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Author Topic: Assembling my timberframe this weekend( more like over the next few years)  (Read 12763 times)

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I have the construction forklift rented for the weekend, and several friends lined up for helpers. I hopefully am ready to stand up my 16X24 Kingpost.

 



This is what it looks like. I have the two 24' sidewalls assembled and laying on the deck. I have the three trusses assembled and ready. My plans are to raise the two sidewalls, plumb, and brace. Then place the three trusses on top of the posts, then plumb and brace those. Then I have drop in purlins to put in. I used pockets rather than dovetails, and will cut each of the purlins to final length for each pocket so I get a tight fit. Then metal strapping to secure them in the pockets.

I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations on rigging the walls, and trusses for lifting with the forklift. My plan for the sidewalls, is to clamp a 10' strongback across the middle to support the middle joints. I don't really have a piece of lumber long enough (24') to cover from one end to the other.  I know this is a lot of stress on these joints and it has me a little worried.
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2011, 08:10:09 PM »
 



The darker lines represent 2" racket rachet ratchet straps and load/recovery straps or chain.

Tip:

If you unbolt the short piece of strap from the end of the racket rachet ratchet, then replace the bolt, the hook from the long strap can then come around and hook back onto the racket rachet ratchet at that bottom/ empty bolt.  This keeps all the steel parts of the racket rachet ratchet strap isolated to one area so that you don't scratch or dent your beams.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2011, 08:38:51 PM »
Rooster,

Thanks for the tip. It took me a second to figure our racket was a ratchet strap.  :D I am going to look at my straps right now, and make that mod if I can. It is always a pain to get the two hooks attached to one another, and then keeping them from digging into the beam.

The setup for the Kingpost truss is great. I'll set it up that way.

Do you think I'll need a strongback on both sides of the wall assembly, or is that just to keep the ratchet straps from denting the beams? I have a 10' 3X6 that I plan on using now.  I had actually planned on using 4 pipe clamps to secure it in place, but maybe a combo of straps and clamps would be better.
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2011, 08:48:36 PM »
Yeah, I tend to type with a "lisp"....I'm not sure if I even spelled that right or not! ::)

The thinner strong back is just to prevent denting.  In this application, I would use a strong back that was close to the same width as the girt and then strap it.  The clamps can allow pivoting at the point of contact were as the strap has little room for slop when it's "huggin' "both beams together.

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2011, 11:20:47 AM »
Thanks again Rooster. I took the bolts out of a few of my ratchet straps, and I like it.

I'll try and post some pics of the raising.  The weather is supposed to be nice this weekend, which is a welcome change here. This time of year we get some terrific wind storms, along with our rain. Last night we had steady 35 with gusts up to 70mph. I was planning on taking the plastic tarps off today, but it seems mother nature did that for me last night...  :D
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 06:00:55 PM »
We cut the hook off the long end of the ratchet strap, and run that end back through the gear part, so that it catches in the ratchet.  That way there are no steel parts to mar the wood.  Kinda screws up your ratchets for other things, though.

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 08:17:17 PM »
Well we started at 7:30 this morning, and knocked off at 3:30pm.

 



I rigged the walls as suggested, and they came up without any problem at all, no popping or cracking which was great.

 



We raised and plumbed the walls, and flew in the trusses.
 



Swinging that commander over my head, used muscles I think I had long forgotten :D

 



Then purlins go in.

 



We have the ridge pole, and 4 more purlins to do tomorrow.

Thanks for the rigging advice, it worked wonderfully.

 
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2011, 10:49:59 PM »
MM,

That looks Sharp!!!   ;)

I'm glad it went smooth...otherwise any future advice I might give would have to have a disclaimer with it! :D

And that is some veiw!

Rooster

PS  I've seen guys snap off trunnels using that technique...too heavy, and not enough accuracy...but as long as it got the job done, and no one got hurt, then "let 'er buck".  I call my 17 lbs. white oak commander "The Old Man"...cause after using it for any long period of time I tend to feel like an Old Man.  
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2011, 06:24:37 PM »
Finished out the purlins today.

 





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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 07:33:01 PM »
Your pup likes it too! :)
Looks great. ;)
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 07:49:50 AM »
Beautiful job!  Love to see that place first-hand, do some fishing in that little pond nearby and just enjoy the area.  Must be a great place to visit/live...   :)

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 10:38:53 AM »
Very nice.  Are the trusses, just sitting on tenons?  Or did you do something fancy with that joint?   I like the truss design.

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 01:40:45 PM »
the frame looks great, and the view......wowzaaaa 8)

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 05:13:10 PM »
Jander the trusses set on the posts with 2X4X4" long tenons, and of course the braces from the posts.  These joints are probably the weakest in my opinion in the whole frame right now. Certainly with the purlins  and ridge pole in place it stiffened up a bit, but you are still depending on those tenons to withstand side loads I suppose. I am certainly no engineer, but that is just the way it appears to me.

Until I get the roof sheathing on, I have some cross braces running from  the Kingposts to the floor joists. It is not unusual this time of year to get gales or storms with 60-100mph winds, so I wanted the gable ends braced. and secured.

 



frwinks we kind of like the view also. Had a whale in the pond swim past last night ;D

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2011, 05:45:17 PM »
I think I would run a stongtie strap down the last 12" of each rafter then down the post 12" or so to help support the joint.  Nobody will ever see the steel strap, and it would help me sleep better at night.   

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2011, 07:29:21 PM »
You read my mind on the strapping. I don't have a picture of the ones that run from the truss to the posts, but here is a pic of the purlins, and also a pic of the post to foundation strapping.





I used the Simpson 16ga coiled strapping. I had actually debated not using any metal in the frame, but laying in bed one night with the wind howling, I changed my mind  :)  This structure is a guest cabin.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2011, 08:01:10 PM »
Looking great and a great view, too! 8)
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2012, 02:07:43 PM »
I wanted to update my thread on construction of our Cabin. I found time late last fall to get the curtain walls up, and the ROs framed for doors and windows.

 

  

 

 Then my wife and I left for the holidays and warmer climate for a few months. Now however I am back at it, trying to get a roof on before fishing season starts.

First was some hauling from various mills on the island.  Here is my stack of red cedar siding, and the yellow cedar porch roof decking. I also hauled a load of Alaskan hemlock 2" T&G car decking which I pre-finished in my shop. You can also see the frame coming together for the porch that Jim helped me design. I'll be cutting the rest of that frame on days when I can't work outside.

 

 

I have been busy these last few days between rain and snow showers getting the roof deck on. I bought a big tarp, and by working inside the frame and unrolling as I went along I was able to keep the wood dry. I certainly didn't want the T&G to get wet.

Here is a pic from underneath. I really like the contrast between the Yellow Cedar timbers and the Hemlock T&G.

 

 

I'll try and keep up posting. I have the metal ordered for the roof, and hopefully can get it at least under roof between rain and snow showers...
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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend( more like next years)
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2012, 09:33:16 PM »
thanks for taking the time to post this.  It is great to see how this can be done.  Please keep them coming through the project.

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Re: Assembling my timberframe this weekend( more like next years)
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2012, 09:38:51 PM »
Got a few more pics to add.

My wife and I finished up the Car decking on the roof Sunday. We are trying to get everything in place and ready for a roofing team.

 

 



Here is a sketchup of the porch that is free standing, and will be attached to the cabin.

 

 

I finished the deck today, and put some scrap T&G on it for staging. Marrying  the joists to the sill beams wasn't a lot of fun single handed. Luckily I was able to use some levers and saw horses to get them engaged, then used my straps to pull everything together prior to pegging.

  

 

Once I had the deck on I had an opportunity to start firring out around my windows to make room for the 2" foam.

 

 

I am waiting for help from a roofing team, as I have been instructed by the wife to stay off...  :D
I'll keep working on the lower walls, till then.

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