Probably been discussed many times but here we go again. Anyone done the research or had personal experience using a UTV in a woodlot. Note. I am not wanting to use it to haul logs per se. I have a tractor for that. Mainly just to lug stuff back and forth to and from the woodlot. Occasionally hooking up a small trailer of short logs. Seems like a hundred to chose from. What to avoid. Size wise I'm looking for something on the smaller size. 700cc or less. What have you all liked and disliked? Thanks.
I had an Artic Cat 650XT until last fall, going to replace it with a Teryx 800. Extremely handy for moving tools, saws, couple pails of oil, towed a decent sized wood wagon with it. All depends how much "Utility / Sport" you want, how big you wanna go. The off brand Chinese machines, odd makes / models I would stay right away from unless you can buy it right. Kawasaki, either the Teryx or Mule, Mules are about bulletproof with maintenance. The Yamaha Rhino isn't a bad machine. Whatever you find, Google the model / year and you can find out the good and bad on parts.
I have a Honda Pioneer. They come in 500, 700 and 1,000 cc models. Tough, durable and dependable.
We picked up a Kubota rtv900 diesel for about scrap price a few years ago. Not that much time and not much money and it has done a lot of work but still in relatively rough shape. Use it to pull cage totes of water and sap in the bed and on trailers, small trailer or bed loads of firewood/logs, haul tools and supplies around and a lot of other tasks. To Barge's point it is 100% utility 0% sport. Top speed around 20mph and it is very heavy. Not that great off road but fine on tractor trails. Manual dump bed is good for mulch, sawdust etc. We would not want to be without it now and had no idea how useful it would be. Good luck!
Don't try to save money with the Chinese clones, you WILL pay later. Talk to the dealers and see how comfortable you are with them regarding after sales support, that is more important than brand.
I have a Kubota RTV500 paired with a Sur-Trac 4X8 utility dump trailer. The Kubota bed carries saws, gas and oil, saw tool box, and assorted tools and chains etc. The trailer hauls anything you throw in it and is road worthy as well. Can't recommend either on soft ground, both will sink and rut things up. The trailer does not stockpile loads very well, but is still a labor saver in many ways. The Kubota is NOT a comfy trail machine, more like a two seater garden tractor. Still gets used almost every day.....
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Scott B.
That looks like a nice rig to sneak in and out of the woods.
I happen to have a hisun 500. I disagree with the chinese stuff thoughts. Unfortunately, I have done some pretty surprising research to find my chinese yamaha rhino clone shares the exact same parts that most of the other mfr's do. It actually is the exact same thing as the cub cadet UTV.
I bought it for very reasonable, the only thing holding it together was 3" of mud. the entire front end was destroyed from 4 teenage boys that had no care for the poor thing. the wheel bearing had let go and the wheel rubbed on the knuckle till it wore thought to the point it broke.
My plan was to buy it for the drivetrain and build something else. I ended up buying $300 worth of parts to put it back together and I have never looked back. I absolutely love the machine. it has its quirks from being sunk in the swamp many times and flat out abused but it still runs good and is a lot more powerful than I ever expected.
I bought a 5' plow for it and have always been impressed with the amount of snow that thing will push going up and down my driveway which is 1/4 mile long with a 115' elevation gain. It tops out at about 40 mph on a good day with a tail wind but it has been a solid machine and I don't think I would ever want to be without it.
My only thing I would change is to not have a live rear axle. I cannot drive through the grass and turn with the overly aggressive tires I put on it. at least not without leaving marks.
So in conclusion, as much as I hate the chinese, some things they do are good. and my Hisun is one of them.
I have a 2008 Ranger 6x6, somewhere in the 15000 mile range now. Used, not abused. Can't imagine how many cord of wood its hauled.
Its not been a trouble free machine, Polaris engineering leaves a lot to be desired. Vibration, undersize wiring and using atv componets are the big problems.
I won't buy another Polaris product. Next machine will probably be a Yamaha.
Ed
Kubota RTV probably if there is easy terrain etc. Heard of a US$5K service / fix cost recently on one UTV from one of the other big brands.
Avatar UTVs are used in NZ by some logging contractors as site transport and silvi for tree seedling planters and ladder pruning/ chainsaw thinning etc.
Made by the YTO subsidiary of the Sinomach company(chinese machinery etc conglomerate - small tractors to 30 tonne excavators).
Avatar UTVs use components from the Chinese automotive parts bin. galvanised subframe. Small diesel pickup rear diff, a few different engine types - one option a 3 cylinder diesel, car brakes, car front drive axles, cvt or manual/ foot clutch 5 speed. 50 mph top speed.
(website is a few years out of date, a few more recent entries on fb)
points of difference (http://www.avatar-products.com/PointsofDifference/tabid/106/Default.aspx)
I have a 2020 Ranger 570, I don't pull anything, just carry firewood in the bed. There's no way I'd want a trailer on my roly poly trails, nothing is dozed, just natural ground. I port about 10 cord of split firewood every year out of the woodlot to the pick up truck. The woodlot is 4 miles from the house. I can walk over the natural dips and mounds of the woods when placing the trails in the better locations. Used it the last 3 years and have hauled about 30 cords out. I corduroy wet places. No troubles. It will do what I need for years to come. There is a point when old age ends firewood cut'n even though the machine will still get there. :D
I have an old Hisun Big Muddy and can't complain, it's been better than I expected. I bought a Honda Pioneer on the recommendation of my parts guy/motorcycle mechanic. He's an independent shop and that was the brand he thought was the most trouble free. It gets to live in the garage. The Chino is out in the shed.
I have about a 2010 Kawasaki Mule 4010 4x4. I use it for a little fun, but it is definitely more of a utility vehicle than a sport vehicle. Top speed I believe is 23mph. It has I believe about a 600cc water cooled motor. I use it to carry lumber from the mill either in the 4' bed to stack or I tow a small trailer around. I paid $4200 for it 4 years ago used. Now the same machine is almost twice the money to buy. Mine has a roof and I bought a cheap plastic windshield and zippered door cab enclosure for $40. It has been great. I intended to buy a real windshield for it this winter, but winter never arrived so I didn't bother. I love having the thing. I also use it to take out the trash. Tom @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) uses a Mule extensively.
I've got a 2015 Honda Pioneer 500. It's not gonna win any races, top speed is probably 35-40 and kinda scary at that speed. It is built to the same width as a 4 wheeler. The biggest benefit is that it fits through tight woods with or without a trail. Mine came with no accessories other than a winch. Built a bed and roof out of treated wood/ plywood. This machine will take a beating. Whichever UTV you decide on, get better tires right away.
Another Honda pioneer here. Mine is a model 1000-5 which has 2 fold down rear seats which is handy trail riding with friends and grandkids. Most times have cargo box with liner set up to haul chainsaws, tools etc to sawmill or woods. 2018 purchase and drIven over 3000 miles. Very comfortable ride and 60-65 mph top speed when needed. Would definitely buy another.
I started shopping for a Ranger crew in 2019 and had a pretty good idea of what I wanted as far as options and how it would work for me on my property after test driving a couple. In 2020 one of the dealers called me as he had a couple zero option Ranger 1000 crew models for $12,800 each. I should have jumped on it but ultimately decided it was more than I needed at the time and I had some investments competing with my discretionary spending money. I think it would have been fun but I'm not sure how much work I would have gotten done with it. I'm sure I could have sold it there after for more than I paid, especially since it wouldn't have been used much but it wouldn't have been for nearly the gains I ended up pursuing instead.
We have the Kubota RTV500 here. No wood lot yet, but its been a workhorse. Small enough to get through the woods without too much trouble. It's kinda on the light side. I once got stuck coming up a steep hill in the rain. It didn't dig in, just spun all the tires on top of the ground. Had to walk home that day. A couple days later I walked back and drove it out. I've used it to pull an 8' trailer loaded with firewood, drug trees up out of the woods with it. Nothing sporty about it. Only moves about 25mph top speed. It's over 10 years old now, but it's been rock solid dependable. I would buy it again.
Kubota uses terrible tires. a good set of tires that thing would be unstoppable
Your probably right. The tires are all original and in pretty bad shape. I don't venture out in the rain much with it. I'm hoping they'll last a few more years.
If it is any consolation, Polaris uses crap ones to. I had good ones put on before I brought it home. It's the same with them all, even on pickup trucks, you pay big money and they send it to you with crap tires. I mean, overall, what are they saving? $400? And they'll only give you $50 a tire on exchange. To buy the same tire they want $125. The good ones are at least $225. You loose all the way around, except you got a better tire out of it, but had to pay $300 considering they low ball the original tire price. They know every way to skin a cat. :D
Thanks all. Pressure is on now. Just sold my four wheeler so I'm wheel less. Hopefully not a long wait finding something somewhat local.
You get what you pay for. If you think a Chinese special is as good as a name brand dream on. That's like saying my harbor freight is as good as my Timberking.
You could use a bicycle and a small trailer if just carting stuff back and forth is the objective, lower maintenance and cost too. You didn't mention the size of your woodlot or how far back and forth you'd be looking at traveling, a few hundred yards? A couple miles? I know exercise isn't particularly popular with everyone here but quite a bit can be hauled behind a bicycle with the right trailer and conditioning.
Beyond the way to numerous choices one fact seems to be universal. Once you have one of these, you'll wonder how you ever got by without one. 👍
We have a Kawasaki Mule 600 that I've been real happy with. Picked it up used a couple years ago and it came with a front winch and upgrades rims & tires. Some parts of our woods always stay wet and I've only had to use the winch once to get out. When the going gets tough throw in the dif lock and it will claw through some stuff.
The bed isn't very big but you can get a decent amount of wood in if the tail gate is down and you stack it high. It's not fast or a powerhouse, but real reliable. I've pulled wagons and trailers around and it does ok. Ours gets used hard and has been reliable.
Quote from: bigblockyeti on April 18, 2023, 09:17:33 AM
You could use a bicycle and a small trailer if just carting stuff back and forth is the objective, lower maintenance and cost too. You didn't mention the size of your woodlot or how far back and forth you'd be looking at traveling, a few hundred yards? A couple miles? I know exercise isn't particularly popular with everyone here but quite a bit can be hauled behind a bicycle with the right trailer and conditioning.
Exactly! Why spend 20 to 30 thousand on a new UTV when you could spend 4 to 8 thousand on a electric bike and little trailer. Forgot the exercise and be broke either way 😂.
2010 Kubota RTV 900 here, great for all the-stuff posted here, no issues yet.
regarding tires, same basic tread style as a lot of ATVs , but it has been stuck once as my grandson forgot to put it in fwd.
I built a 3 ft high rack for hauling my firewood and heap it up cab high in the center.
used it for hauling small loads of gravel too.
made a top from a sheet and a half of steel roofing and windshield from polycarbonate, boy am I cheap (frugal?) on some things
sips fuel too.
Quote from: petefrom bearswamp on April 18, 2023, 03:44:12 PMboy am I cheap (frugal?)
I'd rather say imaginative, inventive, or creative. Aftermarket parts aren't cheap.
I picked up a Kubota Sidekick 850 last summer. Took 14 months to get after ordering. Had to replace the stock tires with good ATV 8 ply's and it can carry 1000 pounds through the woods easily. Put a 6 ft plow on it last winter and it handles it well. 40 mph top speed that's plenty for me.
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I saw your question while I was at the project and could not find time to respond until now. I have a Kawasaki Mule 3010 4x4 that I got on a deal because the engine was in 4 carboard boxes (some assembly required) otherwise I could not afford one. It turned out to be a pretty good fit, and like most folks I get the most out of it I can, then push a little further. ;D
I used it quite a bit for skidding logs with an arch and running through the woodlot, collecting log drops, but mostly as a mini tool truck. Chainsaws, gas, axes, tools, chains, and whatever I need for the task of the day. I also use it for EMS patrol work at large music festivals twice a year. I see these type units all over the place and they are as handy as a shirt pocket, as others have said. My buddy down the road has a JD gator 6 wheeler and just got a Bobcat SXS which I use frequently when running around his 60 acres cutting trees, etc.
Here's what I've observed: The terrain matters a lot. We aren't flat here, lots of steep areas, so traction, having 4WD and locking diffs for me is a must have. Huge HP is not a biggie, but it helps. Speed never entered the picture for me, I would never get 'up to speed on any of our woods roads. Yeah, when I am running down the blacktop (short runs) I would want to be quicker, but frankly it doesn't make a difference. Ground clearance can be important. My buddy takes hi SXS's through swaps and over stumps and logs that my Mule would not handle at all. Mine is more of a trail machine that I take off into the brush, but it don't have a lot of clearance, so just consider that. Suspension matters too if you are doing very rough terrain driving, which again, I do not, but my buddy does all the time.
A lot of 'stuff' can be added to these machines and modifications can be made all over, it just depends on what you need. I have stuff on mine like the light bar on the roof that I rarely use, but when you need it, it's dang handy. I have DOT windshield with a wiper, heater, winch, hard doors (which I take off in the spring and replace in fall) and a hard cab. All these add weight but have benefits. I also do all my home plowing with it and it does well until we hit a foot of wet snow.
The new ones are quite pricey. I searched for mine for over a year until I found a basket case. It took me a couple of weeks in the evenings to get the engine rebuilt and running. After that, I can't figure how I got by without it. I used it for everything. Lots of parts are cheap in aftermarket, some things are never cheap. The drive clutches, front and rear diffs, and other major components can make you choke. (I paid about $650. for a used front differential when my gears blew up.) Tires ain't cheap either but good ones will last a long time when not used on pavement much. I think I paid $500. when I did all four, and yeah, those tires better have similar wear and diameters, that's how I blew the diff out.
Bottom line, think about where you drive, what you are gonna do with it, and what your terrain is. Then pick something that fits your needs. Personally, although I have never owned or driven one, I kind of like the Polaris machines, but have no knowledge about them AT ALL. I just like the power range, ground clearance, and suspension. They work very well for around here.
Best of luck, let us know how you make out.
I have one of the original UTVs, a Deere AMT626. I paid $450 for it with a worn out engine. We did a transplant on it with a GX390 clone and never looked back. I remember my wife asking "why'd you buy THAT!" but now she thinks it's indispensable. Not pretty, not sexy, but does anything you ask of it.
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Neighbor had one he was restoring, but life got in the way and no longer had any working income to do stuff. Then he passed away this winter.
I see them for sale from time to time for $4-$5K. I just shake my head. And still - mine is not for sale ::)
I know there isn't a lot of love for Chinese made stuff, but anyone have any experience with CF Moto? The new 600 checks all the boxes for me. It seems to review well as far as I can find. The dealer is very close to me. And the price is decent.
UTVs are incredibly popular here in New Zealand, both on the farm and in the forests. Just buy a solid, trusted brand.
Had a moto dune buggy for my daughter. Only 150cc but actually overbilt for that small motor. Quality good.
I have a can am defender 6x6. I'm blown away by what it can do every time I have it out. Endless traction.
I keep meaning to add a powered lift cylinder to the dump bed and make a mini dump truck out of it.
Let's see a picture of the bad boy
Whatever unit you get remember they are dangerous! Especially with kids! Just got off the phone about a hydraulic winch I bought that I need to go pick up I won on a bid a couple weeks ago. I had got a email on a family emergency about items to be picked up delay. I had talked to him before in a long good conversation before the tragic news. I'm sure the guy didn't feel like talking to nobody so I kept it short. He lost his son. He was driving their Polaris Ranger had a accident and wasn't wearing a seatbelt and didn't survive.
That's horrible...we have a local family whose son was killed in a UTV almost a year ago. Similar circumstances, ino seatbelt, it rolled and the rops got him😢
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This thing is surprisingly smooth on trails. When one rear tire falls in a hole, the other is still on level ground.
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I had to winch out of this mud pit. Working on old skidder trails on my property has been a nightmare. I have a mountain of rock with few areas where you can go between the rocks. So these funnels are where all the water travels, and it's also where they ran equipment to log. I had some ruts 3 feet deep, and when trying to smooth things out I disturbed the soil and it turned to muck. Lesson learned there. Still not sure the best approach to "fix" these roads is. I can't really divert the water, so maybe some pipe or drain tile and then fill on top?
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I was able to get most of the framing for my 12x16 cabin the bed of this thing in one go and haul it back to my cabin site. In this picture I'm loading all the material that dumped out of the back of my truck when I got stuck and slid sideways in the snow.
Sounds like it's been a workhorse! I have been looking at the 6x6 atv version of your make. I like what I hear about how they perform. I've got a Polaris General 1000 and it's a workhorse but there just isn't enough room in the box part for anything without always being a issue. The room you have in the box would be incredible for sure
The Ranger I have won't let you go very fast without a seat belt on. But don't have to be fast for an accident to happen.
Quote from: wbrent on April 19, 2023, 03:38:31 PM
I know there isn't a lot of love for Chinese made stuff, but anyone have any experience with CF Moto? The new 600 checks all the boxes for me. It seems to review well as far as I can find. The dealer is very close to me. And the price is decent.
No personal experience but I will tell you that a month ago I stopped by to say hello to the Honda dealer who is an old business acquaintance and we were chatting about sales and I asked him what he does with all the trade-ins as there were only a couple of used machines there, he said he just keeps the newer Hondas that are in very good condition and a used ATV dealer further up the province buys all of the rest that he does not want....... except the CF Motos he won't buy them.
That pretty much tells you about the junk no names....
Look at mahindra if you want something big. the beds on those machines are very nice!!!
edit, apparently trying to find info on the mahindra UTV's is not easy unless you want a roxor.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on April 21, 2023, 04:29:10 PM
The Ranger I have won't let you go very fast without a seat belt on. But don't have to be fast for an accident to
The problem is they sell a by pass plug that will disable that for 20 bucks at the dealers. You could still wear the seat belt. Accidents happen way more than people think
I don't bi-pass safety. I'm also wondering if insurance will decline your claim on such a vehicle? It leaves an opportunity there for sure.
I have a kubota rtv 1100 fold down rear seat or 5' power dump bed. For around the mill it's amazing. Not a day trip trail machine tho.
My Pioneer doesn't have the seat belt speed limiter, but newer ones do. Whatever you go with, I highly recommend getting decent skid plates underneath. I'm on my third set I think. They definitely protect the parts that need protecting and gives a little insurance when going over logs or questionable stuff.
Quote from: wbrent on April 15, 2023, 06:21:08 AM
Probably been discussed many times but here we go again. Anyone done the research or had personal experience using a UTV in a woodlot. Note. I am not wanting to use it to haul logs per se. I have a tractor for that. Mainly just to lug stuff back and forth to and from the woodlot. Occasionally hooking up a small trailer of short logs. Seems like a hundred to chose from. What to avoid. Size wise I'm looking for something on the smaller size. 700cc or less. What have you all liked and disliked? Thanks.
You may have already pulled the trigger on your purchase but thought I would add my 2 cents to the conversation. I was in the same situation several months ago and narrowed my choices down to JD Gator and Kawasaki Mule. Original 1st preference was the Gator but whatever it was had to be preowned as I wasn't going to shell out for new one. After a lot of looking and tire kicking I settled on a 2022 4010 Kawasaki Mule with 135 hous on the clock. It checked the boxes of: fairly large bed, 4WD, differential lock, high and low range, low hours, windshield and bench seating. My needs are for a farm/ranch vehicle and speed is a non issue. I don't need to or want to go fast anyway. It works particularly well for firewood work and hauls all of the necessary tools and then some. I paid more than I had wanted to even used but all lower priced machines I looked at had been "rode hard and put up wet". I can echo the other's comments on usefulness and wish that I had purchased one 20 years ago. I would be surprised if this unit ever sees one time use on pavement. Good luck with your search.
Edit: The other determining factor was parts availability and the Gator and Kawasaki checked off that box too.
Ended up with a 2021 Kawasaki Mule. So far I think it will serve my purposes perfectly.
Congrats! Post a pic when you get a chance, please....
Scott B.
You've probably got lots lined up for work with that new buggy. ;D
Was just changing front drive and rear transmission fluid this morning, but before I change the rear transmission oil I need another 1/4 quart to be able to do the job. So be next weekend before the job is done. These Rangers need those oils changed every 100 hr or 1000 miles according to the book.
looked at a 2019 Sidekick 850 today 184 hours 700 miles with winch heavy duty lug tires front bumper $11000 dont know of any other extras. anything to watch for Does price sound reasonable? Looks in very good shape.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on May 06, 2023, 10:16:35 AM
You've probably got lots lined up for work with that new buggy. ;D
Was just changing front drive and rear transmission fluid this morning, but before I change the rear transmission oil I need another 1/4 quart to be able to do the job. So be next weekend before the job is done. These Rangers need those oils changed every 100 hr or 1000 miles according to the book.
Just remember those intervals are based on extreme use. For people that beat the crap out of their machines and submerge them on a regular basis.
Ed
Just following the Polaris maintenance schedule. Doesn't hurt since I travel over uneven terrain a lot porting firewood. Not a fast ride, just a methodical one. :D They do say in brackets (1600 miles), I assume not used as hard. I'll stick with the 1000 mile mark. Mines never drove in creeks or mud holes.
My little son , ya the 13 year old thats now 6 ft 4 inches tall wants a bigger 4 wheeler but really wants a new side by side so been looking around but the prices are quite wild , About $40 grand once you add all the taxes and other stuff . We will see if we get something but got to buy something for him, he has a polaris 450 HO but we went and looked at canam commander, polaris general and yamaha Rmax
Quote from: trapper on May 29, 2023, 12:23:40 AM
looked at a 2019 Sidekick 850 today 184 hours 700 miles with winch heavy duty lug tires front bumper $11000 dont know of any other extras. anything to watch for Does price sound reasonable? Looks in very good shape.
I have a 2022 and love mine. Only have about 100 miles around the yard on it. The biggest problem that I heard of with the early ones was the gas pedal linkage was very touchy making them jumpy at takeoff. I think a recall fixed that. Take it for a ride and see how it drives and see if there are maintenance records that used Kubota parts. Only downside is parts and accessories are quite expensive from Kubota ad there isn't much aftermarket for them. Most come with a bumper but there was a very cheap model that didn't come with a bumper, tilt steering wheel, glove box door, and several other items. $10,500 was what the worksite model withthe bumper and add-ons cost new in 19 with rebates but now they have jumped over 15k new. I definitely would buy mine again.
I paid half that price for a Ranger 570 in 2020. A put tires, winch, side rockers, rear bumper, steal roof and windshield, and front brush guard on mine. If you pay $40,000 it better be road legal. :D
Ed, you said you thought I had money like Barge, all I know is there's no money in the kitty for a $40K sxs for me😁
Quote from: barbender on May 31, 2023, 07:44:05 AM
Ed, you said you thought I had money like Barge, all I know is there's no money in the kitty for a $40K sxs for me😁
That's the donkey making up numbers read my post. Maybe $13,500 converted to Canadian money with inflation ;D . For 40k I got a real Ranger. My 22 Ford Ranger. That's only One load of logs for you 8).
Ed said $40,000 , I just retyped what he said. You need to look back a couple posts. ;D Those are for money men, and that ain't me. But what I do have is paid for free and clear. :D
Everything I have is on the payment plan, one payment 8), sorry I was brought up with if I cannot pay for it then I do not need it . One of my friends bought a northstar crew fully loader with snow plow $68,000 for that thing . Have to see but I'm not liking these numbers that my kid does so he could be driving a new bigger 4 wheeler . Now if I honestly had Barbender coin I would buy each of us in my family one of the nice side by sides so we could drive alone and not have to listen to the others but sadly that is not the case here
Haha the closest I have to a side by side is a 98 Jeep Grand Cherokee😁
I ended buying a cheap Arctic Cat Prowler 500. Just need it to move people around with small tools. When shopping it was easy to get envious for the larger gear. Had to do the ol' need vs want analysis. :D
I got to buy him something to drive , Sold the polaris 450 HO so now onto bigger and faster bikes that cost alot more money , Just got home tonight from taking the 11 year old to motocross training , He goes for 2 hours at least per week and he asked me tonight how we can afford for him to do this and I just told him the truth , this stuff is the reason I get up and leave by 6 or so and most night are not back home by 6 or 7 and lots of weeks its 7 days a week , we are not rich but were doing ok
Well said! He will remember that later in life.
For what it's worth on the UTV six seaters. When I went riding around on a farm yesterday the listing agent had a Can-Am full cab unit with air conditioning we were riding around in and while it was very luxurious and the air conditioning worked great at 90 he said when he can afford it down the road he will go back to the Polaris. He said the Polaris just had more power and could flat out go through the mud and rugged terrain better between the two six seaters.
I've been in the market looking but not ordering for a couple of years. The polaris dealer has 3 machines due to come in June. I'm supposed to get the first call on a six seater that is supposed to be first delivered. If Suzuki made a side by side I'd buy one because of proven service from their atvs we have. I talked with the guy who services and fixes my machines and he said that he does not like working on Can ams. His recommendation was JD green sxs or Honda. I don't want to deal with one and the Honda doesn't have enclosed cab. And the rops look heinous. His father, who is also a retired mechanic, has over 70 thousand miles on a Honda side x side.
I have a Polaris and a CanAm SxS. They both do what I have asked them to do. The polaris is a '17 model and the CanAm is '22. There's things I like and dislike about both of them.
I'm going to wait a few more weeks to see what deals if any come this way , Boy has a polaris general all picked out but I told him that's $40 grand plus once all the taxes are in , He just says so , I told him I am not Barge or Barbender so its a lot to me . That is more than I really want to spend on a toy
Buying a teen a Polaris General is wrong on so many levels. Even if you have major lottery winnings in your checking account.
Yes I agree. Here's a pedal bike kid. Go get em. Find a job you can ride it to. Save up for his own polaris someday
Boy wants it, let him know how to go get it :snowball:
Quote from: beenthere on June 06, 2023, 08:36:42 PM
Boy wants it, let him know how to go get it :snowball:
He'll thank you in 15-20 years and it'll serve him well for the rest of his life. 👍
The only bike I had given to me was a tricycle, from then on every bicycle, and every motorized vehicle I bought and paid for. I've worked since I was 7, first on the end of a potato basket. Sometimes the old man was the bank, but he was paid.
I remember an old lady in her 90's. She came from a family that was evicted from Gagetown where the government set up an army base. She talked about that the last few years of her life. Families had to leave and buildings left standing became canon fodder over the years. She said before that episode, her grandfather was like a banker, made loans and charged interest. In those times farming was pretty prosperous and farmers had money because they had good markets, this was before depression years. She looked after 3 old senior aunts, one had money of her own, another inherited money from an old widow who had no family to leave her fortune to. They were all old by this time and they all went to bed to be looked after and catered to. The old lady herself was a school teacher and very frugal, during the depression she told the husband that he had to walk to work since he worked in town and there was no need to burn gas all week when he could walk. :D
There is definitely a difference in those raised in the depression era. My one grandmother especially, never had much money. She worked a lit of different jobs, cleaning and caretaking and just making enough to get by. But when she passed away she left a pretty good savings to her kids, she was just a real frugal, saver type.
Her eldest grandson did not inherit this trait🤷😂
Quote from: ehp on June 06, 2023, 03:26:37 PM
I'm going to wait a few more weeks to see what deals if any come this way , Boy has a polaris general all picked out but I told him that's $40 grand plus once all the taxes are in , He just says so , I told him I am not Barge or Barbender so its a lot to me . That is more than I really want to spend on a toy
Has he seen the Polaris Xpedition ? They look pretty nice. Going to have to dig a little deeper in the pockets for it. https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/polaris-xpedition/ (https://www.polaris.com/en-us/off-road/polaris-xpedition/)
Quote from: trapper on May 29, 2023, 12:23:40 AM
looked at a 2019 Sidekick 850 today 184 hours 700 miles with winch heavy duty lug tires front bumper $11000 dont know of any other extras. anything to watch for Does price sound reasonable? Looks in very good shape.
I just found out there is a serious problem with mine. Did the 20 hour service and there was about a cup and a half of gas in the oil along with a white powder that settles out. Turns out the Subaru engines / now Kubota in them have an oil dilution problem. Kubota is involved and they know its a problem but say it is normal. They said the only solution is to warm them up atleast 15 minutes before using them and to just leave them idle instead of shutting off for short periods. It's the only way to evaporate all the gas from the oil that is normal operation with them. Boy am I mad at Kubota for hiding this info from buyers. Probably why so many used ones are showing up on the market. My dealer says they are working with Kubota and have heard a rumor that Kubota may be working on a new intake manifold but Kubota denies it. They are trying to have Kubota analyze the oil I saved but I think Kubota is trying to hide this issue. If they do nothing mine will be going down the road right before the warranty ends. Definitely check the oil for contamination and that year the engines were made by Subaru before Kubota bought the tooling so it may be different.
just bought a polaris ranger 570 sp I stepped up to the premium model because it includes a Full-Body Skid Plate, and power steering I am hoping the power steering will get my wife to use it Her arms hurt when using the atv I got the 2 seat midsize unit which I feel will suit my needs better than a Fullsize model.
I wish mine had power steering its hard to drive after a long day or when bouncing over tree roots
oil test 2.jpegoil test 1.jpegJust want to update this with the oil analysis reports from my sidekick oil that Kubota is saying is normal for these machines even though at concernable levels. Seems to be a common problem now and Kubota has come up with the term short tripping as the cause. Running them 20 to 30 minutes minimum after each start is their solution to evaporate the gas that gets in the oil at startup. Kubota has no way to debug the Subaru engines. One just blew up at 400 hours from this and Kubota won't cover it over on the tractor forum. These machines are junk.
Kicking around the getting a Polaris Ranger 6x6 or Canam Defender 6x6 to pull a small 4x8 foot local built dump trailer that I will load with wood debris from thinning operations with my minnie excavator. Haul to central locations and pile with the excavator for burning. typical haul distance is 40 to 50 yards. The 2000-3000 pound suggested trailer capacity is pretty appealing. I have done some work like this with my Honda Rubicon quad but it doesn't have the weight/traction to pull any trailer weight in any kind of adverse direction
My 2011 Polaris Ranger motor shot its wad a couple weeks ago. I' seriously considering replacing it with a 90s model Jeep Wrangler.
Well I got good news today. Kubota has reviewed my case and they have offered to replace my machine. Apparently they want mine back for testing and working on a fix for this issue. I was offered a 2024 that is supposed to have the issue fixed. I asked my dealer if there was anyway I could switch to the diesel model because I just don't want to take a chance on another gas machine and it looks like he will allow me to pay the difference in price between the 2 and handle the swap on his end. What a surprise after months of being denied a solution. It seems like the new dealer rep was the one that got this done and he actually cares about about the customers. Wow, I just can't believe this. Thanks Kubota. Sure pays to have a dealer that fights for you and is on your side. Definitely avoid buying a used one until they have a fix.
Quote from: 21incher on March 22, 2024, 02:42:02 PMWell I got good news today. Kubota has reviewed my case and they have offered to replace my machine. Apparently they want mine back for testing and working on a fix for this issue. I was offered a 2024 that is supposed to have the issue fixed. I asked my dealer if there was anyway I could switch to the diesel model because I just don't want to take a chance on another gas machine and it looks like he will allow me to pay the difference in price between the 2 and handle the swap on his end. What a surprise after months of being denied a solution. It seems like the new dealer rep was the one that got this done and he actually cares about about the customers. Wow, I just can't believe this. Thanks Kubota. Sure pays to have a dealer that fights for you and is on your side. Definitely avoid buying a used one until they have a fix.
That's great news but they should give you the difference for your troubles and down time losses
Quote from: oldgraysawyer on March 22, 2024, 02:44:41 PMQuote from: 21incher on March 22, 2024, 02:42:02 PMWell I got good news today. Kubota has reviewed my case and they have offered to replace my machine. Apparently they want mine back for testing and working on a fix for this issue. I was offered a 2024 that is supposed to have the issue fixed. I asked my dealer if there was anyway I could switch to the diesel model because I just don't want to take a chance on another gas machine and it looks like he will allow me to pay the difference in price between the 2 and handle the swap on his end. What a surprise after months of being denied a solution. It seems like the new dealer rep was the one that got this done and he actually cares about about the customers. Wow, I just can't believe this. Thanks Kubota. Sure pays to have a dealer that fights for you and is on your side. Definitely avoid buying a used one until they have a fix.
That's great news but they should give you the difference for your troubles and down time losses
That would be nice, but I am just happy to have this problem behind me a week before the warranty runs out. Hopefully it will also lead to a fix for others.
I've got my boat up for sale and if it sales I plan to buy a Utility SXS. I don't need anything really fast and will use it mostly around the place and maybe to visit close neighbors,run to the mailbox and pull a small trailer hauling firewood.The law is pretty forgiving if they are ran short distances on the main road to get from one hollow to another.Just wondering if I should buy a cheaper new one or a larger used one.Don't really want to spend over about $12,000.Also how many miles or hours would be considered excessive on a used one that has been taken care of? I kind of favor Yamaha as I've had good service from 4 wheelers and motorcycles but I'm sure others would be good also.Also is power steering needed?Glad to hear you got your issue resolved 21incher.
got power steering so my wife could use it glad I did. think about where you will use it. I got the narrower 2 person one and glad I did. Much easier to get thru the woods. Still had to widen my atv trails.
Bill,
We just got a Polaris, diesel, utility sxs at work. It does not have power steering and is a real bear to turn at any speed
I have a 2020 Polaris Ranger 570 it's 62" wide, I didn't get power steering. Never regretted it at all. Sure, it's nice to have, no question about that. I don't need it, so save the coin. Just like I don't need an enclosed cab and heater and all the other stuff. I've got brush guards all around. Been great machine for me. Brought home a load of split fir firewood this morning from a blow down. Shoulda had one 20 years ago. :D
I bought a yamaha X2 1000 side by side last fall , It came with a good winch and good shocks and tires , Its smaller than the Rmax but same motor so its goes ok, It gets around pretty good in the bush as its abit narrower than the Rmax , I got the 2 seater so I can carry stuff in the box plus it was a fair bit cheaper than a Rmax
I just bought a 2022 Honda Pioneer 1000, new off the lot for 4000$ less than a 2024. I have a specific use for it to beach launch a small boat that I own, and maybe around the ranch here for chores. I am having issues with finding the right covered trailer to house it and still be able to open the door to get out of the UTV while inside. It is 72 X 120 and about 72 tall, so for me it is bigger than what I wanted, needed, but the wife loves it for the comfort aspect. I never thought I'd even look at something like this but I'll figure out the trailer thing and it will be a blast zipping down the beach to clamming spots up north.
I'm having problems with my right shoulder to the point that I can't ride my 4 wheeler on a very long ride and it does have power steering.Have never driven a SXS so didn't know if I could steer a non power steering one with mostly one arm.
Power steering is like hyd. on a mill. Can you get by with out it? Yes. Will it be easier and more enjoyable if you get it? Yes.
Quote from: sawguy21 on April 15, 2023, 11:44:58 AMDon't try to save money with the Chinese clones, you WILL pay later.
This is true.
We did the "Mud Buggy" tour in the Cook Islands. it was a "Island Redneck" operation, with old Chnese offroad buggies. We were warned not to rely on the brakes, as they probably wont work. The "road legal" part of the tour had buggies with at least ONE of the brakes working, One of the wheels fell off before the session started, and the drivers seat fell out of another one. (they replaced them)
Thing is me and Taylor were the only buggy that actually made it back to base. ffcheesy We were head to toe with mud, because you don't lift the pedal when you hit the mud. ffcheesy
"Base" was a shed above the swamp, full of scrapped scooters and ATVs. The crew had about an hour to get the buggies mobile again before the afternoon tour.
But it was great fun. The guys running the tour knew the buggies were crap, but they had spares and just kept patching them up.
I have a 2016 Honda Pioneer 700 that has been absolutely bullet proof. Prior to that I had a 2005 (I think) Polaris 700cc side-by-side that was also completely trouble-free. I work them hard: disking up foodplots; hauling firewood; stones; etc. But I don't abuse them and I do all the maintenance myself ... on or before schedule.
I don't have any first-hand experience with the other brands. A neighbour has a Kubota diesel side by side. His complaint is that it is very heavy. He has had it hopelessly mired to the axles on more than one occasion. He blames the buggy; I tell him it's operator error. :wink_2:
I do not have power steering in mine. It is an option I would definitely want on the next one. without power steering you can steer with one hand but trying to make tight turns is a 2 handed operation.
I hate to say it but if you look at all of the sxs and UTV on the market everyone one of them is either made in china or mostly made in china. the trick is to not buy the ones that are super dirt cheap.
My UTV is a hisun, it has been an amazing machine, it pushes snow better than I ever thought it could and the only issues I have had with it was from the 4 teenage boys that beat it like it owed them money before I bought it.
The funny thing is my hisun matches the cub cadet right down to the seats that are in it. Runnings just started carrying the exact same one with a different badge on it. But once again, it is identical to the hisun.
Would I buy one of them? Absolutely! I have been very happy and amazed at what this thing will do. it is only a 500 single but it runs and drives great. I wouldn't want to be without it it plows better than my tractor or a truck and is much easier to get unstuck when I stick it.
I see some in-town running around. Some pay over $20,000+ for them. I don't have a use for them. Too much of a toy to do what I do here. There is a bunch in town who ride around in the woods and get drunk all the time. They do stay on their 300-acre playground most times. ffcheesy
I don't know if you can get a DWI with them or not.
One thing to look for in a side by side is that the machine has engine breaking. It keeps the cvt belt engaged so it doesn't freewheel when letting off the accelerator. I found it to be important with a load of firewood going downhill or pulling a trailer. Most have it, but there are also many of the lower end models that don't. Power steering is a must on heavier machines. Usually it applies more assist at lower speeds and less as you go faster for stability. Lighter machines don't always need it.
Good brakes negates engine braking, which isn't going to stop you anyway. Engine breaking is a nice to have, it saves you from braking when you want to coast along slower. Again not needed with good brakes. Never need engine breaking here, the woodlot is dead flat so I don't hardly ever use a brake except a quick full stop if turning or something or backing up to the bed of the truck. Nothing I need.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 25, 2024, 08:43:15 AMGood brakes negates engine braking, which isn't going to stop you anyway. Engine breaking is a nice to have, it saves you from braking when you want to coast along slower. Again not needed with good brakes. Never need engine breaking here, the woodlot is dead flat so I don't hardly ever use a brake except a quick full stop if turning or something or backing up to the bed of the truck. Nothing I need.
Engine braking will almost stop the Sidekick going down hill. If you're on flat ground, doesn't really matter.
Got the replacement today and it actually has wet brakes all around. They dropped it off and I have a couple days to get everything switched over from the old one. Spent the whole day tearing wiring out, changing tires, removing the plow and winch, all the strobe lights and backup camera. Forgot how much stuff I added to it. The new RTV-X is a totally different animal. Slow and very smooth. The hydrostatic drive really pulls nice and is not jerky like a CVT. About half as noisy as the gas and for some reason has a power dump bed ffcheesy. Luckily same roll cage as the gas so roof, windshield, and back window swap right over. Hopefully this one will last.
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Old on the rt and new on the left. Look almost identical but the new one has a diesel engine that has been around for years and only goes 25 mph.
Glad to see they came through for you.
Nice toy.....I mean tool. :thumbsup:
Quote from: oldgraysawyer on March 25, 2024, 08:55:48 PMGlad to see they came through for you.
Nice toy.....I mean tool. :thumbsup:
I was lucky they finally stepped up and offered a replacement. I was afraid to try another Subaru engine machine that they claim has been fixed for 2024 so my dealer worked out a deal where I just had to pay the 2k price difference between the 2 to switch to diesel. I think the diesel machines are fairly bullet proof. I definitely got a post pandemic Lemon.
Glad you got squared up with them on a replacement.
We went through it with a tractor implement. Took several months of wrangling and there was no free replacement just a discount on a new one. It's not just about the dealer, it's about which of their satellite shops you want to avoid. ffcheesy ffcheesy
What I dislike about engine brakes is when travelling on decent woods roads, when you let off the accelerator, you have to deal with the buggy decelerating too quickly. I want to coast along. I hate the constant deceleration/acceleration motion depending on whether your foot is on the peddle or not. I think the only likelihood of nearly stopping on a hill with engine braking is at the very bottom where the slope changes, especially loaded or trailer behind loaded.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on March 26, 2024, 04:47:38 AMGlad you got squared up with them on a replacement.
We went through it with a tractor implement. Took several months of wrangling and there was no free replacement just a discount on a new one. It's not just about the dealer, it's about which of their satellite shops you want to avoid. ffcheesy ffcheesy
What I dislike about engine brakes is when travelling on decent woods roads, when you let off the accelerator, you have to deal with the buggy decelerating too quickly. I want to coast along. I hate the constant deceleration/acceleration motion depending on whether your foot is on the peddle or not. I think the only likelihood of nearly stopping on a hill with engine braking is at the very bottom where the slope changes, especially loaded or trailer behind loaded.
I had been working on this for a couple months. That Kubota Cares division that is supposed to get involved with problems was useless. Neither the dealer or I could get an answer and they kept saying it was a normal problem for the Subaru engines. Well just like mine more started popping up on other forums and I think that started getting attention with the threads about this receiving record number of views. I finally got mad and contacted NY to see if it fell under any consumer or lemon laws but off road vehicles like atvs, dirt bikes, and snowmobiles are exempt from them all. I sent emails to every Kubota location manager in the US and also tried to get one to the CEO in Japan, but that never made it. All of a sudden Kubota sent in a new rep to my dealership and a couple days later they want my machine back. Sounds like it will be used for testing a fix. I think being bad from the start got their attention. Most others seem to make it past 100 hours before getting bad.
You are really going to like the diesel :thumbsup:
Swamp there is a "coast valve" that can be put in these if I remember correctly, or maybe it is already there and can be adjusted, so that you don't have such harsh engine braking.
Hydrostatic transmissions shut down (stop forward/reverse motion) quickly, but that isn't "engine braking". just sayin... different from a geared transmission.
Yes it is different. Mine's belt drive which I like because I can coast along without being under power and not be jerked forward when my foot is off the peddle. A more enjoyable ride.
Interesting how people's needs and perceptions vary. I searched for a UTV with good, predictable engine braking for use in our hilly area. i don't want to have to constantly ride the brakes on long downhills. I ended up buying a lightly used 2022 Honda Pioneer 520. (no belt drive at all, selectable automatic or manual "paddle shifting" transmission.)
I wanted something smaller and lighter than my tractor so I could get in to tighter spaces as well as getting out in my woods out with my gear and get some work done when conditions might still be too soft for my tractor. I'm happy with it.
It's only rated to tow 1000#, but if I have a big job to do, I'm bringing my tractor anyway, so I don't find the 1000# limit to be a problem.
Quote from: beenthere on March 26, 2024, 12:01:11 PMHydrostatic transmissions shut down (stop forward/reverse motion) quickly, but that isn't "engine braking". just sayin... different from a geared transmission.
Yes the hydrostatic transmission is a total different animal. It will hold back the speed but it is not recommended to use to stop. That's why they put wet brakes on my new one that don't fade quickly on a hill.
Yes sorry not exactly "engine braking" but it's a term everyone understands I think.
It is steep everywhere here and I love the " Hydrostatic transmissions shut down (stop forward/reverse motion) quickly " function so have not messed with it but did just look it up and you can either buy an aftermarket valve or adjust the spring tension on the stock one if you live somewhere flat rayrock
Interesting that it is not recommended to use to stop, there really isn't an option-- if you take your foot off the accelerator pedal on mine or any of the older RTV900 you will come to a STOP! and fast. I wonder if people complained too much and they dialed this back on the newer models? Either way, enjoy the new ride and glad you got it sorted.
I sold my boat and got a fair price for it so now I'm going to buy a SxS before I spend all my boat money. I thought about buying a new one but the dealers tack on a bunch of extra fees so the price gets pretty steep.I've found two Honda Pioneers that I want to look at.Both are 700's and have less than 2000 miles and according to pictures look almost new.Neither have power steering but I found some kits for around $700 to add it.Anyone have any experience with them?
I have a 2014 Pioneer 700. I use it everyday for something. Mostly hauling firewood. Its been pretty much bulletproof. Likes rear brakes and probably put a set on every 4 months or so is the only quirky thing I can think of.
No power steering but don't need it. Turns easily even with a plow on the front.
Thanks for the info,Maybe I won't need power steering and I'll check brakes.
I have been looking at new tractors recently but am seeing a lot of newer lower hour ones up for sale that would save me 3k alone on sales tax. My biggest worry is how do you verify if a newer machine has a lien on it when paying cash? Most motor vehicle have titles that record liens but tractors seem to just come with a certificate of origin and many are financed but no paper trail. At this point I have lost trust in people telling the truth and wondering if there is a way to check and verify you aren't getting stuck with a used financed machine. Is there a registry of liens on tractors somewhere that could be used to check?
If it is a newer one you can get the serial number and run it at the dealer. That will also transfer the warranty for some makes.
Quote from: LeeB on March 04, 2024, 04:32:00 PMMy 2011 Polaris Ranger motor shot its wad a couple weeks ago. I' seriously considering replacing it with a 90s model Jeep Wrangler.
Now there is a comment I resemble. I have been kicking around the idea of a new UTV of some sort and would prefer one with a larger bed, power dump at that. Have considered a larger bed UTV or even a 6-wheel UTV. AND... scrapping all of that and just buy an old compact pickup 4wd, pretty much the smallest I could find. This would be for hauling firewood out of my woodlot via my trail network. I have been smoothing out some of the trail turns, lessening the bends. A small 4wd pickup could navigate and cost a fraction of what a UTV would cost. Problem is, I hate to buy a piece of junk. I am tired of working on broke down old equipment, lol. But... still considering this idea. I can buy new, I have the budget set aside, but it just makes me mad these things are so expensive. But, heck, trucks are, too.
As for power steering, I have two used Gators I bought over the years, a diesel 850d and a gasoline TX. The gasoline is super easy to steer, the diesel is hard to turn. I like easy to turn for sure!
I like what I bought , it gets around pretty good in the bush , it has power steering and its like driving a car, has engine braking and can haul 2500 pounds which that weight better be on wheels cause that is way more than what the machine weighs , not fast but is suppose to do 70 mph but pretty hard to go that fast in the bush lol
Quote from: 21incher on March 31, 2024, 10:06:31 AMI have been looking at new tractors recently but am seeing a lot of newer lower hour ones up for sale that would save me 3k alone on sales tax. My biggest worry is how do you verify if a newer machine has a lien on it when paying cash? Most motor vehicle have titles that record liens but tractors seem to just come with a certificate of origin and many are financed but no paper trail. At this point I have lost trust in people telling the truth and wondering if there is a way to check and verify you aren't getting stuck with a used financed machine. Is there a registry of liens on tractors somewhere that could be used to check?
My first suggestion to you would be to check with the town clerks office in the town the "toy" you are eyeing is in.
Second suggestion; is to contact the tractor manufacturer's finance department.
Third; see if the dealer that sold it is willing to tell you if it was financed and if so by who.
As you are probably well aware, if there is a lien, the lien holder could repossess it from you.
Good luck,
GAB
Sounds like a big machine with 2500 lb capacity. Way beyond my needs. But as I always say, get the one you want, then you can't blame anyone else. ffcheesy ffcool
I have 500 lb payload and 1500 lb towing on mine. It's still 62" wide. No complaints. I'm in for the long haul.
Mine is not that big , mine was to be 61 or 62 inches wide but I think its abit more than that , I got the same engine as the rmax so 108 hp , but im narrower and lighter and a touch shorter . I was looking at the general 1000 but this is very close and 10 or so grand less up here so I bought it
Yeah I think the Ranger 1000 has 1000 payload and 2500 towing, it's a big machine. Probably $10,000 more these days. I got mine under the wire because the next year they went up in price big time.
I've been through an ordeal but I finally bought a utv.I had a pretty decent boat that didn't get used hardly any since my wife had her second stroke and have been wanting to sell it but the ad bulletin we used to have to around here to sell stuff on is gone and everyone said to put it on Marketplace. I didn't really know what I was doing but my son showed me a little bit.Had to join Facebook to use the Marketplace and I didn't really want to do that.Anyway I did and after taking a bunch of pictures and answering a hundred questions I got what I was wanting for boat and I figured while I was signed up might as well look for a SxS.Finally found a pretty nice Honda Pioneer 700 at a price I could afford using boat money.Brought it home today with no mishaps except for a missing ratchet strap but machine was still on trailer.Me and my wife took it for a little run and I think I'm going to like it.It really rides good and tops out at around 43mph.Went up a pretty steep gas line right of way with no trouble and feels stable. I also put a little wood on the porch with it as we have another cold spell.It doesn't have power steering but I can add it for around url=https://forestryforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=353346](https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/68995/BDC8C542-9539-412C-BE91-9DB430AA51C6.jpeg)[/url]700.Going to run it awhile and see if I need it.I think the older fella I got it from kept up on maintenance and he kept records of it.
Looks like the fella hardly ran it at all. :thumbsup:
Congratulations, nice one. They are very handy. I'm going to have to sign up with Facebook just to use that marketplace. Craigslist is switching to a lot of spam lately. I made up a list of a couple hundred things to get rid of this year that we no longer need. Hate to do it but it seems to be the best audience for moving things these days.
I have zero interest of being on FaceSpace but the marketplace is a big draw. I agree with you, Craigslist isn't what it once was
We use Kijiji up here, never had any trouble except someone who wanted warranty on a used washer. I said go over town and give Sears $700 and you'll have a new washer and your warranty. I sold it to someone else 3 days after. :thumbsup:
The Polaris 1500 has 110 HP, 3500 towing and 1500 lb cargo. Might as well just run a Tacoma, might be cheaper. ffcheesy
Marketplace is a pain but I believe you can sell most anything.Most inquiries about my boat were from Ohio and Virginia and one fella from Richmond Virginia wanted me to meet him halfway with boat. I told him I had no guarantee he would show up and if he did not knowing if he would buy it.He got kind of mad about it and said he had no guarantee boat would run. I told him to come to my house and find out.Couple people said they were coming but didn't show up.Finally a local guy came and looked at it and went directly to the bank and got the money.He was the only person who came up and looked at the boat.I think I got a pretty good deal on SxS .The fella had maintenance records and it has 2000 miles on it and he had dealer install the winch.He seems to be a pretty nice fella and most people you deal with are but you also have a few 🥜. I don't like Facebook and don't plan on using it.Nothing on it that interests me.I may use Marketplace from time to time.
Got a electric power steering system installed on my SxS today.Pretty easy to install and made a world of difference in the way this thing steers.Really easy to maneuver through the woods and no jerking of the steering wheel when tires hit something.EZ steer was the brand name and I think they make them for different machines. I usually don't like to buy extra stuff (to tight I guess) but I would highly recommend this setup.
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Looks like a fantastic upgrade. ffcool
Nothing wrong with easy steering. :thumbsup: