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Sawmill set-up
« on: August 24, 2018, 08:39:51 PM »
I'm new here and have learned a lot just lurking.  I want to purchase a portable sawmill, preferably a LT40.  I was wondering if it's reasonable to assume I can set up the mill close to where I have the trees down.  Are slight inclines ok, or is a level surface a must.  Is it too much trouble to move to every tree that's down?  I realize it would be tight turning around in the woods but would pulling logs a log way to a landing be better?
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Re: Sawmill set-up
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2018, 08:43:50 PM »
Yes, bring the logs to the mill, not vice versa. 
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Re: Sawmill set-up
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 10:55:38 PM »
The more level the terrain is the better because the sawmill needs to be level.  If there is any incline, I like the logs uphill for easier rolling.  All of the logs bunched together at a landing is certainly better but I have set up on a tree and moved forward each time to the next log.  Yes it takes time.


 
I sawed one entire job where the logs were strung out along a steep roadway.  In this instance when I finished sawing a log I moved up to the next log.  The entire job was charged "hourly rate".


 
Here is a huge Pecan tree that had blown over and I moved up to each log as I sawed.


 
Another picture of the Pecan tree.


 
And finally the butt log.  Yes that is Poison Ivy.


 
A blown over yard tree that I moved the sawmill each time I finished sawing a log.

There is no set answer.  I only custom saw so whatever the customer wants and is willing to pay for, I do.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2018, 06:39:17 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2018, 07:44:59 AM »
That is one nasty smiley_devil.
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« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2018, 08:33:11 AM »
It was also huge.  You can see the chain where I had to use the log clamp to help the loader.

Here are some pictures of where/how the Water Oak and Pecan lumber was used:


 


 


 


 

 


 


 


 


 
There was no waste.  That guy used every scrap somewhere. ::)

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2018, 07:22:54 AM »
If your just dubbing around go ahead and chase the trees if your trying to turn a buck have them stacked or have a machine to handle them. Its enough trouble to setup and level a mill that you won't want to repeat for every log. Frank C.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2018, 07:48:05 AM »
 

 When I sawed for the Amish they had logs scattered all over, they took a team of horses and drug them to the mill as I was sawing.  Steve
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« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2018, 08:02:02 AM »
I have no problem with moving the sawmill @ $75 per hour. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2018, 08:30:55 AM »
Let's just say it's highly preferable to have a machine to move logs.  The other question is, what are you doing with the lumber coming off the mill?  If you're in the woods, you don't want to stack it there, do you? Staying in the woods would also add the work of getting the lumber out, which is more doable once sawn into lumber.  But I'd really rather move the logs to the mill, and have the mill where the lumber will need to be stacked.  Another question is, what are you going to do with the slabs?  I guess you could leave them in the woods to rot, but I would not prefer that if it's my woods.  I'd want them up by the lumber so I could cut them into firewood, or offer them up free to others for firewood.  If you're going to have such a nice hydraulic mill, I'd want a machine to support it.  I prefer a tractor forklift conversion cause it's rough terrain and tight enough turning without tearing the ground up.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2018, 08:56:24 AM »
Set the mill as close and as level as possible.  Get a log arch and or a portable winch move the logs to the mill.






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Re: Sawmill set-up
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2018, 10:35:56 AM »
Magicman:

You say the sawmill needs to be level? Can you help me understand how I might get by without it being level? Also, just to clarify what we are talking about as far as level. I ask because I will have a mill on my property soon and I have 2 directions... Up & Down.

If I have my my deck supported so there is no twisting; that seems to me to be priority #1 and a non-starter if not satisfied. Then the frame level from side to side; this seems to be an issue with the loading of the log? Lastly, what about end to end?

Curious to why the last 2 would have much of an effect if your mill is relative to the log deck/rails?

New guy here, just curious and making sure I understand what "level" means to the pros.
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2018, 02:43:57 PM »
Magicman:

You say the sawmill needs to be level? Can you help me understand how I might get by without it being level? Also, just to clarify what we are talking about as far as level. I ask because I will have a mill on my property soon and I have 2 directions... Up & Down.

If I have my my deck supported so there is no twisting; that seems to me to be priority #1 and a non-starter if not satisfied. Then the frame level from side to side; this seems to be an issue with the loading of the log? Lastly, what about end to end?

Curious to why the last 2 would have much of an effect if your mill is relative to the log deck/rails?

New guy here, just curious and making sure I understand what "level" means to the pros.
GRAVITY !   As soon as you stop forward or backward motion the mill head will drift downhill.  You'll also have difficulty controlling cutting speed if the far end is downhill as you are cutting.  The head will move downhill on its own.   If you are not level side to side the logs will want to roll when ever you need to adjust to rotate.   Your mill will also be top heavy if you raise the head all the way up and it is sitting sideways.  This could be extremely dangerous. 
Your best and safest bet is to set and level the mill on the most flat spot you can find near the logs, then move the logs to the mill.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2018, 04:19:33 PM »
Great advice from everyone, thanks.  We are making a road and the dozer operator usually pushes the logs to the side.  I guess I'll have him make me a couple of level landings and get the logs as close as he can.  I have a tractor to get them the rest of the way.  Which leads to my next question.  I want to invest in a 3 point logging winch.  Do they work like they should? 

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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2018, 05:56:24 PM »
I have two 2' and two 4' 2X12's that travel in my pickup bed and also several shorter blocks that travel in the sawmill seat.  I don't like to stack anything up that might be unsafe, but I do occasionally have to pull one side or the other of the sawmill up onto some of these boards to level the sawmill bed.  I don't mine  bubble high on the loader side and also on the front of the sawmill but that is about my limit of un-level that I will accept.  If I can't get it at least that level then I need a plan "B".

The boards also come in handy when I set up at a sorta swampy/soft area.  They keep the wheels/outriggers from sinking.  Of course I also may "pave" the walking area around the sawmill with sawdust to keep me from sinking.  ;D
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« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2018, 07:44:34 PM »
You want to be pretty level and solid the length of the bed, otherwise the lumber may vary in thickness.

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2018, 08:29:45 AM »
The LT40's don't need to be level, real close should be good!

The biggest thing is the mill needs solid footing and support!
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2018, 08:58:18 AM »
I want to invest in a 3 point logging winch. Do they work like they should?
Logging winches are very handy for handling and moving logs but remember that skidding logs fill the bark with dirt, rocks, etc. which are murder on your sawblades.  Get the log's nose up so that only the tail is dragging but of course better yet is a FEL or LogRite Log Arch so that the logs never touch the ground.

As far as "level" goes, after a couple of unlevel sawing situations you will know where your level "comfort level" is.  Experience is the best teacher.  ;D
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