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Need Help with Planer/Molder
« on: January 11, 2005, 04:26:38 PM »
Hopefully some of you can give me some advice.  I inherited a 15' Craftsman Planer/Molder.  I don't know what I am doing wrong, but boards won't feed.  According to the Operator's Manual, the Rollercase Assembly has rollers, but I don't see any rollers, only a set of teeth on the feed side and a brush on the discharge side.  I know that my uncle used the planer regularly, but I never watched him closely.  

If anybody can give me any hints, I would greatly appreciate any help.

Paul

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 06:13:49 PM »
Paul, In what condition is the planer bed? A little rust on the bed will keep a planer from feeding.  Buff it to a shine with sandpaper or hardware cloth.  After it is good and clean, apply a coat of paste furniture wax and let that dry.  Apply more wax as needed.  That is just sorta general info, as I haven't used a Craftsman, but the principal should be the same.
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 06:39:26 PM »
Paul,
Welcome to the forum!  I do not have any experience with your particular planer so I cannot give you any solid advice but I definately wanted to welcome you aboard.
I am sure some of our members will be able to help you out.
Make yourself at home here and stay awhile.  Fill out your bio and plant a tree on the map.  I think you are our first member from Nevada. 8)
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 07:12:03 PM »
Paul,
Do you have the model number of this machine?
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 11:30:02 PM »
Kind had the same problem with a small (12 1/2") table top Craftsman planer.
Did some Red Oak with it last spring without any trouble. Tried to do a piece of cypress with it this past fall, and it wouldn't feed.
I don't think anyone used it in between, but I still don't know why it don't feed. :-/

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 11:56:58 PM »
Furby
My little DeWalt planer is fussy about feeding cypress too. And guess what 90% of my timber stash is?  ::)
I have to keep the bottom plate and feed in / out tables real clean and polished for it to feed reliably. But I can feed hard as rock Eucalyptus thu it no worries  ???

Like Faron says.. the bed has to be super clean and slippery. Some wood just seems to be more attracted to the bed than the rollers?

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2005, 06:51:59 AM »
Paul,
And anybody else who has feed problems with their planer :P maybe this will help. It's worked very well for me.    

scroll to  >>>>>Reply #21 on

http://www.forestryforum.com/cgi-bin/board/YaBB.pl?board=sawmill;action=display;num=1079782283;start=20


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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2005, 07:55:09 AM »
Thanks for the info thus far...The model number is 351.217450.  The tray is rust free, but I will try lubricant on the tray.  I'll let you know the results.

Paul

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2005, 08:27:09 AM »
Paul,

If I remember correctly, the Craftman planer uses rubber feed rolls to feed the lumber. There are two of them located by the cutter head, they must also be clean. Check them for condition, when they get old, they crack.  I don't know if your planer has a chip breaker, if it does, it is located just in front of the cutter head. If it is too low, it will stop boards from feeding.

See if you can get operation instructions from Sears and align this planer and see what happens.

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2005, 02:47:38 PM »
Go to http://www3.sears.com/ type in you model no. and check out the diagram. It looks like your suppose to have 2 rollers to feed the stock through from wwhat I'm seein in their diagram.

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2005, 02:58:54 PM »
Hey Termite,

That link was great!  I bookmarked that one for when I need to tweak my planer/molder.  It's amazing the info's that's buried here in the forum--thanks for bringing that back to the light of day!   :)  

I think it might be beneficial to have a section in the Knowledge Base regarding machine maintenance--I'd definitely vote to have Termite's comments added about tweaking planer/molders to the knowledge base, fwiw.

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2005, 07:33:07 PM »
Paul,
Your planer should have a feed roller and an exit roller. They should both be a semi hard cushion roller. They should be just over the feed tray. First things first, verify that they are turning when the unit is running. You may have a drive chain off, a broken key, or a missing roll pin.
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2005, 04:08:09 AM »
Paul
I have a RBI 20" planer molder that came with a 1/2" plastic top to go over the bed.  Without the plastic top I had lots of trouble getting wood though, with it no problem.  Maybe you find a piece of slippery plastic for yours.   Steve
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2005, 07:14:23 AM »

 After getting all the help found by Termite's link, we bought a 12" wide piece of Melboard. That's the white coated stuff used for quick assembly cabinets. It is REAL slick, and hard. We screwed a cleat to the bottom, so it won't feed into the planer and out the other side. Cheap, slick and lays flat. 1" thick will just make your scale read 1" high .  ;D ;D

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2005, 07:14:50 AM »
I run a 15" delta, every now and then I need to clean, polish, and coat the feed surfaces with silicon.  works well.
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2005, 07:32:50 AM »
Careful with that silicone, Ranger, if it gets on the wood and doesn't get sanded off, it will wreak havoc with finishes.

Pure paste wax (no silicone added) is a safer bet.
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2005, 09:49:57 AM »
Looking at the drivetrain diagram, it could be a stripped feed roller drive gear, ya might have to take it apart a litte to check.

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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2005, 05:33:15 AM »
Paul, Did you ever get her running?
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2005, 10:58:53 AM »
thanks, Scott, haven't had any problems, yet.  How about turtle wax?
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Re: Need Help with Planer/Molder
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2005, 11:17:19 AM »
I know a guy up in NY who puts  good ole DUCK TAPE on the feed rollers of his planer molder. He swears by it and runs alot  of custom mouldings commercially. has two or three of these planer moulders and they all have duct tape replacing the worn rubber feed rollers as he wears out the original material. Reid
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