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Re: Boundary line maintenance
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2012, 09:22:23 PM »
Swampdonkey,come up and do mine. You'll be swearing at the moss covered rocks in 5 minutes.  ;D  Or that's what I do.  Trees and bushes I can keep clean,but rocks are harder. ;D  Or as I walk through the bog looking for a good place to step. Oops,as I sink in over my boot in water,that was not a good spot. Don't say wait until winter,it still happens.  ;D
My land is pretty easy to tell where the lines are. Everyone else around me had theirs cut HARD. I still have marketable size logs on my land and I don't mean pulp size stuff either.
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Re: Boundary line maintenance
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2012, 04:28:02 AM »
A man can come up with all kinds of excuses not to get the work done. :D
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« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2012, 05:19:14 AM »
Swamp, how oftone is maintiance done on the boundry line and who does it?
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2012, 05:34:22 AM »
Quite frequently. It was just done again last year. It's actually kept up a lot better since the mid 80's. When I was a kid it was over grown in trees. And those guys have rights of way to the boundary where ever they want to make it. They don't have to ask a landowner for anything. They pushed over a bunch of my plantation trees and ran their machines right through the brook to go around a beaver pond the last time.
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2012, 08:44:02 AM »
On private land in Tidewater Virginia, where I started with the VDOF, decades ago property lines were deeply blazed with axes in a specific manner.  It looked as if they chopped out wedges from the trunk, not just sliced off the bark. The blazes were all diagonal.

Corner trees were marked with 3 vertical blazes about chest high on each side of the corner, and on the angle from the tree that the property line extended from that side of the corner.  So you should be able to stand with your back to the tree with the blazes right behind you, and see the next lne blaze, on the angle the line took from that side of the corner tree. 

Line blazes were marked with two vertical blazes on each side of the tree in the direction of the line.  So you could see these blazes as you walked the line, not if you approached the property from the outside or the interior.

So if you saw a tree with 2 blazes, you knew it was a line tree.  If you saw 3 blazes, you knew it was a corner tree.  Many of these blazes had healed over decades before, but they were still highly visible because of the bark distortion and their diagonal orientation.

It was also common to run 3 strands of barbed wire along a property line.  So now you can see 3 horizontal lines of old wire in the line trees where the tree has grown around the wire.

And of course, paint nowadays.  Usually, corners are marked with 3 vertical spots of paint, line trees with one spot of paint.  No legal requirement as to paint color. And sometimes just "no tresspassing" signs facing to the outside of the property. Then you get the landowner that puts these signs 50 or 100 feet or more inside his property, which confuses everybody into thinking that's where the property line is.
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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2012, 08:51:50 AM »

This is a standard paragraph I include in all of my management plans:


A Virginia law now makes it possible to legally post your property to prohibit hunting, fishing, or trapping with the same paint marks used to identify the property lines if the paint marks are applied in a particular fashion.

Section 18.2-134.1 of the Virginia Code requires that each paint mark shall be a vertical line of at least two inches in width and at lease eight inches in length and the center of the mark shall be no less than three feet nor more than six feet from the ground or normal water surface.  Such paint marks shall be readily visible to any person approaching the property.  The paint must be aluminum in color.

Hunting, fishing, and trapping are still allowed on such property by anyone with written consent from the landowner or in the presence of the landowner.

This law does not cover general trespassing such as walking, horseback riding, etc.  To cover this type of trespassing, Section 18.2-119 requires a sign saying NO TRESSPASING be posted. Such posters must be signed by the landowner.
 


Aluminum paint mark and posted sign to both mark property lines and prohibit hunting and other trespassing.  Such posters must be signed by the landowner



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Re: Boundary line maintenance
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2012, 10:04:24 AM »
hacks and blazes will show as long as the tree stands.that is the best way to permanently mark a line in the woods.

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« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2012, 11:10:39 AM »
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A Virginia law now makes it possible to legally post your property to prohibit hunting, fishing, or trapping with the same paint marks used to identify the property lines if the paint marks are applied in a particular fashion.


Appears this posting method could be easily confused with a property boundary line, if an owner was just out putting up no trespassing signs without regard to location of line.
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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2012, 05:34:16 PM »

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Appears this posting method could be easily confused with a property boundary line, if an owner was just out putting up no trespassing signs without regard to location of line.
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That is the point I made in an earlier post.  Signs that are put in the interior of a property, off the property line, are confusing.

If a landowner marks his property lines using this law, the aluminum paint marks take legal precedence over any other paint or signs.  It is the property boundary line.
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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2012, 07:31:04 PM »
I have an elderly neighbor who just became a widow last summer. She and her 4th grade grandson posted her land this year. They put the posted signs up with roofing nails on my side of the line.  ???  She is a nice lady. I didn't have the heart to say anything. I think the signs will "blow away" over the winter and I will offer to do it for her next year. I'll get Jasper the grandson to help me.

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Re: Boundary line maintenance
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2012, 11:47:06 PM »
I had one nieghbor post our boundry (older growth on my side, juvenile on his) on MY nice large trees with BIG nails >:( :(, YEEESH, I asked nicely for him to put the signs on posts and if he NEEDED the post I would GLADLY supply them......


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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2012, 12:53:20 PM »
We've had considerable 'boundary tree attrition in the last decade. Windstorms, ice storms, diseases have taken their toll on many line trees.

So many destroyed trees that I now carry a compass and scope and flag off the line to a distant known marked line tree then back-track with tape. I  paint  and sometimes tie purple heavy duty tape to new line trees. Purple is Missouri's no-trespass color.

When we cross old trails or corners we put extra paint and really 'doll-up' to give notice to would be trespassers.

But sometimes, no matter what we have done in a clearly defined boundary or even fence-line, a overly-possessive , usually 'new landowner', will destroy the line or fence.


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