shape after a wreck, generally cheaper than new, and a few have run better than new. 

Old Greenhorn

Quote from: ljohnsaw on February 15, 2021, 12:24:41 AM
Quote from: YellowHammer on October 10, 2020, 08:19:44 PMere's the one I took off yesterday, its been run a little too long, and this was its third sharpening, but I'll get it sharpened again and put it back in service.

YH, What does it cost to have your blade sharpened?  Assuming pretty reasonable vs. buying a new blade?  I have an original Makita (IIRC) and a Diablo blade that could use sharpening.  My used saw came with another Diablo but it is missing a few teeth and I'll be tossing that one in the trash.

Having used my Makita over the last summer, it is much better than using a standard skilsaw and hand cutting the rest, but I find it very awkward to use since it is "left handed".  Also a little underpowered.  I don't get why they made it like that.  I found a brand new Super Sawswatch SPT70V (Amazon list $699 discounted to $549 now) on BidRL auction site that I picked up for $365 out the door.  I'll have to check what I paid for my used Makita ($250?) and see what I can sell it for to recoup some money.

Looking forward to this summer using the new saw with my new-to-me generator that can handle these saws.
free generator
Left Handed? I have used one of these I borrowed from a good friend and I loved it. But I wouldn't call it left handed. I would just call it heavy and powerful. :D I have never seen more than the one version of the saw.
 Could you put up a photo of this left handed saw? If it's what I think and you really do want to unload it, maybe we can talk? (Of course the FF considerations will apply.) I really liked that makita, even though it scared a little me at first, you don't want it getting away from you. ;D
Tom Lindtveit, Woodsman Forest Products
Oscar 328 Band Mill, Husky 350, 450, 562, & 372 (Clone), Mule 3010, and too many hand tools. :) Retired and trying to make a living to stay that way. NYLT Certified.
OK, maybe I'm the woodcutter now.
I work with wood, There is a rumor I might be a woodworker.

Ljohnsaw

 Don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying that the Makita is a bad saw, just could stand some improvements.  Maybe a redesign...


Note that the motor is on the left side of the blade (left handed).  There is an aux handle up front that my left hand is gripping.  To see what you are cutting, you have to lean way over to the right.  It is just backwards from any other saw I've used and awkward to use a lot.  It's just the way Makita makes these.  I've made a LOT of cuts with it and have a TON more to do so I've been reading/researching.

My new Skilsaw is a worm drive so the balance is better with the motor inline with the base plate and is on the right side of the blade.  The auxiliary handle, which can be attached to the front of the shoe or the upper blade guide, is still on the left side.  The idea behind attaching it to the shoe is when you are cutting angles, you have better control and comfort.  You grip it with your left hand and is basically over your cut line.  Very comfortable.  Also, the Skilsaw shoe is a big magnesium casting that is stiff as opposed to the Makita that is stamped steel and somewhat flimsy.  The Skilsaw has a front and rear lock for the bevel angle adjustment - very sturdy.  The only thing missing is a spot to store the aux handle so it is not sticking out during transport or storage.  I'll probably cut a spot in the blow-mold storage/transport base (another nice feature!)  And the power cord is 10' long.


 

 

John Sawicky

Just North-East of Sacramento...

SkyTrak 9038, Ford 545D FEL, Davis Little Monster backhoe, Case 16+4 Trencher, Home Built 42" capacity/36" cut Bandmill up to 54' long - using it all to build a timber frame cabin.

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