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Started by BargeMonkey, February 22, 2021, 09:41:41 PM

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BargeMonkey

Can anyone give me anything bad to say about the 660s ? I'm going this weekend. 
 

 

 


 


 


  I only ever saw 1 down here yrs ago 🤷‍♂️ i think the hours are true, even all the guards are still there. 

Walnut Beast

What is the bracket for on the front blade

Southside

From the looks of it that winch has no idea what's about to happen to it.
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BargeMonkey

Quote from: Walnut Beast on February 22, 2021, 09:52:43 PM
What is the bracket for on the front blade
The story I get is that machines plowed snow most of its life, had a pusher / plow on it. 

kiko

The brackets on the blade were likely used to tote fuel to a buncher or shovel. I am only recalling , 8.3 cummins , clark transmission.  Some had ZF axles and parts were expensive and scarce ,others clark/dana. Grapple and rotator parts may be hard to come by as well.  

barbender

Guys that ran one said they felt really tippy, because you sit so high in them. Just a seat of the pants thing.
Too many irons in the fire

Firewoodjoe

A big chip operation ran them your years here. Still have some carcasses laying around. I always heard they were good. The 560s I was told to stay away from. You can tell it's pulled wood by the pain missing and welded the grapple tips. Looks like she's been sitting. Doors off. I'd say cheap. Or nothing. 

mike_belben

wow was that a fast and superficial based dismissal. 
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timberking

We had one crew had a 660 they picked up used.  Worked good was nice moving the delimber. the 460 was the most common at that time. 

Haleiwa

Quote from: mike_belben on February 23, 2021, 07:25:10 AM
wow was that a fast and superficial based dismissal.
It's the perspective of someone who actually understands what it is to make a living with machinery.   If you are spending 250 a day to hire an operator and he and the mechanic spend the morning trying to tell if the engine is actually running hot or the sending unit is shorted out because a mouse chewed the wires, the supposed savings from buying something that sat abandoned for two years disappear in a hurry. 
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Dave Shepard

Send it to me for a couple months. I'll find the weak points.
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ehp

Tires are good . Does the winch work as it looks like it has never did much so just wondering from sitting . Barge there are some north of you in canada but I never was around them skidding  but the one guy I know has 2 of them and a 460 and 360 and they are the machines he uses.  Not sure why cause never asked him . Maybe cause of the size 

BargeMonkey

 The guy who has this one has 6 jacks, has 3 of these, works all by himself, he bought it 1yr ago to run it. She's seen wood but the story is she hasn't seen wood in a LONG time, plowed snow at a private airport. Im going to call Nortrax 🤮 after I look it over, see what is available and isnt. NOTHING is cheap anymore, another FF member and I where talking excavators last night and stuff thats clean and pre emissions is out of sight. We have a 1923 Model T 1ton show truck and 4 Cletracs and I can order any parts I want, a 23yr old skidder is completely obsolete ? I had heard there was a change over on the axles, i believe this doesn't have the odd ZF axles. That 460 ive got has been BULLETPROOF and put more wood out, kind of what im hoping with this, if its really got 8100hrs ? I figure if I pick this up and that other low hr 450G I stay out of debt for a while. 

Walnut Beast

Go all out and buy a new Deere they have a 15k hrs. Warranty on the Axles and some pretty neat features 😂

tj240

Never ran one, but heard they were just an oversized 460, samemotor from what I hear. Good luck.
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Mountaynman

Barge do you remember years ago when deschaine was down in your country with the only 660 cable they ever made they were skiddin like 2 miles down an abandonded old town rd bunching to it with 2 460 grapples and a grapple cat dozer little frenchman runnin it for him was smaller than clem and moved just as fast looked like a calf roper un bellin chokers and roarin back into the woods had like a dozen slides on it just resurfaced a few years ago i believe walt chandler still has it
Semi Retired too old and fat to wade thru waist deep snow hand choppin anymore

BargeMonkey

I remember when Deschaine bought all that iron, that machine was actually on the job bordering where im cutting now. Guy out Rochester way has it now and puts 3kft a hitch out with it. Im getting to the point i may see if Clem wants to work 3 days a week 😆 They dont come much better than him, in person I can translate pretty good, its hard over the phone sometimes. 
Forester for prentice has me going all over even up by you and I just want a big spare.
Quote from: Walnut Beast on February 23, 2021, 04:07:05 PM
Go all out and buy a new Deere they have a 15k hrs. Warranty on the Axles and some pretty neat features 😂
Im working on becoming a slumlord, dont wanna buy new. Bank I deal with is basically 25% and go buy whatever you want, i had to bring down deposits for the store yesterday and got talking to the manager, depends how well the yr goes, last 8wks havent been good.


Firewoodjoe

Quote from: mike_belben on February 23, 2021, 07:25:10 AM
wow was that a fast and superficial based dismissal.
I disagree. I'm looking at it from what I see from barges post. Alone most times all times of day and night. Bought another delimber and is talking about a loader. I just don't see where he has the time to deal with a machine that's been sitting  I sure didn't mean anything by it. I have old equipment. I just bought a machine that sat for years. But I work 7-4 most days. Then work on that old equipment after. 

Firewoodjoe

And I hammered wood out for a big crew. Took 5 high hour skidders to get it done. Was running low boy 2-3 times a month swapping skidders.

Mountaynman

barge im sure others can speak the fringlish language that all french canadian woodsmen seem to speak even at almost 80 years old i bet clem would out skid most men he is an animal in the woods. 

joe i hear ya about iron been there seen it all and i will say the most money i kept in my pocket was one helper cuttin big wood on steep ground pullin to the top with the dozer and then usually an hr buggy ride to the header went after the big log trees no one else did. i know where eric is coming from and what he sees there are multiple operators down this way that have multiple machines and only operate themselves or have some part time semi retired help move alot of wood
Semi Retired too old and fat to wade thru waist deep snow hand choppin anymore

BargeMonkey

 He cut some pile of wood when he was going. My GF's uncle used to go to the show every yr and take pictures of the parade, im helping her move boxes in the back of a shed and she hands me these photo albums ? I start going thru them and here was Clem when he bought 2x new 820D's, he enjoyed those pictures when i brought them down for him, ive gotten torn up a couple times at that table 😆 yeah he will pause sometimes, go from full French to partial French, just a great man. 

 I can't see how some of these guys are making it, I work 7 days a week and have periods where I do ok, periods where you dont make anything, new irons nice but nothing ive got the banks going to coming to get if im slow. 

ehp

so what does the 660 cross over to in size a JD 848 or what, never really been around one much

BargeMonkey

Yeah it was the 848G for a while. Told the guy with that low hr G3 I was going to spend money this week now he wants to play let's make a deal, not sure what im buying.  Ed im afraid of going in over my head, if I got offered the right chiefs job with the right company I can still park this stuff tomorrow. Had a problem down here a few months ago, I would have let it go, made the guy make it right, my father didn't want to hear it and now its a hornets nest, im not working nights alot because I want to, worried about coming back in the morning to all my stuff burned to the ground, I cant get these 2 jobs done fast enough so my iron goes 1hr away, told the Pakistani to hit a certain # and I want that gas station sold, done with these people. 

ehp

Barge your not telling me something I had kind of figured out in my small weak mind , your not working 7 days a week just because you think its sexy , up here there are deals on machines but I'm just not feeling the love the way everything is going so I had a talk with the 3 of us , me , myself and I and were staying with what we got as far as machines goes , I owe nothing on these so if they have to sit thats not a problem and I'm getting very picky in my old age on what jobs I do , had another job today and said no thanks to . I have done enough of these jobs that really does nothing more than make the land owner alot of money . Things are going to get alot worse before they get better , lumber is at a all time high but we as loggers are not seeing any of that cash, yes I get good coin on stuff that goes into containers but not from my sawmills in this area . Your skidding a long ways so you need to find big skidders that you can bring huge hitches each time . Back in the mid 90's I was in the same boat as you, road cost was just way to much so it was mile to mile and a half skids . I looked at a new clark 668 and some kind of tree length grapple forwarder type machine , I knew the salemen pretty good , forwarder guy told me 364 days a year to break even so 1 day a year it made money so that was off the table pretty fast , the 668 looked good but alot of coin back then and what do you do with it if you can freeze a rd in to where skidding is alot shorter , skidder is just to big and slow . I bought new winch bands for my skidder just in case I need them and another thing happened today, I texted my skidsteer guy and asked if they has any 8 ft wide new angle plows for my machine , price came back at $3500 with everything I wanted , I left him alone and 2 hours later he called me $2350 which I said yes to . This is quite a large dealer and he is scared on whats coming , now you guys I think are in better shape than us cause of how bad we are run up here but I would not stick  my neck out to far unless you are sure you got everything covered

BargeMonkey

Ed you talk to yourself too 😆 I fire myself on a daily basis. Anymore if I cant make reasonable money cutting a job im not even getting involved, let someone else starve to death. By Friday I will have 40k ft of softwood sitting behind me, over 20ld of firewood logs and ship 7-8ld of good logs, on top of hopefully 4ld of pulpwood this week, all by myself.... the deals are around, just got to be ready to jump. I told the guy with the G3 if I buy the skidder hes going to commit to a price on his CLEAN 450J, im so sick of being cold and after buying that 750J I want a cab dozer for the woods. 

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