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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2022, 07:42:50 AM »
19NOV22
Managed to get a couple more posts done the last couple of evenings.


 

Also managed to get to do my first "do over". After cutting a post tenon and mortise for the tie beam, I cut the slope the wrong direction for the half dovetail with wedge I wanted to use.
I decided that though it wasn't "right", I could still use it though the tenon for the top plate would be off and would need custom cut.
So I redrew the lines carefully for the housing on the opposite side from the reference face as instructed.
Then promptly stuck the Saw into one of the original Housing lines that I hadn't marked over or erased during the change.
So now it was definitely a scrap piece. Luckily, the post(s) up on that knee wall are cut short enough I can redo it without sacrificing the whole post.
I know you guys never do boner moves like that.


 

After that move, I decided to put the tools down, throw a couple more pieces of wood in the fire, get a bubbly pop and retire to my "groaning chair" upstairs.
If you don't have one in your shop, it's very highly recommended.
A "groaning chair" is where you go to sit in your shop to contemplate the last screw up you just made.
Mine gets a lot of use so if you get one it should be very very comfortable. As I approach 60, it's also good for a nap or two I admit.


 
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2022, 08:04:38 AM »
That's why I'm not a plumber, my mistakes warm me twice  :).
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2022, 01:42:38 PM »
With family running in and out for the weekend, i shut down operation and cleaned the shop up. 

 

I did have a question for the gurus though as I get close to completing the posts. 
I will have to make two scarf joints on the back wall it looks like to attain the 40 feet needed.
Where would you put the two scarf joints for strength and aesthetics?
The posts are 12 feet apart. The top plate will be 8x10. 
My first thought is to straddle the two middle posts with the bottom of each scarf over the outboard brace of each side. Then lay the other two plate Timbers over the corner
Posts and the scarfs on each end of the center timber. 
Thoughts?


 
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2022, 10:31:41 AM »
I leave joinery in space to those smarter than me. Why approach the strength of an undamaged beam when you can have the full strength of a fully supported one?

Absent engineering, which I have not seen, this is what the building code says;
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The ends of beams shall have not less than 1 inches (38 mm) of bearing on wood or metal and not less than 3 inches (76 mm) of bearing on concrete or masonry for the entire width of the beam. Where multiple-span beams bear on intermediate posts, each ply must have full bearing on the post
Ag is typically exempt from the laws of man but man's law there is with respect to natures laws... which is often the case  :).
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2022, 03:31:25 PM »
 

 

 

 

 

 

30DEC22
Todays warm weather (50ish) got me out to stand one more post and to start moving the first 8x10x 16 into the garage. This will be part one of the top plates going across the rear of the carport. 
It took a bit of ingenuity to bring the timber in through my small garage door but nothing terrible. Part of working by yourself.

I did want to make a shout out for the purple lifting strap and 1000lb pump up cart that both came from harbor freight. Both are at least 10 years old and never one issue. 
Good stuff.
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #45 on: December 30, 2022, 07:03:23 PM »
I wanted to get one of those pump up carts, but shop floor space is always an issue here, so I make do. But I did get a hanful of those purple slings for doing mushroom logs and loved them. My buddy Bill saw them and wanted some, but when I went back 6 months later I could find none. Still looking. Maybe they will have some when they open their new store down in town, just 12 minutes away. I hear 1/10 is their target date to open, but we'll see. All the contractors are working like mad and they were painting the building front yesterday getting ready for the sign.
 Where is your closest one? Troy?
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2023, 02:11:26 PM »
Yes. Troy is the closest. I have a Rigid radial arm saw. (I know, I know. Im going to cut my whole head off with it someday) the stand has enough space underneath to park the lift table. So space use isnt too bad. 
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Re: Beginner 24x40 in Southern Vermont
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2023, 02:29:47 PM »
6JAN23
Laid out the top plates for the rear wall in the shop as its raining.
Mail lady knocked on shop door and said she hated me and carry my own package. 

 

This should help make the bridle joints that Jim mentioned earlier in another thread. 


 

 
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