Since it just might get cold during October, I decided to bring up a few loads of firewood and stack it on the back porch.
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The first load was about half split slabs for starter wood.
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The next two loads were splits and rounds. This is 2'H X 10'L so it should be enough to last well into December. Gotta be ready 'cause sometime the temps can drop down close to freezing. :o Burrrrrr !!!
That pile of wood might last a week up here maybe less if those guys up in Canada keep leaving the door open :o
Quote from: goose63 on September 29, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
That pile of wood might last a week up here maybe less if those guys up in Canada keep leaving the door open :o
Three days.....
1 wheel barrow lasting 24 hrs. right now.
That much wood would only make two good burns in my Garn. I loaded half that much tonight will put the other half in Sunday night. Were in the forty's and raining so some heat is good.
I think Magicman has a pasture full of piles of firewood and two full woodsheds he hasn't pictured. ;D :D
I got firewood.
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My woodshed. Two rows in the foreground about 12' long and two more in the background also about 12' long. All four rows are close to 6' high. I should burn about half of this during this Winter.
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This is what I split this past Summer that is shown in the foreground of the picture above.
MM,
Where's your Maul, and what is that contraption on wheels in the background?
I have one but my maul'in days are behind me. I would have hated to hand split some of those sticks shown in the picture, even in my maul'in days. :o
Although I will have 8 cords, it will probably last 2 years and then some. ;D
Goose, what Magic man has stacked there is smaller than your kindling pile.
Us Northerners are coming into our tough season - the Southerners are just coming out of their heat-stroke season. 😎
The Magicman is is poking us in the ribs and enjoying the fact that he and his kin have survived yet another killer summer.
😆 😆
It's a seasonal thang!
smiley_curtain_peek and loving it. :D
Quote from: Andries on September 30, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
Goose, what Magic man has stacked there is smaller than your kindling pile.
Us Northerners are coming into our tough season - the Southerners are just coming out of their heat-stroke season. 😎
The Magicman is is poking us in the ribs and enjoying the fact that he and his kin have survived yet another killer summer.
😆 😆
It's a seasonal thang!
Besides he cannot cut wood down there during the summer because the skeeters are the size of small planes :D
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That sign is needed in eastern N.C. after all the flooding from Florence! Could serve white meat or dark off'em!
my new tractor got me reinvigorated I got 32 cord up as of today
Quote from: goose63 on September 29, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
That pile of wood might last a week up here maybe less if those guys up in Canada keep leaving the door open :o
Yup some one left the skylight open and let the snow fall on our place last night. All gone by noon.
Our forecast is for a couple of days in the lower 30's next week so I may have to burn some wood. :o
Now thats a heat wave 20s this week single didgets at night with snowing right now just in time for deer hunting this week end hopeing for that BIG mule deer buck
Well, at least you have plenty more on deck.
Quote from: goose63 on November 07, 2018, 10:10:43 AM
Now thats a heat wave 20s this week single didgets at night with snowing right now just in time for deer hunting this week end hopeing for that BIG mule deer buck
Make sure you post a pic, Goose!
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I have the fireplace insert loaded up and ready to go. It's forecast to drop down to 37° tonight and to a bone chilling 27° next week. Burrrrr!!!
Wood pile(s) ;D
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I've added another 1-1/2 cord (two tiers) in the basement wood room since that photo, so 4-1/2 cord in there and 3-1/2 out in the wood racks.
Nice rolling wood fire. ;D
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It's 80 degrees in the house now. Nice and toasty. ;)
Sure enjoy the wood fire after being outside all day, good way to relax and want to go to bed.
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41° this morning, I had it ready so I lit er off. We are quite toasty now. :)
Magicman - I just don't understand why you choose to live in such a frigid part of the country. It was a balmy 43 degrees here this morning.... :D
DanG'ed if I know?? Just can't seem to bust out of the pattern. :-\
This is crazy 'cause I even had to add another stick of wood about an hour ago. :o
Our fire's been burning for a little more than a month now. Mid- 20s and snow last night.
I shouldn't have to post a pic; you all can imagine how beautiful our fire is in this weather..... Still not as cold here as where some of our FF Brethren (and "Sistren") are (check out a couple of Willard's latest posts).
At this rate Marty is going to be on his own for a floor - you're gonna need that big un to stay warm in the coming ice age!!
Nah, Willard is set up beside the school kids Lemonade Stand and doing a Stop-n-Shop....Load-n-Go. :)
I guess I'll have to start up a smudge. zzzz_smiley
It got down to 40 here this morning. If this keeps up I may have to put on long pants.
Tim
Ah hopes dat ah don't hafta start wearing no shoes!!! :o
Guys, this cold weather has gone crazy. It's forecast to drop into the low 40's or even possibly the high 30's this weekend. :o I may hafta bring up another wheelbarrow of wood sometime next week. fire_smiley
Come on up bring yer long johns and snow shoes
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This stuff will be here a loooooong time
No Long Johns close by, but we have Chick-fil-a in town. I can bring you some if you like. :D
Quote from: TimRB on November 10, 2018, 02:03:42 PM
It got down to 40 here this morning. If this keeps up I may have to put on long pants.
Tim
It's been in the 30s here for a while now and down to highs in the 20s some days. Most of the kids are starting to think about switching to long pants to wear to school.
We've been down in the 5F range already this month, looks like another one tonight. Warm in here though. ;D
I bought one of these, or very similar to it, several years ago and we find it is great to haul firewood from the utility room to the den where the big wood heater is located. I bought mine at TSC. I throw wood through a coal chute door into a raised wood box. This saves me lots of trips to move it once inside the house.
Amazon.com : Landmann USA 82427 Log Caddy with Cover, Black : Plant Seed And Flower Products : Garden & Outdoor (https://www.amazon.com/Landmann-82427-Caddy-Cover-Black/dp/B0017K651A/ref=sr_1_44?ie=UTF8&qid=1542847388&sr=8-44&keywords=firewood+carrier)
I brought up two more trailer loads of wood today, mainly because it was not raining nor was the yard wet so no tracks. Looks like we just might have temps into the 40's all of next week. :o
Magic - our temps are in the forties as well.
On the other side of the zero that is . . . . :D :D :D
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Now this, my friend, is how you 'bring up da wood'.
Goose, I'll bring you a load - think the border patrol will mind?
Hope the border patrol dont want to check what is inside
I'm thankful I stored 8 cord. I have been burning a wheel barrow load of wood a day and it is January cold here at 0F this morning. That is some cold for November weather. ;D :D Thank goodness for 6" of insulation in the walls and 30"+ in the attic. :)
Andries bring it turkey on the table today smiley_turkey_dancing smiley_turkey_dancing smiley_turkey_dancing smiley_turkey_dancing
Thanksgiving here to day and the temp is 10F. I am thankful that I put up more wood than I thought I would need back in June. Started the woodstove early (end of October) because the boiler split open and we needed heat. Been burning ever since. (Usually it is mid-November.) Thought I would have an excess at the end of the season this year, but I might have to cut some more come March. I have a load of logs dried and ready. Coldest November I can ever recall, a foot of snow last week, and I am trying to get down to the mill to finish that project. Gonna try to get a few hours in this morning before we head over to the party at my Daughters. Wish it would warm up. This was my pile before I filled it up in the middle.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
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I am thankful that 8 cords of wood would last me 8 years and a wheel barrow full would last a week. It is 40° this morning with a forecast high of 63°. I am also thankful for that. :)
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I noticed yesterday evening that my Red Oak tree leaves are just beginning to change colors.
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And the ornamental Maple is in full glory.
Happy Thanksgiving to all. :)
I put .5 cord of wet oak on my porch this spring. It's dry enough, if not ideal. I've been slowly adding more almost every day, and now have ~1 cord almost ready to go, as well as kindling. I've been pulling off the sunnier stacks, and it should be ready by the time the original is burned.
All my wood is on scattered piles in the back yard. All is exposed, but some don't get sufficient sun, so they stay kinda wet. I think it's about 6 cord total that's already split/stacked. I have another cord that needs to go on pallets, 2 cord that's still in rounds on the ground(some I'd guess are ~1,000# each), and probably another 2-3 cord still attached to the tree. at which point I'll consider the job mostly done.
So much work... Every piece is a puzzle figuring out how it wants to come apart. I have some I simply quit on, and they'll be split using a chainsaw. It takes me the better part of an hour to break one of the big rounds down.
I haven't run central heat yet. I have the thermostat set to 50°(56° is my preferred setting) as an emergency backup, and have been solely burning wood. So far, so good. I imagine the heat will come on in the next month or so. Can't keep a fire going while I'm out.
Well it was getting time to bring up some firewood so I used "Big O", my new-to-me Kubota that has not made the trip to the farm yet.
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Two bucket loads.
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That should be enough to last until January! 8)
Hard to believe, given it was 100F here last week..
I've got about 9 cords stashed away and have burned that much on your porch already. :D
My white oak is just beginning to get some red leaves. The red oaks are various shades from yellow to red as well, but they quickly go brown.
Quote from: Magicman on October 09, 2019, 09:06:08 AM. . . . That should be enough to last until January! 8)
This is what I have for kindling to last 'til January . .
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You've spent a big part of your hot summer playing in the sandbox Lynn.
Sure the heat hasn't clouded your judgement? ;)
Like Swampdonkey says, you need another 8.99 cords, my friend.
For @goose63 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) and I, that wouldn't last to the end of this month!
You Southern guys pay for AC, us Northmen pay for heat.
. . . . . either way, we pay for where we live our lives. :D
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Some of us look like this for a short six months of the year, y'know?
My wood pile is a growing too!!!
Lyn, what you have there is a little over a week's supply for us. I am between to warm weather folks and the heavy deep freeze folks, so 5 cords usually gets us through OK. Here is my stack right near the side door by the stove. It's not quite filled up in this photo, but it is full now.
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Oh I have a bit more if needed.
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Split stacked and ready.
It's way too early in the year to even think about a fire .Most likely mid November if it's cold enough .Of late it could be December .Not that I mind as I'm not a fan of cold weather .
Well now, you've been playing your cards close to the chest, Lynn.
A secret, hidden stash.
That stack and the one in the background will get you through any 'glacial period' that Mississippi might throw your way.
You're SET. :D :D :D
Meanwhile, it's snowing here.
First time this fall, and it won't stay, as the ground warmth will melt it.
But its a wake up call.
. . . and eventually you'll wake up to the same thing.
Keep your wood dry, boys.
Mr. Magicman,
Do you have your wood stacked up next to an A\C unit? Is that one of dem oxy-mo-ron's?
I think this is Lyn's subtle way of of rubbing it in the nose of those in the great frozen north without saying it outright. But then again, he has sweated hi butt off for the past several months in a large sandbox, so I guess it is his turn.
Surely no one thinks that I would do something sneaky?? smiley_curtain_peek
Sneaky? Certainly NOT. But sarcastic, humorous, fun poking, gentle humble bragging even maybe. Yeah ALL DAY LONG. :D :D ;D :D ;D 8)
:D It's kind of fun to ring a few bells now and again .Mean while back on the ranch it's raining out,so much for that today .
Indeed yes. A little fun helps break of the monotony of the chore, which in this case is one of the oldest known to humans and never ever ends. That of providing a a warm home and hearth.
The sun came out yesterday for the first time all week and is fading away today again as a coastal storm passes to our south. The CT shore has a gale warning up. We just have grey skies.
My wood is done since late May, but I have plenty other stuff to do. More work with a pick ax tonight. Glad I am not in Mississippi with those temps down there. Mid 50's is just fine for me. :)
I don't care who you are, that pickled bologna was very sneaky.
Quote from: Andries on October 10, 2019, 10:07:42 AMWell now, you've been playing your cards close to the chest, Lynn. A secret, hidden stash.
Actually there is also another hidden stash.
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This whack of unsplit rounds and slabs still at the farm. ;D
With that much firewood tucked away, well, . . . . people might start calling you a 'Prepper'.
If you're getting highly secret, long term winter forecasts for Mississippi, like . . glaciated forecasts, send me a PM, k?
@goose63 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) and I will FedEx you some snow pacs, lobster mitts, toque and a parka . . . whoa!
Sorry buddy, you may not even know what the heck those things are.
My mistake - ;)
Never heard of any of those, except for the lobsters. They are popular in Maine, right? Boiled, broiled, but never fried :).
Quote from: WDH on October 20, 2019, 07:05:02 AM
Never heard of any of those, except for the lobsters.
Count your blessings. :D
Yesterday I began wearing my lightly lined work pants. There is a little nip in the air.
I broke out the long John's two weeks ago for some days
I'm getting soft used to wear shorts right up till December to work.
On to many meds now.
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Just a light jacket for when it cools off
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And some mittens for @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370)
Sasquatch lives!! :o
Thanks Goose63.
Now that's good choices of clothing for putting up da wood!
👍
Quote from: Andries on October 20, 2019, 12:04:35 AMI will FedEx you some snow pacs, lobster mitts, toque and a parka
Togue? Yuch, greasy paper bag wrapped thing. Might as well eat a Cusk. :D Send him some smelt. You have any Landlocks there?
Quote from: Andries on October 09, 2019, 10:05:51 PM
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Some of us look like this for a short six months of the year, y'know?
Yeah but what do you look like in winter :D :D :D :D :D
Toque.
Its like a 'watch cap'.
Woolen, stretchy, covers the forehead, ears and rest of the noggin.
Warm. Thats why we like'em.
"... Togue? Yuch, greasy paper bag wrapped thing. Might as well eat a Cusk. ..."
Goose and I wouldn't ever eat our hats, unless we really needed had to.
Ha ha ha!! Wouldn't you have been surprised if I handed you a big 'old lake trout to keep your head warm!!!
Yeah, Lake Trout don't have much of an "R" insulation value.
. . . and would probably give me a fishy-er reputation than I already have. :D
That could have had "International Incident" written all over it!! :D
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Quote from: Andries on October 09, 2019, 10:05:51 PM
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Some of us look like this for a short six months of the year, y'know?
Yeah but what do you look like in winter :D :D :D :D :D
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If business is good, in the winter this is what my wife and I look like.
Haven't had enough good hard freezes here yet to bring wood close to or in the house. My wife is very anti bug or rodent so we will wait for a couple hard freezes.
Three little kittens
Lost their mittens
Then they froze to death :).
Twisted... Just like the Sycamore you love so much. :D
Quote from: WDH on October 20, 2019, 07:49:31 PM
Three little kittens
Lost their mittens
Then they froze to death :).
BUT, not to worry.
They were found in the spring.
(The mittens, not the kittens.)
(The kittens were carried off by a turkey vulture long before spring.)
I haven't got the wool out yet guys. ::) It was about 65 here today and the shirts were soaked through. Give it another month. ;) The good old sun kept the house warm today, no fire tonight.
6 cord stacked for winter over the weekend.
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Quote from: WDH on October 20, 2019, 07:49:31 PM
Three little kittens
Lost their mittens
Then they froze to death :).
Well now, @rjwoelk (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=26761), see what happens when some unfortunate souls spend far, far too much time in 100 degree F temps?
They're good people really, they'll come back to their version of
NORMAL once they cool off!
Sorry, I got caught up in that latitude-based rebuttal, rj.
Your system seems to be delivering the goods, well done!
Same wood processor and a new conveyor = a warm winter!
looks like you are busy as a beaver. Looks like I got 40 days to go and back on the road. Still have a lot of work to do. But did get lots done. 2 weddings and a set of twins was a busy year.
I scooped the end cuts out of the pile with the little loader, fed them to the big loader, and dumped them in the 550. That will last a little while. Supposed to have lows in the mid 20s next week. I've got about 40 face cords on the books and then I'll run off the 30 we need to fill the shed.
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Wow, I'm glad I brought up plenty of firewood because it is a bone chilling 38° this morning!!! :o Yikes!!!
Quote from: Magicman on November 01, 2019, 08:05:36 AM
Wow, I'm glad I brought up plenty of firewood because it is a bone chilling 38° this morning!!! :o Yikes!!!
A lot of the country is having below normal temp's. It was 18 degrees here the other morning and some wind making the windchill in the single number's. We got lucky and missed the snow so harvest is still going on. 32 this A.M. makes people and equipment a little slow to get going. Got to get this harvest finished and get back to firewood processing before my helper's turn there focus to deer hunting in two weeks.
Meanwhile, it was 65˚F for Halloween here - as warm as I can remember it ever being. I can remember a lot of years wearing winter coats to follow the kids around trick or treating. This was an unusual October for us in that we did not even get a dusting of snow.
Yes I am at 50° this morning. Yes,I had 60-62° last night. A warm Oct. Even when it was raining,most times it was warm. I have seen it rain in Oct and I can't put enough clothes on and be warm. :D
We had an all time record setting wet October. Over 60" for the year and over 12" in October.
Yep, we have had lots of rain in October to, the summer was bone dry, so good for the wells. My well in only 80 feet, and been lucky it has never dried up in my 52 years. And is good water to, no odour or taste to it and now I even run water softener because it is hard water. Sure cuts down on the cleaning and scrubbing from lime scale. :D
Will be putting on an afternoon smudge to take away the dampness. :)
We are forecast to see the 30°'s this weekend and low 20°'s next week so I brought up another couple of wheelbarrow loads. :o
@Magicman (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) we dont use no stinking wheelbarrow
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BIL need some wood so we went out last weekend and got 5 loads
Now its deer hunting time 8)
goose63,
We do things a little different here in NH but I've never had a trailer set up to push / pull ;D
Was the Ford needing a little extra help from the Arien's to get going?
I use a wheel barrow sometimes to gather in the woods, then throw into the bed of the truck. ;D That is when cutting road side. A wheel barrow is a handy thing. ;)
Well it is a ford :D
With the spillter behind it
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Imade that thing 30 years agao
isn't the operator's seat on that splitter facing the wrong way?
I think I would have a stiff neck after the first cord. Like the vice-grip lights, little night splitting action in them woods candle_smiley
I'm just glad you are not hauling that thing down the road in Maine. My wife would be a hollering at me to pay attention to the road and not what is going by me as the right wheels are kicking up gravel. ;D
Goose, we are 35° this morning. Brrrrrr. fire_smiley
Quote from: goose63 on November 08, 2019, 11:17:11 AM
Well it is a ford :D
With the spillter behind it
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Imade that thing 30 years agao
Is your splitter self-propelled, or are you just using the Ariens to power the splitter hydraulics?
Heard a commotion on the back porch. Opened the door to find the neighbor teenager stacking split, dry firewood on the porch right by the door. Me.. Appreciate the wood, but I have a years supply in the barn across the road. Him..Yeah, but it ain't on the back porch, you won't have to go out in the cold to get this.
What could I say ? I grabbed an armload this morning and fired up the wood stove in the house, feels good, it's in low 30's, that's COLD for Louisiana...
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Quote from: goose63 on November 08, 2019, 11:17:11 AM
Well it is a ford :D
With the spillter behind it
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Imade that thing 30 years agao
Is your splitter self-propelled, or are you just using the Ariens to power the splitter hydraulics?
Just the hydraulics
Now pineywood you are always helping people,maybe that has brushed off............. ;)
Fired up the snowblower, cleared a path for the Bota-Bug and hot rod trailer, hauled up a load of oak to mix in with the walnut I've been burning....
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The Veteren's Day snowstorm here made bringing up da wood a little more difficult...
Scott B.
I talked to my niece tonight she lives in Sanford NC and it was 3 degrees colder there than in northern MN She send a pic of her fire place burning .
Since I am now "gimp" legged for a while, Grandson Ben came over and wheelbarrowed a few loads of firewood up getting ready for next week's cold blast.
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The forecast is below 30° for Wednesday & Thursday. Burrrr !!! :o
His supervisor looks a little mean. i hope he is not giving her a stink eye as she tells him to hurry up a little! :D :D :D
Those two are tight. :)
Nice to see your getting some help, you take care of yourself and you will be posting in the What ya sawing thread.
I've carried a few armloads of wood in for grandma in my days. ;)
I'm still filling the wheel barrow from my outside piles to wheel into the basement each day. I throw a couple sticks of hard maple into the fire box, from inside the house, in with the aspen and fir from outside.
Quote from: SwampDonkey on December 15, 2019, 09:01:35 AMI've carried a few armloads of wood in for grandma in my days.
Yup, I was his excuse but he was actually doing it for her. :)
It's a pain in the back sides with this weather up and down .Then factor in the trailer load I have outside my garage was taken from a stack I didn't have tarped down .A little dampish .It's ash,I'll get into the shag bark and oak later when it gets cold if it gets cold .
It wouldn't be a problem if the frost were hard down on the pumpkin because I'd have fired it hard and built up a good bed of coals .This warm,again ,underwear around the table, ainta gonna go there . ;D
Our temps are getting into the 30°'s at night and 40°-50°'s daytime so she will need the Grandson to wheel some more wood up this weekend. Burrrrr :o
I'm envious of MM's firewood fetcher. My wood is stored in the barn 100 yds from the house. I have 3 grandsons and a wheelbarrow and grandma to encourage them...BUT
1.they all live 150 miles away
2. Two out of the 3 would have no idea how to drive a wheelbarrow.
Soo The power plant on my wheelbarrow is getting along in years (not to mention high mileage) I've had to acquire another tool..Yamaha rhino
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Note the fancy dual exhausts
You also have some good 'grips' on those tires. :o
In case of snow. :D ;D
Too big is better than too small. ;D Like the exhaust. Got an air intake 6 feet up in the air too? :D
Is the engine souped up for mud runs? smiley_horserider
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Cut some wood for a friend today. She has some fallen ash in an area that is full of springs. With the recent cold weather it is frozen enough to get to with ATV. Her spliter didnt want to start in the cold so I just piled it on high ground in the woods until spring. Been several years since I could get in that area. Need no snow and several days around 0 for it to freeze enough to drive on with ATV. Also snow would prevent me from getting to it because of the hill I need to go up on the way back.
My firewood stash needed replenishing and since my knee is somewhat better and there were no Grandsons available, I tackled the deed myself.
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The ground is wet so I enlisted the help of the ZT and garden trailer. Yup, got-r-done with no ill effects to the knee and I am now ready for the next blow of blizzard weather from the Glaciated North. fire_smiley
We up here in the Glaciated North have nuthin' to offer MM.
It's been single metric digits warm up here, and hardly any snow to speak of.
Maybe @goose63 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) can offer something up from way down South in North Dakota?
BTW, glad to here that your 'get away sticks' are mended to the point where hauling firewood kindling is possible!
now that is funny!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D :) :D :D "kindling" next we will hear about grits and chicken! 8) 8) 8) :D. probably best to not joke about a mans wood! :) bon_fire
Fire away with the ribbin', Doc.
Its what MM and I do with firewood and the glaciated/heat-stroke regions in North America.
It a seasonal back and forth thing.
I can appreciate any man's dedication to irony oxymorons sass when he proudly posts a photo of his teenie firewood pile next to his air conditioner.
Missed that detail - 'cause we don't use those things up here. ;) ;)
Well I will get da last laugh when da temps drop down below dat bone chillin' 40° mark and I am cozy and warm. fire_smiley You see, I am more manure than some most and I use my wise wisdom to plan for polar weather events that easily go unnoticed by my snow blinded, blowing, plowing, throwing, and shoveling glaciated brothers.
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. . . I am more manure than some most and I use my wise wisdom .....
Ahh, @doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) . . . how long do the meds after knee replacement last?
Shouldn't MM have digested and 'passed' those pain killers by now?
Meantime, us snow-blinded Canukians will be happy just skating around on thin ice:
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Yep, and more ice coming today in another icey mix. Would rather have the snow than ice. ;D
"Well I will get da last laugh when da temps drop down below dat bone chillin' 40° mark and I am cozy and warm. (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/fire.gif)"
With all due respect to our honored and esteemed Elder I jsut want to point out that 40° is what I heat my shop UP to to make it comfortable to work in. I had it at 50° yesterday and it was uncomfortably hot. I was sweating like a Mississippi Sawyer in a sand pit. :D :D :D
It was in the mid 40s here yesterday and everyone was in t-shirts and had their car windows down.
And the snow @Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307) I put up a new fence yesterday just for you
Got the wood in yesterday from the looks of things we might not get out till Monday :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :snowball:
do not feel bad @Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) we got up to 65 on Christmas day! :snowball: @Corley5 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=27) @goose63 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=23477) @Andries (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=9307) @Old Greenhorn (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=42103) I guess there is enough "Manurity" to go around! maybe a little bull to go along! Best regards gents! 8) :D :)
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Depending on how cold it is between now and then this pile might last through the end of January. But probably not.
It's been pretty warm here for the end of Dec highs in the upper 40's and lows in the 20's. I just backed a dump trailer in the shed next to the Garn barn that holds a little more than a cord. If it stays like this it might last to the end of Jan but probably not. Plenty of loaded trailers in the other shed if needed.
That load's about 5 face cords. 1 and 2/3s cords if you prefer ;D :)
Plenty of wood left here all stacked and dry. 4 cord in the basement and 2-1/2 cord under the porch. ;D
It's been hitting in the 50's here .Way to warm to fire the insert .I'm sure the mercury will drop in a short while or it always has in the past .
Our forecast is 73° today but we have some scary stuff blasting in tomorrow with a steady temperature drop and there will be tornadoes somewhere. :o I will light the insert Monday morning and keep it burning for 2-3 days when we should be back up into the 60°'s daytime.
This is actually our normal temperature swings between the 60°'s and the 30°'s with January normally being our coldest month.
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This stash that I brought up Thursday could possibly be enough to last for the rest of this Winter, but I will need to wheelbarrow up a couple of loads of small splits on the far end for starters. I use "fat lighter" for kindling.
@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) that small pile is a weeks worth here at my place
But you is Glaciated......I ain't !! :D
I burn about 1 face cord a week more or less when it's cold enough to even bother with .
we burn round the clock if it stays close to freezing or below, but otherwise, may just have a fire in the am. we turn our heat to 65° and I get up and get a fire going early am and let it go out as the outside temp rises so it does not get to hot inside.
Cleaned the pipes and built a smudge and won't need to add wood the rest of the daylight hours. Warm sun, the ice is melting off the roofs and the trees. I got sand on the driveway to and that is rotting away, once again. ;)
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Most days there's a fire going in my woodstove in the shop.
This photo shows secondary burn, at the top, as very hot pre-heated air meets the smoke from the primary fire down below.
It's a super efficient burn and getting the right damper setting, matched to the firewood and outdoor conditions is a "developed" skill.
All I need is another dozen years, I'll get there!
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I have a secondary air stove too. I like mine, and I agree that it can be a bit finicky
My furnace burns that way right away as soon as there is a good fire. And that don't take long, maybe 10 minutes to get a box of fire. First 10 minutes I help the fire with the ash pan door open. She's like a blast furnace in there in no time and then I close up the ash pan door. She'll ignite wood off of a tiny ember. 8)
Wow guys, this is serious business!! Our temperature plunged down to a bone chilling 39° last night and is only predicted to rise to 56° today!! I am glad that I brought up more wood last week because I will keep a flicker going until we climb out of this Winter weather situation. fire_smiley
I hope the drastic weather is not making your knee hurt! :o It is nice to have a chance to burn some wood. food, water, shelter... basic needs. there is something reassuring knowing you can take care of yourself. Nice to sit in front of a fire when it is cold outside. Be sure and keep Pat warm!!! 8). Enjoy the day all.
So sorry to hear about your extreme weather MM.
As Doc says, keep your mending knee in mind as you feed the fires.
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We took my firewood helper to the "ZooLights" last night. It was snowing, with a strong wind from the North and about - 20°C.
A beautiful night to enjoy the lights.
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My firewood buddy, enjoying a pastry and watching a Metis fiddle and jig show.
Beautiful but where did they get all of dat sawdust to put on da ground?? :o
That sawdust?
There's train loads of 'white wood', SPF from Canada going to the States everyday.
So, we've got train loads of the white stuff left over, right?
Funny thing is, it dissappears in Spring. All by itself!
. . . by June it's all gone. 😉😉
Nevermind the white sawdust, I'd like to know more about Andries helpers pastry ;D
That's called a beavertail: a flat pastry with sugary topping of your choice. I got the apple, she had a skor, m&m's and . . . in other words: a sugar bomb.
She's ten years old and a gem!
It's been cold here too. Down to 51° right now, was 75° this afternoon, might have to change out of shorts and put on jeans if this keeps up. :D
Just awful, Jerry, just awful.
:D :D Don't know how you can suffer so much.
Y'know Swamp Donkey, I'll bet they start bragging on about mosquitoes, chiggers, gnats and all sorts of other jungle critters soon enough!
Don't forget about the poor mans trash removal service we get down here - tornadoes!! :D
Quote from: Andries on December 31, 2019, 06:39:22 PMI'll bet they start bragging on about mosquitoes
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No brag....just da fact.
I know what you mean, it's just a fact.
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But at least we know in which direction we are headed. ::)
We have snake problems down here too....
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Love that caption for the wet floor sign!
But, trying to stay on topic, and bring the thread back to MM's 'da wood' topic - that venimous critter will be in the woodpile! 😨😨
SouthS, you just gotta post that again at the summer's first cotton mouth, coral or rattlesnake posting.
With the storm coming I ran off another load a couple days ago. There was some left but I wanted to get ahead of the weather. Moved the loader up here from the farm to plow out when the prediction was for possibly up to 16" of snow. It's been backed off to 3-6" 8) 8) 8)
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Haven't even burned a 1/2 a cord here in a month. Just not frigid cold this winter. Raining today, so not much wood burning, just a morning smudge. No fire here tonight.
We had a cold snap then it warmed up .So far I've only burned about 2 face cord .
I figure on 4 cord so far since I have been using wood since mid September. Most of that is trash fire wood like aspen and fir. I don't know if trash is the word, but all I can come up with on the spot. It's definitely not rotten. ;) Even if you only fill the stove once a day, it still burns away. ;D When I ask someone up north here, who claims to burn 4 cord all winter for similar square footage, if they build a fire every day there is silence. Don't care what stove ya got, if wood is burning in it it is consumed. Only time it ain't consumed is when there is another source of heat. :D Heck I can burn zero wood if I want to burn electric. It wouldn't cost any more for electric if I had to buy wood. But I don't have to buy wood. I can fill a half ton with wood on one tank of saw gas and split it as I load and not have to go far to get it. :D $100 bill in my pocket every load.
have not looked lately, but it used to be estimated that natural gas and wood cost about 7 dollars per million BTUs. and that was if you paid $250 per cord. It cost time and materials to cut your own, as well as investment and maintenance of equipment. It is good exercise and gets me and my son outside so bonus. at the time propane and electric were at $14 per million BTUs.
I've lost firewood clients to cheap natural gas. I don't blame them a bit. I wish we had it.
I also find the "trash" designation interesting. I guess it depends on how cold you are. the farther north you go, the shorter the growing season. and up north trees that keep leaves all year long (softwood) tend to predominate. the leaves are how a tree takes in carbon dioxide and build the structure of the tree/wood and give off O2 (good for us). It is the carbon bonds that store up the energy from the sun (without the sun, the tree could not grow/store energy). so we burn the carbon/wood and release energy in the area. If you have Hedge (32 million BTUs per cord) then Cottonwood (18 million BTUs per cord) is trash wood. As well altitude plays a role. so most firewood in the mountains of Colorado is softwood. The content of energy per volume has to do with density. there are also considerations of coal formation and smoke emission. so bark has BTUs but being less dense, it is not preferred. I have read that all wood has essentially the same energy content per unit dry weight. so after dry, the heavy wood simply has more carbon. So if you live in an area with Mulberry, Hedge, oak ect., anything less is trash wood. If you were freezing in a cabin in the mountains, then you will burn cardboard and paper towels, literally trash. :)
I think a lot of people pass up good usable wood just because it's less dense .Wood per weight has the same BTU's .So in theory if you burn a ton of cottonwood or a ton of red oak you get the same heat it would just take more per volume of cottonwood than of oak .The only difference probably is the cottonwood would weight less as it dries out the oak never gets much lighter .
Oak and elm are my choice in firewood. The woodstove can get banked up for an overnight burn and still be perking hot at 8 am. Softwoods make for short burns, a huge woodpile and lots of ash. Not trash wood, just more work for the same amount of heat.
Our Burr Oak is interesting. There can be a hot bed of coals in the stove, but if a good load of unsplit rounds are loaded in, it'll put the fire out. Ive learned that oak needs to be split in order for it to dry.
It's all trash wood when it's green!
There's also them smothered smoldering smoke fires that may burn slow, but heat is lost to removing water and the chimney is a mess. I don't want that kind of fire or firewood (wet). ;)
Only needed a few sticks this morning for a smudge, haven't added wood since 8:00 am. Now 3:00 pm and still 75F down stairs and 78F upstairs. I'll add some wood at 8:00 pm.
No picture but a Grandson came today and wheelbarrowed my remaining firewood stash back to da woodshed. We are forecast to hit 90° today which will break the record of 88° which was set in 1929. smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sun
Ouch!! That is hot, way too soon. I'm just headed to the furnace room to build an evening fire. :D
I will be "Bringing Back Da Wood" too. The pile on my porch will have to go back to the wood shed. I hate to handle things twice. Going to be right at 90° here too, today.
Not here. :D :D Snow is refrigerant, maybe you need some.
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Just ask, we'll work out the shipping. I'm sure it is essential goods so won't worry about crossing the border. :D :D :D
we have begun splitting for next season. if we have a fire it is early morning just to warm things up for the morning. we will find some wood past its prime for anything in the stack and it will be the wood to fire the retort to make lump charcoal.
Gonna be a while before we let the OWB go out.
We will be returning home from AZ mid week. Hopefully the OWB will be fired up by this time next Sat. Just hope the firewood I had stacked outside is still there LOL. Seems like we have been snow birds forever but we have enjoyed it up until things got turned upside down. Really missed spring training games and march madness.
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I am still running a full load of locust in the Garn every 24 hours. Its in the forty's this A.M. and raining some the furnace is running as I am writing this and the washer is running so were making some domestic hot water too. They say next week in the 60's some. Hope it warms up were only three weeks away from when we normally start planting corn.
I plan to run the OWB up until May, looking forward to long hot showers and toasty warm tile floors again. Will probably be a while before I get all the tractors started but excited to see how that goes since I last had them all running last fall. Will be doing oil changes and air filter maintenance on the mowers and tiller and other toys ASAP. Yes I officially have spring fever.
Not burning much wood, but burning some. I have a OWB,so my only burns what it needs. Does seem good to open the door and see all that wood still in there.
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This needs splitting. Most of the ones standing are 24"-35" and most of the stacked ones in the background are 10"-12".
Looks like some foresters' blue paint on the one in the center of the pic. Trying to see some maple taping scares but gotta make a lucky cut to see them.
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Quote from: Wood Shed on March 29, 2020, 07:21:08 PMLooks like some foresters' blue paint on the one in the center of the pic.
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My paint.
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I have since switched to florescent green
It's good you switched to green as most jobs the MN DNR among others uses blue paint to designate boundary trees that come with a large penalty for cutting. They get real funny if you even carry a can of blue paint.
Mi DNR uses Nelson Orange to mark trees meant for harvest. I made a comment to the forester that I had a can of it in the harvester in case I saw a tree I wanted. He didn't find any humor in that ;) 8) ;D :D
DNR in British Columbia made us mark every tree we measured during a timber cruise. We used Nelson Orange to. DBH line was marked and trees numbered. They may do random check cruises, so that was why. Each tree was tallied on cards with a bunch of calls for defect, height, diameter, species, dominance etc and not a dot tally that we do here in the east. You could spend an hour per plot with all the stuff they wanted recorded including a plot stake and a reference tree for that stake. :D
When I use marking paint, I could just as easily use pink or purple and it would not matter. I am making "bucking marks" that will not be confused by anyone because I am doing the marking and I am doing the bucking. ;D I am now using the Fluorescent Green because Home Depot runs out of Blue but always seem to have the Green. I can also see it better. ;)
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When I use marking paint, I could just as easily use pink or purple and it would not matter. I am making "bucking marks" that will not be confused by anyone because I am doing the marking and I am doing the bucking. ;D I am now using the Fluorescent Green because Home Depot runs out of Blue but always seem to have the Green. I can also see it better. ;)
Yep, but you now how we like to tell our life stories. :D :D
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I had used lumber crayon for years but this "upside down" paint marketed for identifying underground utilities fits my need very well. My switching from blue to green meant that I switched from drinking water to sewage :o :
Red: Electric power lines, cables, conduits, & lighting cables.
Orange: Telecommunication, alarm, or signal lines, cables, or conduits.
Yellow: Natural gas, oil, steam, petroleum, or other gaseous or flammable material.
Green: Sewers and drain lines.
Blue: Drinking water.
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I had used lumber crayon for years but this "upside down" paint marketed for identifying underground utilities fits my need very well. My switching from blue to green meant that I switched from drinking water to sewage :o :
Green: Sewers and drain lines.
Blue: Drinking water.
There has got to be a joke hidden in there somewhere! ;D
Yup, I did not know the designation for either color until I saw the chart. ::) Kinda funny. ;D
I got 4 trees down and skidded up to the yard today after church with the old bota. Been releasing keepers about an eighth mile out back. Its a lot softer riding than the dozer.
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I'll take another eight of them piles. ;D
No need for fire wood right now 11 days in the 90s whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smiley
How is your heater wood supply doing Magicman? Gonna make it through the rest of this season? :D
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I'll take another eight of them piles. ;D
Sure, i'll mark em and you can come fish em out anytime!
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I got lots standing up here, you can come cut and yard. :D :D
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No need for fire wood right now 11 days in the 90s whiteflag_smiley whiteflag_smiley
. . . and the Weather Guessers are calling for another week of the same.
Yikes!
I guess it's that time of year when some of the deep South boys make the comment that they've never met an air conditioner that they didn't love.
No AC, and drinkin warm water in the sun like a real redneck.
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How is your heater wood supply doing Magicman? Gonna make it through the rest of this season? :D
Marty and I were looking at it after clearing all of the roads before the 4th. I will soon be in the skidding business and the Grandsons will be splitting & hauling. Their other Grandparents have no firewood source so that is
their job our privilege. :)
You guys talking about firewood got me concerned so I brought two loads up from da woodshed this morning. Since PatD has a "broken wing" I mostly brought up split slabwood.
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This should be enough to last 'till Christmas. :)
remember to not start burning till the outside plants have lost their flowers! smiley_flowerhead :) smiley_daisy
Well Magicman, since you brought your firewood up to the house I figured I better do the same. So out to the barn to where my wood is stored and fill my little dump trailer.
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Then down around to the back of the house to the basement sliders, unload the wood into a wheelbarrow, wheel it over to the stack and unload. Do that twice more to empty the trailer, then back to the barn for another load.
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This should be enough to last till Christmas. ;D
You brought up enough to last me 'till Christmas, 2024. Yikes !!! :o
Looks like I will have to build a flicker Wednesday AM 32°, and Thursday AM 34° then back in the 80°'s next week.
My truck got a glazed look from the cold here. :)
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If ya wuz on this end of da UP yer truck would be covered with white stuff, not red right now. :(
Hopefully won't see that ice here until end of Nov. :D Been in the 60's here lately. I have 10 cords to move out of the woods, for next year. ;D
I hadn't even clicked on this thread yet this fall, because I know that "Bringin up da' wood" by Magicman is going to be a short story😊
Yup, you guys just don't understand how much firewood it takes for us to stay cozy this far South of the Glaciated Zone !! :o
I really feel for ya'😊 Honestly, I'd rather cut and split my 8 cords than deal with all the hot and muggy y'all have down there!
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Yup, you guys just don't understand how much firewood it takes for us to stay cozy this far South of the Glaciated Zone !! :o
No, we don't. We are all trying to parse out how you can go through an entire season on a weeks worth of wood. :D
If ya ever need a freight train of wood, just drive north a little into the firewood zone. :D
Quote from: barbender on October 17, 2022, 10:45:11 PMI'd rather cut and split my 8 cords than deal with all the hot and muggy y'all have down there!
If'en you wus cutting-n-splitting in dis hot-n-muggy weather you would understand. Da sacrifice is made in da Summer, not da Winter. :D
smiley_sweat_drop smiley_sun vs :snowball:
Now that there is backward to northern firewood cut'n. Cut in the cool of fall/winter to keep warm doing the job, not to cool off. :D
I get it done before the frost is on the pumpkin .When cold weather hits it takes me about 15 minutes daily to fill the box inside and a half hour about every week to fill up the trailer .The later is parked up next to my garage door . I load the trailer in the afternoon when it's the warmest .The older I get the less I like winter ,humbug .
Fact is my firewood is the result of clearing fallen trees, and not as actually falling trees for firewood. I have ~7 miles of trails/roads on my property and keeping them open is a constant chore. I will often clear a fallen tree by bucking firewood and stacking it beside the road for later retrieval, only to see it rot. I saw a nice whack Monday that is now too far gone.
Here is a good example that happened on June 30th: LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=119555.msg1917985#msg1917985)
Scroll down to Reply #6 for the actual removal. None of this firewood has been brought out yet, but I saw it today and it is certainly OK.
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I wheelbarrowed up a couple more loads this afternoon 'cause you Glaciated Guys have me sorta worried. fire_smiley
It's 52° now but the forecaster gal is saying 14° at 7:00 tomorrow morning. Yikes !!!
I put in for some of that fresh Northern Air to make a visit down your way, Magic. I hated to see all of the work you put into that firewood pile and never get to fully appreciate it!😊
Now, just to be clear, when BB orders up the fresh air, he's ordering from a "Made in the USA" map.
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That's your own National Weather Service and they are bright guys that know what they're up to. Those of us North of the Line of Invisibility had nutthin' to do with your harsh weather.
The map clearly shows we have NO weather up here.
Oh Andries, when I order up a big blast I ask for it to come right from the NWT and Yukon Territory. We have differences between our two great nations, but I have to hand it to Canada on making cold air. In fact, I get all of mine from there😁
You guys send me a lot of smoke in the summer and fall, too😊
We are forecast to be below freezing for the next 60 hours which will be an all time record. It dropped 42 degrees in 12 hours which is amazing/unbelievable to me.
We have not been this cold in over 30 years. I have not seen the 14° that was forecast but I am looking at 16°. :o
Well was 19F here earlier, but going to be 45F with rain here later. Wind is kicking it up now, but I don't think we are going to get the sever wind, might get 30 mph at most. Time will tell.
At Midnight it was still about 42, at 7:30AM it was 13, now at 8:30 its 11.
I had a little bit of white stuff on my deck, not the 1" predicted.
My Sister near Nashville had -1 and about 1" of snow this morning.
It was 41 above yesterday afternoon .At 8:30 this morning 8 below with 2" of snow .At these temps the insert has an appetite ,feed me ,feed me .
Now this cold weather stuff I have to admit with oxygen rich air the saws do run good .Problem is the sawyer doesn't .In a short while I'll have to spend 15 minutes loading up the inside fire box and that's about all of that I want .
I use up the dry wood under the porch first, so I load up the wheel barrel and wheel it in beside the stove. Still 3 cord out there, and 5 inside, 10 feet from the stove. If I run out, which ain't likely, there's 8 more in waiting about 3 steps past the porch. :)
I'm slowly getting it done .With the wind chill factor it's 33 below .This reminds me of the 1960's .It's only a short walk to get to it but I broke out the Carhart arctic for this job .Carry in two bundles then thaw out .It's just plain cold .
Yes, keep the wood close by. I've got 2 cord in the basement for the big wood stove. That will last till mid-late February. There is a full wood box in the garage for the kitchen stove, about a weeks worth. Then in the barn about 5 cord of dry wood which will be more than enough for the rest of the year.
I am looking at 16° again this morning and the Red Oak is doing just fine!! :D
Burning well seasoned white oak and the Jotul is liking it😁
What a difference a day makes .Yesterday it was 8 below with a chill factor of 33 below .This morning it was zero with minus 22 chill . I still have to go outside to fetch the wood .
Red and White oak, eh? Got both out in the woodshed, along with some hickory. I really need to ditch my "burn it in order" attitude and grab some of that instead of the marginal maple I'm using now. Wanted to finish up the log pile to make room for the next load, and this stuff on the bottom was already what we'd call "past it's prime", so I wanted to use it up. But in these temps that can wait til later in the season. Today, I'm startin on the good stuff. :)
Well it seems the worst of the blizzard has passed my portion of the country. Time to start moving snow. Maybe make it over to my parents for Christmas dinner. Had to shovel off my covered wood pile twice yesterday to get to firewood. House dropped down to 55f over night with -2f outside and 60mph winds. Stay safe and warm friends. Merry Christmas.
Im following your lead Spike60! Was trying to burn up some older stuff but with 10* mornings we are sitting next to a stove full of the good stuff! I had a couple trees come down in the wind but they are gonna have to wait. They will be better in next years cold anyway. Merry Christmas and stay warm all
Oak while high BTU can be fickle .Red oak left in the rounds will eventually degrade .White oak which is more rot proof will hold moisture in the rounds ..
I've got about 3 cords of white oak that had laid in rounds for 8 10 years .It's all solid but this year does not burn very well .Next year that will all change .Green cut white oak might take a couple of years to dry out .Even with that it's still heavy .
Finding the same here Al.
Cut, split and stacked for two summers before using.
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This is bur oak which is in the white oak family.
It can be blocked up and stacked for two years, and it doesn't burn worth a hoot.
However, when split and dried, it's the very best firewood.
In my experience, bur oak and red oak do not dry without being split, period. One exception, sometimes I've got into smaller diameter dead standing red oak where the bark fell off of it, and that dried out well.
I learned over the years that red oak and white oak need 3 years after splitting to dry for good burning.
If 2 years, could tell the difference in the heat from the wood boiler. Ash was just one to two years and produced good heat.
It does seem oak is way better for those that plan way ahead. I've never had much luck burning oak unless it was cut and split for at least 2 years or more. Leaving it log length it seems like it gets wetter as it sits around.
As benefit, but a critical one, is that bone dry firewood doesn't tar up my chimney with creosote. We're not fans of the chimney fire 'rocket lift-off' events.
When the chimney brush gets sent up the pipe, there's only a shot glass of ash that follows it back down.
Yeah, I know, it's a weird way to measure creosote. . .
I have a bunch of dry hickory and much of it debarked. I have found it to have lots of BTUs but not the best for nightime fires as it checked and cracked so much. The fire gets in those cracks and eats it up fast. Better at night to load with large rounds of other good hardwood that are not full of cracks. I have lots of space in the basement where the stove is and try to get wood in by the heat to wring out that last moisture for a bit before burning it. Should have built a woodshed years ago.
I avoid anything other than Red Oak because of the ashes that are left after burning.
This is the first year since my 50 years old son was a teen we have sold no firewood. Most of our treasured customers have passed away or moved away. The new people buy on line from whoever. They won't order until December! We where always done by then. I still do some hardwood slab for my neighbors on my terms. The wood delivery truck is all mine now and I am buying much less gas for the picker that loaded the processor. We really couldn't get good firewood sticks anyhow with the diesel price. Sometimes you have to quit to see what it wasn't.
I'll burn anything that fits through the door .Some obviously are better than others but they all have BTU's .I scoop the ashes out about once a week no matter what I burn .Just a tad over a coal bucket full which might be close to a face cord of wood .Takes all of ten minutes but not while the fire is burning away hot enough to forge a horse shoe .
Al, I'm getting to the point where I think I actually feel warmer when I burn the junk and underdog firewood species😁
This winter, I wanted to see how far I could make it just burning debris from the firewood processor and sawmill slab waste. The last snowstorm put an end to finding a lot of my offcut and debris piles from the processor, but I think I have enough sawmill slabs for all of this winter...and maybe next😬😊
I can be sorta choosy because my only competition is the termites. I get all of the firewood that I need by clearing the roads and trails. LINK (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=119555.msg1918125#msg1918125) Even then much more goes to waste than I will ever use. I have not brought the above out yet. ::)
I've got nearly the same situation on a smaller scale .Wind falls ,downed stuff everywhere .Lots of small stuff and some 3 feet in diameter and a 100 feet long .I had some giant ash at one time .Fact a couple of grave yard dead standing shag barks nearly 100 feet .I just can't get to them all in a timely fashion and eventually the wind gets them .The hickory cracks and pops but it does put out the heat .Sounds like 22 rifle shots at times .
That sounds like our Eastern Larch, more commonly known as Tamarack. It burns very hot, and the resin pops like a .22. Old timers warned that it would burn out your stove I'm short order.
The popple and fir are doing fine here, when ya gotta open up the windows to make an air adjustment. :D I clean out the ashes in stove once a week with my ash shovel and a 3 gallon galv. pale, 1/2 to 3/4 full. That's with 7 wheel barrel loads of wood through it. No matter what one burns there is ash unless it's sucked up the flu or something. Never heard tell of ashless wood, must be different fire chemistry in different parts of the continent. ;D
I get very little wood from windfalls. I might find one tree a year. The woods aren't old growth, so I get mine from thinning out the junk trees that are in bad form. Lots of those up in the north country. Winter and wildlife up here are hard on a lot of different species of trees. Not hardly a pine, red maple or red oak that will escape a moose, bear or rabbit making damage to it. Yep, a tree has a hard life up here. :D
The only trouble I've had with tamarack is splitting it. It's like splitting elm, knarly twisted stuff with all the spiral grain. One look at the leaders of it up here will remind one of a cork screw. :D Neighbor had been cutting some before Christmas. Not sure what he's going to do with it. Not worth much to sell, I'd rather burn it than give it away. Doesn't burn any different than spruce when dry. I planted lots of it here in the wet runs down through the woods, better than willow and alder groves, and grows like a rocket. ;D
These are now 10" dbh and 50' + on wet ground. There is a narrow wet run down through here.
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We've had a lot of rain and these runs are full of water. That's balsam to the left, he's on a high spot. Those things grow fast to around here, as long as they are on good ground, not in the wet.
Well, just added some popple into the furnace, good until early tomorrow morning. Nothing beats dry wood. :)
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Junk wood burners unite ! I've heard tell that burning Pine will plug up
your chimney. From experience I can say that is nothing but an old wives tale.
What plugs up a chimney is burning wood that isn't dry.
Checked my chimney clean out yesterday after burning White Pine, Spruce and Balsam Fir for the last 2 1/2 - 3 mos. There might have been a pint of dust in there. Ran a brush through it before the season started.
That 20" snowfall a couple weeks back had me thinking woodyard cutting was done for the winter.
But thats mostly melted and there is probably 5 cord of logs and tree length
wood laying there needing to be cut so broke out my big 359 Husky and started bucking
up some big Oak i cut last fall. That stuff is heaaaavy ugh.
Something other than "junkwood" for a change.
The good part is the wood isn't frozen to the ground so rolling them for the final cut
is a breeze.
I was needing something to do .....
Wood by weight produces the same BTU's it's just some produce more by volume but it all burns .If it's half rotten it just goes in the patio fire ring otherwise it goes in the insert stove .
You mentioned half rotten wood.
That's what I am burning now in my OWB.
My FIL came up once at about 10° and told me I could not burn wood like that. I told him lets go inside where it is warm and talk about it. :D
even dry bark makes the same BTUs per unit of wt.
I guess back in the days of axes and cross cut saws they used the bark to fire those steam donkey engines .I'd say just to keep the fire going would be a full time job .
Pulled the woodsplitter out of storage today and towed it down to the woodyard
with the snowmobile.
Never would have guessed I'd be splitting wood in January
but with temps in the 30s for the next week just couldn't resist
tearing into the Oak that just got bucked up.
Its a little messy with some snow stuck to it but once the gloves soak through grab another pair and keep on splittin.
We've been shorthanded at work, had guys sick, trucks breaking down, and weird weather events. That has all added to more stress and less time at home. I got home at 11:50pm Fri night from plowing, took a better part of Sat being lazy and recovering from the week. Today I got some tractor time in, helped with laundry and chores, did doughnuts on the hardpack ice with my boy, and got the woodrack loaded up again
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I do the same as OGH and get the latest cart of wood dry somewhere close to the stove
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the pieces of tin in the foreground and background are used to.keep the heat off the reg furnace and small a woodrack. Tomorrow starts the grind all over again
I may have to bring up another 6-8 sticks.
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The forecast is for record cold (29°) this weekend. Yikes !!! :o
Today should get up into the mid 40's.
Tomorrow, Sunday, not much above freezing.
OH! The Humanity! :D :D :D
I jsut got a cord delivered this week and I figure it will be gone before May.
I used about twice Magic's bundle early this morning, but no fire now and all day. Sun is breaking through. The room here will be in the 80's from the sun this afternoon. Probably will open the window before long. ;D
A cord??
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I have burned this much but I will admit that it has been an unusually rough Winter.
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This is what I had left over last Winter, and this year I am having to bring up more. :o
Without bringing up more firewood, I just put the last 4 sticks in the insert for tomorrow morning's flicker. 29° forecast for tomorrow morning and then steadily rising to 56°, so I will light it and let it burn until it's gone. fire_smiley
I don't see anything below 51° for the next entire week, so this could be it for fires this year. I am seeing a high of 84° this Thursday so the blanket may have to go and the AC may come on. smiley_sweat_drop
Acord? Yes a Chord! in the key of G and on a tiny violin playing, my heart bleeds for you! :snowball: :snowball: :snowball: :)
Nicely put Doc. I had another thought but was having a hard time framing it in civil words. :D :D ;D
Yup, hardly burnt any wood in February, actually had the doors open many nights, but March is another story. Will be in the teens tonight, of course the mild February means my fruit trees have all flowered so we will see what happens to the fruits.
That reminds me, in 1981 February was the warmest on record in these parts (you won't hear about that from alarmists) and the bristly locusts (we call them acacia locally) all leaved out because it never froze, average low temp was 34 F. In March it turned cold and killed them all stone dead. I cut them down that spring. Down at grandmothers about 1/2 mile away, they also died, but they came back off root suckers like aspen will do. The old people planted them around this area for the flowers 150 years ago. They are not all that winter hardy, not like a lilac is. To note, it's never been that mild here ever since.
Summer photo for context.
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OK it is the forecast 27° this morning and yup, :o
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I lit the final flicker for this Winter. fire_smiley
Had a fire here this morning, 18F. But the sun is out now and so is the fire. A window is up until this evening when I build an evening smudge. ;D
Was 19F for a low this morning here, 81F on Friday per the weather guessers.
We are now up to 34°
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And the last fire of the Winter is doing quite well with a nice bed of coals.
The coals were about gone by noon and it is now 55° outside.
Good bye Winter !!! 8)
I just threw on another log down below, I'm splitting and running wood up to the shed for next year, 20 this morning but its almost whipped. Uhh the porch floor paint I did in the box truck yesterday, the chemists say everything dries, eventually :D.
55F is still on the cool side for taking a shower. :D
MM, I can feel the warmth from the coals in your picture.
Thank you cutter . Yes that last burn was quite nice and the only firewood is in da woodshed, so I am done for the Winter. :)
We have 86° forecast for Thursday and yes, we will still get some "nippy" weather but the cold should be gone.
9 below the last 2 mornings, have had no above freezing yet. Full go with the wood stoves.
Quote from: barbender on October 17, 2022, 11:46:01 AMI hadn't even clicked on this thread yet this fall, because I know that "Bringin up da' wood" by Magicman is going to be a short story😊
Burt, That was last year and this is this year. You can now rest easy because....
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I just brought up da wood which should last until the New Year. The forecast says that we will probably be into the low 40's later this week. Yikes!!!
:D :D :D That is cute. Good for a chuckle every yea, and I am just a tad jealous that I can't get away with that. The again, I would not want to swap summers with you grits guys either. ;D
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The photo above is back in September, since than I have filled that area making about 5 cord. This is the house pile and I have about the same for the shop pile and still adding more. The house gets the perfect wood, the shop gets all the junk plus whatever good wood I can find. I just this week burned up a bunch of pithy semi-rotted stuff to get rid of it and it was a pain to regulate the stove, needing a lot more air for a clean burn with less heat output, but the afternoons warmed up, so I could still regulate it well enough, to keep the shop at 70 for my finishes to cure, but some nights it burned right out before dawn.
I started our first fire on the season in the house stove tonight. Same date as last year.
Yes, I'd rather pile wood than have those 5 t-shirt days. By that I mean, the days where you have to change your sweaty t-shirt for a new one 5 times🥵
We've been having a beautiful stretch of weather this November, it must've got to nearly 50° today. Sounds pleasant again for tomorrow, and then highs in the 20's the rest of the week😬
Had a heavy blizzard yesterday afternoon leaving a dusting of snow. In the morning it was clear and no wind. Clear here right now to, 28F.
Here's another 8 cord for next winter, and I have 11 cords all dry and stacked for this winter. The pile is nice and handy to where I stack in April. ;D Two years worth of wood has a nice feeling. ;)
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That makes my 1/3 cord look puny but then I burn less than a cord per year. :)
I'm happy to cut more fire wood than have weeks of 100° weather. ;)
I burn about 4 or 5 cords per year if all hardwood but often collect some softwood too if the tree is dying or needs to be removed.
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Mostly spruce on top but there is a bunch of maple and beech under it.
Unlikely I will burn all of this but I have another cord or more of hardwood blocked up to be split for insurance if needed in the spring.
I have burned about 1/3 of a cord of fir (the empty rack in the foreground) so far.
I've burnt 2 pallets of firewood stacked 7 feet high so far. ;D Was out most of the morning walking before daylight and it was a cold wind at 27F. Walked about 10 miles up to the woodlot and out the trails. Only seen coyote and coon tracks. About 5 coyotes together by the looks of it, in fresh snow. The fire feels nice now and a handwoven mohair throw feels not too bad either. It has since become cloudy and looking to west is the beginning of snow falling from the sky on the Masardis hills. Cold nastiness. We go from clear skies to blizzard here awfully easy. Did same yesterday for weather. :D
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OK Guys, this has reached a grave situation of the utmost importance!! Wednesday the Weather Predictor Gal forecast 14°. Now she has retracted and is forecasting 13° 12° Yikes !!!
I am quite sure that you Glaciated Guys are at fault because that is where all of this frigid stuff originates. I do sincerely appreciate that you have not added that "ice cream" fluff to the mix.
Soooo.....
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This afternoon I had to wheelbarrow another week's supply of firewood up and add it to my porch supply.
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I clearly had a full Winter's supply neatly stacked and ready and now everything is messed up. ::)
13 degrees? Boy youse guys really have it tough! :D -19C right now (2F) and the Ram diesel still won't talk to me. The electric baseboard heaters aren't keeping me comfortable. :'(
better take the plants in Lynn. It is 12° here now and Dallas and I just got back from Bomgaars, and I did throw on a jacket. If youo stack it higher, it might keepthe snow from drifting your doors shut. My old boss Kenny Skeels used to have a saying when it was cold. Something about colder than a witches something or others in a brass bra! :)
I would think that a doc would know that what you are referencing is known as a mammary gland. Not good when they freeze. We've been getting a fair amount of above freezing temps and my wood supply is behind. So I'm not keeping a constant fire. Next week they predict temps in the lower teens so I'll fire it up and feed it some big pieces of good hardwood.
we have a minus 10 predicted in a few nights, with wind chill of - 25. Yes I have some idea what they are, and what Kenny called them rhymed with biddies. So, if I get in trouble, it is your fault KEC :snowball: :o :) :) :)
I surrender !! For me, Cold is like a race to the bottom and certainly one that I do not want to win. :snowball:
This is dangerous cold and we will have injuries and poss. death. folks start fires using electric heater in bad locations/cluttered room. or a gas or propane heater in the house and carbon monoxide poisoning. or exposure outside, and poss. slip and fall and cannot get up. not good to be living alone, elderly or ignorant. our wind chill is -22 this am.
Doc H:
If it's any consolation here, just a bit S of Burlington, VT, at 9:30 AM it was pouring rain and 40° F and the wind was less than a few hours ago. Next week the long range forcast is for lows of 10° F. As an FYI "long range forcast" also means subject to revision.
Note: The sawdust from the snow logs was going down.
GAB
I've still got about 8 cords left all dry. And 8 more green about 5 steps from the door. ;D
We haven't seen anything colder than 7F this winter. Their predictions for lows are off by as much as 10 degrees and some mornings, not very often, they are close. :D
As I type I'm toting in the wood .It usually takes about 6 totes but it looks like 4 is going to get-er-done today .Lot of difference between bone dry ash and good old white oak .Lot of difference in weight also .Dang oak is like lifting lead . Fot that matter a lot of difference of being 40 and 75 .Takes more rest periods these days .
Not much difference when dry like I go with firewood. 42 lbs for ash and 45 for white oak. Sugar maple is most common good firewood up here, it runs 44 lbs. These are @ 12% MC by the cu foot. We burn some hophornbeam, which is about 50 lbs. I burn mostly aspen and fir, it's 26 lbs dried. :D I don't mind cutting more because it's got to be thinned anyway. So might as well burn as rot. ;D
got my two new totes out. an extra for the house and one for the shop. I reinforced the bottoms with some 7/16th inch osb so the wood dropped on the bottom does not break the molded plastic bottom.
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I've got a canvas type fire wood toter .Best $17 I ever spent .About that light weight wood I've burned up all my tender dry cottonwood .It caught fire almost instantly and put out as much heat as oak but it only lasted half as long .Once again proving it's more about dry weight than cubic feet .About the sugar maple which I have a lot of .Seldom does it die off and I seldom cut a live tree for firewood .It does fine I just don't have a lot of it but the trees I do which are going to stand proud and tall as far as I'm concerned .That standing dead or down work just fine for me .
Doc, that cold truly is dangerous, and even more so in areas that aren't accustomed to it. Up here if you're not prepared for a winter of below zero temperatures on the regular, you won't survive. But when it gets that cold in more Southern areas people aren't used to or ready for it.
Magic- I'd like to say I feel bad for this cold blast hitting you, but if I'm being honest I think it serves you right after making fun of us frozen northern folk. "Oh look I got my 3 wheelbarrows of wood in, I'm good for the winter" you better get a few more now buddy!😁😁
Quote from: Al_Smith on January 13, 2024, 11:13:09 PM
it's more about dry weight than cubic feet .
Yep, for sure. Also a lot to do with house construction to. I don't have to burn wood all day. I've got windows here that put out a lot of heat from sun rays. ;D I never burn wood all night. My uncle in his old drafty farm house, never let the fire out. And that's rock maple and beech wood, much like your oak. I'd melt like a stick of butter if I did that. :D Green white oak is 15 lb heavier than green maple, there's a lot of drying time in comparison to. Some say at least 2 years on oak. Maple and aspen 12-16% between cutting in the fall and burning the next. :D And ash carries a lot less water than maple when green. When it dries I can hardly tell the difference in heft from when it was green. ;D Most of my hardwood is ash and maple, probably twice as much ash. It seems just as tolerant to shade as maple because it will poke it's way up through fir and spruce canopy where you will not see the sun shine. Again I'll leave a good ash to stand any day. Will the borer eventually get them, possibly. Maybe not to. They said you'd loose your fir in the budworm wave. That proved to be false. They attack mostly old stuff and stuff that lived a suppressed life. Most of the northern fire stuff is old fir ready to fall down anyway. The only disturbance up there is bugs, fire and old age. Go look at an old fir stand burning if you still want to claim old growth is more immune to fires. Millions of acres of the stuff burned last summer. :D Of course if you word old growth just right, it excludes the fire vulnerable species. How convenient. :D
My aspen is specific to old field and past cutting. There's 30 acres of fir ground that might have 15 aspen trees. There's spots were I cut 8 cord to the acre of aspen and still have trees 8 feet apart left. The more shade tolerant trees grow slower, so aspen can get above the canopy quick. That's more wood than DNR's aerial survey says is there per acre. They do that guestimating off photos. The only cruising that bunch does is in permanent sample plots. They used to have a plot across the road from my woodlot, but that was cut some years ago. They can't stop anyone from cutting the wood in those plots.
My fire seldom goes out .Ash by it's nature is a dry wood .Oak holds moisture .Cottonwood is 51 percent water but dries out fast when split .Maple if it's not cut and split will rot in the log .
I for one will not freeze in my own house ,I keep it warm .If I liked cold weather I'd move to Alaska .BTW as I type the temp is a big fat 0 at 7:40 AM .Thanks a lot lake Erie .
Nor I. Never seen ice form at 80+ degrees yet, either with wood or sun. ;)
Neighbor here leaves maple long length and cuts as needed. Several cord in a big pile by his barn. Not the way I'd have it, not so much rot, but it won't dry good. I've seen winter cut long length maple left in a grassy field that will support green leaves all summer long. So it sure ain't drying or rotting. I bet after two years it would be pretty punky and moldy.
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That being said, have seen lots of maple firewood split and piled uncovered for a year that was never rotten. The ends are black stained, but never rotten. No fan of doing that so much either, more about the wood bugs in the house. ::) Get'r cut and where you need it to be from the get go. ;)
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Quote from: barbender on January 13, 2024, 11:54:16 PM"Oh look I got my 3 wheelbarrows of wood in, I'm good for the winter" you better get a few more now buddy!
You just go right ahead and make fun, but I intend to stay warm no matter what you Glaciated Guys shove toward me....I'm Grits Tough. Anyway, I can refill that wheelbarrow if'en I need to, so there. :D
You guys get sassy when you are cold. We are up to -4° degrees from -10° overnight. cable TV still not working right. We did not go this year as we are down to finishing one eagle scout, but this was trappers Rondes've so scouts were camping this weekend. low temp record for Kansas.
Last Thursday was our sort of our last nice day here. I finished unloading a wood trailer about a cord into my Garn barn and put that trailer in another shed and put another full one in front of the Garn barn that is inside another shed. We received about a foot of snow Friday and Saturday and lots of wind. It was twenty below zero this AM and the radio said we had forty below wind chill. Went out to load the Garn and I didn't think the wind was too bad but it was cold. Its January in Nebraska and sometimes its like this. Looks like by Wed it may be twenty degrees. In the mean time I keep feeding hedge into the Garn three times a day and keep the skid loader plugged in. May head to town Monday to get some supplies. Haven't been off the farm since Thursday. Everyone stay safe.
I suppose climate has a profound effect on whether Hard Maple rots in the log. Frozen logs won't rot. In more temperate areas like KY, Hard Maple will absolutely rot in single season if left unsplit.
BTUs may all be equal but that doesn't mean burning qualities are equal. Burn Hickory for a day and see what you have left in the morning when you clean out the stove. Ash will be just that; an equal amount of hickory will leave you with an abundant bed of glowing coals. Knotty gnarly chunks will burn slower than straight grained of the same size and species.
Pound per pound at the same moisture content yields the same heat. It's been proven scientifically. Varying moisture is more significant than anything. A bed of coals will matter if your using a stove versus a force air furnace to. You could have a bed of coals 2" deep of maple or oak and the fan won't trip on the furnace. You have heat around the stove, but not the living spaces in the floors above except what ever floats by convection which is a fraction. This is why in loss of power we have 'gravity heat' with a lower fire going than normal, the house won't freeze but it won't get 85F degrees either. The side panel on the furnace needs removed to get air to cool. These days with generators, that is a mute point. But if the generator won't start, that's what your up against. :D And Hickory and hophornbeam has a lot more BTU's, they're 5 or 6 lbs heavier than hard maple and w. oak @12%. I have all kinds of hard maple coals in the morning when I burn that. But stove type makes a lot of different whether you benefit from it much. I can actually turn the fan on continuous to take advantage of that coal heat. Trouble is you'll be mighty hot in doing that since it don't care what the thermostat is saying to the furnace in that mode. I do that sometimes with aspen fire, because I'm heating the grow tent a little. Even that will get rather roasty with two slabs of aspen on the fire. :D A furnace has a bigger firebox compared to a stove working from convection and radiant heat. Mine is a mid sized furnace because I didn't want to have it so hot in here you have to open the doors. I already do the open window thing on a daily basis. Most days between 10 am and 5 pm I don't even use a fire. Not needed, might as well throw wood out on the rock pile as waste it when not needed and be hot as hades. Rarely do I keep a fire all night unless I know the temps will get into the single digits or colder. Usually no fire here after 9:00 pm until 4:00 am.
Remember we need heat up here 9 months a year. Mighty cold sitting in 50 degrees in early June or late September in your rocker. Around the 20th of June and 20th September you can get buy without heat. We can have some cool days in July in the 60's after a cold front moves in, a little heat feels nice on old arthritic bones. :D Up this way, if you don't have a furnace, you have 2 stoves if your heating 3000 + sq feet. A split level house or modulars, not no much. But often there is baseboard someplace, some have propane (very expensive). And cold floors means cold house. :D
BTU whatever. You can't fit a ton of dry poplar in your Tacoma but denser species you can. You might heat the same theoretical volume of water one degree but who cares. Real world application denser species are more efficient as the tons of dry matter means less filling of the stove and different species have differing burning characteristics. All BTUs are not the same. I can crank up my torpedo heater and put out 210,000 btu in an hour and the shop will be 90 and below freezing by morning or I can fill the woodstove with hickory at a low draft and putting out 30,000 btu/hour for 7 hours and the shop remain comfortable. Identical BTU input. Shop was either too hot or too cold with the fast-burning kerosene torpedo heater. 210=210 except in real life where it's not even close. I'll keep my Hickory.
Bringing up another load of wood for the kitchen cook stove. Going to fill the wood box in the garage. This has to be done about once a week.
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I broke down and brought up another wheelbarrow of wood yesterday. :snowball:
Yes, denser wood has more BTU, less volume. I've never claimed any different. But I know how different wood heating appliances works to, wood species be damned. I sure don't need a fire all day or night with aspen and fir, that goes for maple or hophornbeam as well, morning coals be darned when they don't turn a furnace fan. Better sit in front of the furnace door to feel it if the fan ain't on. Hickory and hornbeam is more BTU per cord than most firewoods. The thing with firewood versus oil, you still have the radiant heat, the fire is still there. The oil burner is off, nothing to radiate heat. Night and day between heating with wood and that with oil. Oil is off and on, dead stop. You can't turn burning wood off and on. I've got lots of aspen and fir to thin out and thus to burn. Never heard tell of 85F degrees being cold. Burning it is better than letting the wood rot, that would just be foolishness. Nothing will change my attitude on that. Some places list ash as better firewood than sugar maple, up there with oak. Up here, ash firewood is considered the lesser species compared to sugar maple, yellow birch and beech. No one will buy the stuff at all. Beech actually isn't that far below hickory for btu's.
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I'll keep my Hickory.
It's good stuff .I'm down to maybe a half a cord and it's not all dry . Not much talked about because it doesn't grow every where .Pops and snaps but it puts out the heat .I had intentions of getting more but the daily tasks of life got in my way this year ..I'm a wuss in weather like this ,too danged cold to freeze my behind off going to the woods .2 below with gusts today . :o
14F here today. Won't burn much wood, by 10:00 am again the fire will be left to burn out, start up at 5:00 pm or so, good for the night. If it were going to go down real cold, I would shove some wood in around 1:00 am. 80F+ is just fine, I'd actually prefer 75F, but no on off switch to wood fire. Don't worry I'll never freeze at 80F. :D
I had mentioned previously of a standing dead shagbark I didn't have time to drop this fall .Well it just so happened evidenly a day or so ago the wind did it for me ..Mrs Smith had heard a mighty thump while I was snoring away in my chair and there it was,90-100 feet of it 30 inches on the butt end .Plus right in line with my splitter .Easy enough ,cut it into 12 feet logs and drag it out with the tractor . Now if it would just warm up about 20-25 degrees I'll get right on it . A hickory is another one that's not rot resistant .This one has been dead so long the wood will be bone dry .
Two years ago, a 24 inch sugar maple broke off that was sitting along the road to the woodlot. Wouldn't be more than 80 foot. Once I seen it on the ground I saw that the back side of it had some dead wood on the trunk. Probably rubbed years ago yarding wood out by it. Can't rule out beavers either, they dam that brook near there. On the edge of neighbor's land. Which one could easily make the case that it was on the crown reserve. But by the time I saw it on the ground it had been manufactured into fire wood, leaving the rotten section behind. I'd say it had been maybe 2 days since I drove past there. There's actually a few 20" or more sized trees right around there, it's near a brook, so was never cut much.
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Yuppers, I gots Snow on da deck, 22° and dropping, and plenty of firewood brought up. Here, hold my Purple Drank 'cause I gots this. :snowball:
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Even built ah Snowman..... :)
Jeepers Lyn, Looking t your snow man I will never again be able to say you didn't do the least you could do. That's a monumental effort right there. :D :D
Just got home from the monthly chiro tune up. Every visit he hands me a sheet to fill out explaining my pain, any changes, etc.
There are two questions that ask:
'What causes your pain to increase?" Which I usually answer "Work" and the other aks "What do you find relieves your pain?" and I usually answer ""Rest".
This time I answered to the first one: "Fire wood" and to the second I answered :sitting by the fire".
He came in read, the chart, and just said "OK, I get it". :D
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Yuppers, I gots Snow on da deck, 22° and dropping, and plenty of firewood brought up. Here, hold my Purple Drank 'cause I gots this. :snowball:
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Even built ah Snowman..... :)
Oldest grandson traveled from here in upstate SC to Hill AFB in Utah this week. (Took a DOD contractor job working with F35 program where he was in the USAF for 6 years prior to his getting out) Made the decision (good one) to take the southern most route across country to avoid winter weather. His first day out he spent the night in Biloxi with a former USAF buddy. Woke the next morning early to ice sickle hanging off his truck and super bad road conditions on I-10. Even had several detours off interstate due to bad bridges and accidents.. Told him it appeared that the only way to completely avoid the weather this year was to go through the Gulf of Mexico :D. He made it to Utah last night unscathed thankfully!!
I am glad that he made the trip safely. move_it
We are forecast to see 18° for the next two nights and then rain for the next week but thankfully no temps below freezing.
That's quite a journey across the continent for anyone in the winter. Glad he's safe on the other end. A lad I worked with in BC tried to go through the mountains in the winter headed east and never made it. Not the place to be in a blizzard.
I had hope that by now I wouldn't have to run the woodstove in the basement but just use the kitchen stove to supply enough heat till we didn't need heat any more. But with this weather we need the basement stove and it is still burning strong but I've run out of wood in the basement so I have to bring in more wood from the barn. Usually I use the small Cub Cadet with the dump trailer to transport firewood right to the sliders to the basement. However with turf tires the Cub Cadet is no good in the snow and I've got 3" on an inch of sleet. So, I'll have to use the tractor. But, the ground is soft under the snow so I can't drive the tractor on the lawn. I'll have to drive the tractor around thru the field in back of the house up to the edge of the lawn and use a wheelbarrow to transport the wood into the basement. That should be fun! :uhoh:
Crap, you are still bringin' up wood and I wheelbarrowed my remaining/unused wood back to the woodshed last week.
I hate for you guys that are still getting glacier blasted. We have rain all of this coming week with lows in the high 40's & 50's.
Only bringing up I did was a year ago. Right now bringing it 5 steps from the pile to the stove door. No one will say I ran out of seasoned stove wood near the stove. ffcheesy
I am still splitting wood for the shop stove to keep it going. It's my only heat there and we are still in the low 30's most nights. Today it should get over 40 in the afternoon. My house stove is running right ow, but I let it dies during the daylight hours, then re-fire in the evening.
So, bringing up the wood today.
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The fire is burning merrily with the new load of wood.
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My trusty old tractor is waiting patiently for me to take her back to the barn.
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Monday and Tuesday highs in the 60s so I should be able to shut the stove down then.
It's about 100' from the basement door to the wood shed. Usually I shovel or snowblow a path and use my wood dolly with bicycle tires to bring in large wheel barrow sized loads of wood and park it next to the stove. But I waited to long to make my path and snow is to heavy for me to want to shovel and the under powered blower only likes fluffy stuff when it is this deep. The ground is soft. So I'll have to use one of the old boat sleds we have from when the grandkids were small. Can drag that through the door and next to the stove too.
Won't have to use that sled for long. I suppose you will be getting that 60° weather? We are having rain-snow showers off and on all day. That will make the snow soft. I hope.
It should be gone by the end of the week if not sooner. Even at cloudy 40* it is melting.
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It took 4 days of wind and rain at 40° to take down 20" of snow 2 weeks ago. ffcheesy There's still 2" of crusty snow here in fields that will take a good week of warm weather to melt. Will be mostly gone by next Friday. Hasn't done a thing here all day. I see some bad weather off to the west of here in Maine. We get short peeks of sun here.
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I brought up a bunch of wood too. But that snow should be well on its way by Monday night.
Had a light drizzle here all day, that made the snow even wetter.