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Title: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: jeep534 on August 07, 2021, 09:34:30 PM
I will not go into details as to why I have my hands on a Belsaw D-1100 Wood Bunk (with manual) and A all steel M-14  

I will do my best to point out the obvious differences.   belsaw made various configurations over  the years
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: jeep534 on August 07, 2021, 10:13:54 PM
first both carriges are 10 feet long

D-1100 has 3 headblocks and a spring assist receder and is 6 inches deeoer in the headblocks and 6 inches wider track wudth (44 inches ) 3 inch flat belt (not V belt) feedworks.
Blade is 52 inches and 42 teeth
it has a steel husk
Mandrel is 2 inches
Trach is Hump cast iron

M-14  Has 2 Headblocks  10 foot carrige
V belt feedworks
Mandrel is 1.750
track width is 38 inches
Guide Track is 1X1X 1/4"
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: moodnacreek on August 08, 2021, 09:16:52 AM
Apparently they did not sell. I have seen the literature for this heavy duty Bellsaw by Sears. I think 'Cutting Edge' the Kasco bandsaw dealer has this mill. If Bellsaw had updated the set works on this [1100] they would have has something. My guess is that there where already too many real sawmills to compete with.
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: Ventryjr on August 08, 2021, 09:18:03 AM
Are you setting these up to use/display? 
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: jeep534 on August 08, 2021, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: Ventryjr on August 08, 2021, 09:18:03 AM
Are you setting these up to use/display?
i will be getting the m14 in running order it was a mess Someone thought they new what they knew what they were doing u
the D-1100 will be setup to saw
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: jeep534 on August 08, 2021, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: moodnacreek on August 08, 2021, 09:16:52 AM
Apparently they did not sell. I have seen the literature for this heavy duty Bellsaw by Sears. I think 'Cutting Edge' the Kasco bandsaw dealer has this mill. If Bellsaw had updated the set works on this [1100] they would have has something. My guess is that there where already too many real sawmills to compete with.
Both Mills came from Cutting Edge small world
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: mike_belben on August 09, 2021, 08:52:04 AM
I med an oooold tennessee junk peddler with several piles of belsaw this week.  He said in the 1950s a railroad project came through and gave farmers belsaws on credit, paid off in finished ties at $2 each.  It made a lot of pasture and left a lot of belsaws. 
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: jeep534 on August 11, 2021, 07:48:32 AM
Quote from: mike_belben on August 09, 2021, 08:52:04 AM
I med an oooold tennessee junk peddler with several piles of belsaw this week.  He said in the 1950s a railroad project came through and gave farmers belsaws on credit, paid off in finished ties at $2 each.  It made a lot of pasture and left a lot of belsaws.
That does not suprise me as these are actually tailer made to cut ties on using smaller timber and the outside of the logs could be retained as lumber
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: mike_belben on August 11, 2021, 09:54:35 AM
Thats basically where all the barns and wood fences came from.  A flood of jacket boards. When the barn and sheds are done, might as well make a fence.

The original fences have long since rotted but they left behind the wooden pasture fence as an asthetic of the region that has become a sign of wealth to normal people.  Probably an effort at old school to those who can afford one today. All the wooden fences i see with cattle inside still have barbwire or hotwire.  Gold plated high tensile would probably be cheaper!

Maryland horse country still has a ton of that look.  We only have it in wealthy rural pockets.  
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: Don P on August 11, 2021, 06:12:27 PM
There ya go, a cheap old farm mill and you'll be looking like a king.
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: mike_belben on August 12, 2021, 10:33:51 AM
Yeah but the king is the first one whose head gets lobbed off. I like blending into the angry mob better  
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: moodnacreek on August 13, 2021, 07:06:53 PM
A tie mill cutting sap boards off 9' logs of small dia. could be run on very light power by adding a heavy fly wheel. I have found hand hewn ties with date nails from the early fifties. As much as I dislike light weight toy sawmills now a days, I have to consider what it was like with a broad axe.
Title: Re: Belsaw D-1100 And M-14 Circle Sawmills
Post by: jeep534 on August 14, 2021, 12:01:02 AM
one of the things i would like to do is make a off feed belt  when i get the D-1100 setup  probably using hydraulics  

I also have an edger  that i need to rebuild the base