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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #200 on: December 28, 2015, 04:53:54 AM »
I just read where this thread is up to. The pr52 is covered in old timberjack parts and workshop manuals.

Do you still want information on them? I won't have access to them until middle of January.

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #201 on: December 28, 2015, 06:24:02 AM »
Thanks for the replies. I'll re use the spindles as you guy suggested. I figured I could tear down the other axle and build one good axle if needed but I'll rebuild this one instead.

Thanks Neilo for the offer. I should be receiving the service manual I bought off eBay for the Rockwell planetaries this week. If for some reason it doesn't cover what I need to know I'll send you a PM.

What's everyone's thoughts on machining the hub to accept the axle seal?

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #202 on: December 28, 2015, 07:15:32 AM »
I would not worry about it put it together and run it  :)

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #203 on: December 28, 2015, 11:28:54 AM »
Without that seal, Seems to me if the machine was on a side hill that gear oil would transfer from the center (differential), thru the spindle and into the planetary. Not going to hurt anything but may lower the differential oil over time?
Would it be possible to run the pr52 spindle with all the rest of the pr67 stuff, or is totally different.
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #204 on: December 28, 2015, 05:08:13 PM »
if it runs one way it should run back to level it back out  my pr75s don't have a seal just a rubber oring on the spindle to keep it from leaking out where it bolts together

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« Reply #205 on: January 10, 2016, 10:09:21 AM »
I just found this site. Read the first 5 pages & jumped up 2 here(finally got below zero temps here in NW Wis so got 2 freeze some red clay down 2 do a little logging so not enough time right now 2 read all 11 of them yet)but it's good 2 c a Tree Farmer being brought back up & working. I have 3 Tree Farmers (4,5 & 7) & 3 sons in there 20's. I believe there getting good experience by keeping them machines productive. It helps when my Bride got me a 1 1/2 inch wrench 4 a Christmas present also. Looks like ur doing real good at fixing it back up. I get more time I'll try 2 check it all out.

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #206 on: January 10, 2016, 07:10:33 PM »
The new spindles have the seal deleted. So I'm guessing it's no big deal. (I've changed 2). The pr67 stuff is way harder to get than the 52. Also the axles are different
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« Reply #207 on: March 08, 2016, 11:52:00 AM »
Been making small progress on the c4B. Traveling A lot lately for work so not much free time.

Made a trip out to New York awhile ago and picked up 2 PR67 from forestry member Coxy along with some spare T98 transmissions parts. An excellent trip! I've got all the axle torn down in the shop. Putting new pinion shaft seals on the centers and cleaning everything up for re assembly. The t98 is also close to reassembly.

I was curious what method and type of paint you guys suggest for repainting the skidder. Is it better to rebuild everything and paint it when it's al together or paint the pieces individually then assemble? 
What type of paint would you recommend?

For prep work im either wire wheeling the surfaces or sandblasting them.

Thanks everyone

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« Reply #208 on: March 09, 2016, 09:47:31 PM »
Very cool that coxy was able to help. Your machine is yellow right (not the green)?? I did the pressure wash thing with greaser. No sandblast. Little wire wheel. Yellow is hard to get to cover IF they tint the paint in the store. I found that having the paint mixed at the factory made huge difference. Also consider having the primer tinted yellow. 
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« Reply #209 on: June 01, 2016, 08:39:38 PM »
Making progress the past few weeks while at home. The t98 is completely rebuilt(actually I rebuilt it 3 seperate times) first time I had the wrong input shaft installed, once that was exchanged and assemblied I realized the case I was using had the t18 style mounting holes instead of the t98(butterfly pattern mounting holes). Third time I got it right! I had original tranny plus 3 others, picked the best parts from all 4. The input shaft  I had to buy new from Davco. The original case had slop in the main bearing holes, about .004" I used loctite 680 to help retain the bearing so they won't spin.

There seems to be variations to the t98/t18 mounting pattern, all 4 of the ones I have are different, no to mention the different variations in jnout shafts. The picture quality isn't great, sorry.
 

 

Here are the input shafts, left to right, old shaft, new shaft, used shaft(ford truck style which wasn't correct)

 

Welded in the groves on the planetary spindles where the seal rides. Next I'll turn it down to the proper size

 

Building an engine stand for 3-53 so I can run it and clean it up.

Progress is slow but I want to repair it right instead of fast. Doesn't help that I'm back on the road for the next few weeks, working in Missouri but without this job I wouldn't have that skidder!






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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #210 on: June 01, 2016, 09:44:50 PM »
I was wondering if you where still alive  :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #211 on: June 01, 2016, 10:31:30 PM »
Sure am Coxy, Still kicking and screaming! I didn't get pictures but I've got the mounting plates cut off those PR67s and reenfornment stringers ran along the axles. Just need to weld the plate back on and it will be ready to bolt on

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #212 on: June 02, 2016, 11:57:07 AM »
When you get this done you can go into business manufacturing skidders. ;D

You might even come up with better ways to make one. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #213 on: July 22, 2021, 10:31:02 PM »
Would really love to know how this project turned out.

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #214 on: August 29, 2021, 09:14:55 AM »
Really disappointing how the op just dropped the thread :(

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #215 on: September 09, 2021, 10:51:12 PM »
Pretty unimpressive…..Here’s the progress of the project, not completed lol hoping to have more time in the near future as Ive switched contractors to travel less.

 

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Re: Tree farmer 1972
« Reply #216 on: September 10, 2021, 09:06:27 AM »
good to see you back  smiley_thumbsup
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