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Title: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 08:00:41 PM
Anyone else out there getting calls and requests specifically for rough cut lumber? They want full dimension, bandsawn lumber and willing to pay a premium. I can't keep up with orders, and I'm pricing ABOVE kiln dried, dressed prices. Seems like folks are after that ole rustic look. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: PAmizerman on February 21, 2018, 08:18:43 PM
That's all I sell. I've never sold any planned material. But then again it's all hemlock.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 21, 2018, 08:20:38 PM
Been experiencing it for 7 years.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Southside on February 21, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
Reclaimed wood, farm tables, rustic flooring, and walnut tops, all the in thing these days.  We can thank HGTV for it.  
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Magicman on February 21, 2018, 08:25:18 PM
The reason that I was called to saw that 230 mile away road trip job detailed on the "Whatcha Sawin" topic was that the customer wanted rough cut posts, beams, and timbers.  I sawed ~12Mbf and now he is calling and wanting me to come back as soon as possible.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 08:26:06 PM
Quote from: Southside logger on February 21, 2018, 08:20:45 PM
Reclaimed wood, farm tables, rustic flooring, and walnut tops, all the in thing these days.  We can thank HGTV for it.  
Aside from the specialty wood, and "exotics". People are desperate for anything they can get. Even after I explain that squirrels were running on it that morning. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: redbeard on February 21, 2018, 09:34:03 PM
Saw this the other day and thought it was good advertising for sawmillers
Buying Lumber Directly from the Sawmill - Money Saving Hacks for Woodworking Part 3 - YouTube (https://youtu.be/FCqAHAcevCk)
Edit: 
Well I can't find the one I wanted too share. That was more pertaining to this thread. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Dave Shepard on February 21, 2018, 10:43:16 PM
I think I'm the third largest sawmill in my county, but only because there only three sawmills in my county.  :D There used to be many, now there are none even close to the scale of what used to be here. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Ga Mtn Man on February 22, 2018, 08:22:56 AM
irv00- Should I stop sending folks your way when they call looking for lumber?  I'd hate to see y'all having to stay open on Saturday just to keep up.  :laugh:
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: goose63 on February 22, 2018, 10:55:15 AM
I have a guy that comes from Ft Dodge Iowa 100 to 200 bf at atime green off the mill 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/33477/DSCN1187.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1510176044)

This 100 bf when he askd how much I told him $500 he brought cash Morri just let me know he would like more now if it would just warm up so I can get back to milling
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Brad_bb on February 22, 2018, 11:05:20 AM
Rough circle sawn I can understand.  But with a woodmizer, you don't get good sawmarks unless you're dull or have hit a nail.  I actually bought some rough circle sawn oak that had been sitting a while and was grayed.  By the time I finished it, it was close enough match to the barnwood I was using when I ran short.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: scully on February 22, 2018, 12:18:49 PM
It is a craze ! I know this young lady that started a printing business . She called me and asked if I would mill and build her some "rough cut " lumber shelves . I laughed so hard when she handed me a bunch of printed pictures of rough cut lumber so I would know what it looked like . I did the job with 2" thick pine slabs live one edge 16' long  4 shelves . She almost had tears in her eyes ! I don't see this trend dying off any time soon . As for reclaimed stuff I have seen pit sawn walnut and it is real nice !
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 22, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
Goose,

   I'm betting that was 1,000 bf not 100 based on the size of the trailer and such. Can you clarify?
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Jeff on February 22, 2018, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on February 22, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
Goose,

  I'm betting that was 1,000 bf not 100 based on the size of the trailer and such. Can you clarify?
Yea goose, that looks to me like between 750 and a 1000 feet presuming it is 8 ft long.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: PC-Urban-Sawyer on February 22, 2018, 01:34:13 PM
And if that's a hundred bf, I'll take a couple thousand bf as soon as I can get a semi there to pick it up...

Herb
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: goose63 on February 22, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
OOOOPS my bad it was 700 bf boy you guys sure on the ball eh  ;D
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WV Sawmiller on February 22, 2018, 02:32:20 PM
Goose,

   Glad you cleared that up as to the amount and the price. I know my 5X8 trailer stacked level with the top of the side rails is about 500 bf. Also I'd hate to see you selling lumber for 50 cents a bf. I do sell my poplar and pine for 75 cents a bf (and that's probably too cheap) but more for everything else.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Bert on February 22, 2018, 05:42:34 PM
Rough circle sawn? Wish i could find these people. It is a look that many flooring mfgs copy but yet I cant deal it. Done a few, but no real guarantee on steady business.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 22, 2018, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Mt Yonah is long gone. Its me and Hogan now. Last two sawmills standing. Atlanta hardwood and Wilbanks lumber are still running their lumber yards. Thats pretty much it for North Georgia.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 22, 2018, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: Ga Mtn Man on February 22, 2018, 08:22:56 AM
irv00- Should I stop sending folks your way when they call looking for lumber?  I'd hate to see y'all having to stay open on Saturday just to keep up.  :laugh:
Send em on! I'll do my best! Get by here one day and lets talk! 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: SawyerTed on February 22, 2018, 08:13:24 PM
I've got 1200 bdft of 4/4 rough sawn 6", 8"' and 10" wide white oak.  The 6" is 12', the rest is mostly 8'.   The trees came down in 1989 in Hurricane Hogo and has been air dried since it was milled.

I can't find a buyer!  What am I doing wrong? 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WLC on February 23, 2018, 12:37:18 AM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 22, 2018, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Mt Yonah is long gone. Its me and Hogan now. Last two sawmills standing. Atlanta hardwood and Wilbanks lumber are still running their lumber yards. Thats pretty much it for North Georgia.
Yall still out there in Leaf?
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: TKehl on February 23, 2018, 07:19:51 AM
Quote from: goose63 on February 22, 2018, 10:55:15 AMI have a guy that comes from Ft Dodge Iowa 100 to 200 bf at atime green off the mill 


Goose, I had to map that out of curiosity.  That's 5 hours and 45 minutes to your place.  He's actually closer to me than you!  :D
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: goose63 on February 23, 2018, 10:04:24 AM
Quote from: TKehl on February 23, 2018, 07:19:51 AM
Quote from: goose63 on February 22, 2018, 10:55:15 AMI have a guy that comes from Ft Dodge Iowa 100 to 200 bf at atime green off the mill


Goose, I had to map that out of curiosity.  That's 5 hours and 45 minutes to your place.  He's actually closer to me than you!  :D
Yea he said some thing about going to Mo but he came ofer here and likes my red pine now we are wateing for the weather to get better so he can come back for more
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: TKehl on February 23, 2018, 01:28:28 PM
Well, wasn't me.  Not trying to steal your customer.  Don't have any Red Pine anyway.  

On the other hand, if he wants some Eastern Red Cedar, you are welcome to give him my number.   :D
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: goose63 on February 23, 2018, 01:39:55 PM
TKehl

Nrxt time I talk to him I will pm me your cell # I will pass it on
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 06:53:54 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 23, 2018, 12:37:18 AM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 22, 2018, 07:54:47 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 21, 2018, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 21, 2018, 09:54:17 PM
What are they wanting?  Pine, hardwood, or does it matter? Green, or air dried or does that matter?  I guess lots of construction is still going on in your part of the world.  That area has been growing a lot since the late 60's/early 70's when Helen went from sawmill town to alpine wonderland.

Grew up in Robertstown.
Growing up I can remember 20 sawmills within 20 miles of us. Now theres 2. Seems like the push is more "rustic" these days. They don't care what it costs. Green off the mill is ok with them.
Yep, I guess yall and Mt Yonah are the only two?  Or is Mt Yonah closed down now?  Haven't been home in several years so don't really know.  Is the hardwood flooring plant still there in Cleveland?
Mt Yonah is long gone. Its me and Hogan now. Last two sawmills standing. Atlanta hardwood and Wilbanks lumber are still running their lumber yards. Thats pretty much it for North Georgia.
Yall still out there in Leaf?
Yup. Same spot. Come on by and visit sometime!
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 23, 2018, 06:56:03 PM
I see the update made the Quote button have a hair pin trigger.  :D
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WLC on February 23, 2018, 07:10:45 PM
May just do that the next time we come home for a visit.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 23, 2018, 06:56:03 PM
I see the update made the Quote button have a hair pin trigger.  :D
I still aint figured this site out. Its a miracle I can post pics. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
"Hair trigger" is an understatement.  :-\

I can not see the need to have 5 quotes just to make a simple response such as in Reply #29?
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on February 23, 2018, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
"Hair trigger" is an understatement.  :-\

I can not see the need to have 5 quotes just to make a simple response such as in Reply #29?
:D :D :D
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Southside on February 23, 2018, 07:51:44 PM
Full Auto quote... on the Forum... (https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/rifle.gif)
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Sorry. I wont use the reply anymore. This is a difficult forum to use. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Kbeitz on February 23, 2018, 08:20:26 PM
Don't let the old timers scare you away.... Quote away...It doesn't bother me...
It was good for a laugh...
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: CX3 on February 23, 2018, 08:22:58 PM
Lol I was thinking man that guys tape measure is broke lol
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 08:52:39 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PMThis is a difficult forum to use.
Nothing wrong with the forum.  I was simply pointing out how difficult it is to read and understand replies with multiple quotes stacked on top of one another. 
 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
Just trying to reply specifically to someone replying to me. Other forums are much easier to use, and don't require a rocket scientist to post pics. But neither here nor there. Have fun. 
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Southside on February 23, 2018, 08:58:31 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Sorry. I wont use the reply anymore. This is a difficult forum to use.
Don't apologize - good group of guys here and the more they bust your chops the more they like you - well at least that is what I have convinced myself of!!  
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 09:14:01 PM
irvi00 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=20819), you have read enough of my replies to know that the only intent that I ever have here is to help someone.  If I seemed to come on a bit strong or critical, then I apologize because that was never my intent.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: paul case on February 23, 2018, 09:36:06 PM
The thing about the Quotes that confuses me is when the quoter writes his response inside the quote box.

I am quite easily confused though.

I have had a 4 month up tick in the want for my lumber because it is rough sawn and native. No kidding. There aren't many people offering the services that I do near me.
PC
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2018, 09:48:08 PM
Quote from: irvi00 on February 23, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Sorry. I wont use the reply anymore. This is a difficult forum to use.
Find another then. There has only been going on two million posts here. Yea, it must be tough to be here. I try my best to make this place the best it can be and then I read crap like this.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2018, 10:05:26 PM
I just went over every one of your posts. Not one time did you ask for help with something in regards to posting a photo or a forestry forum function. In fact, until just this topic, you hadn't even griped about anything.  I just spent I would imagine around 200 hours in the last month going over the Forestry Forum to try and make it better for everyone going forward.  EXCUSE ME ALL TO ---- for being a bit thinned skinned at the moment.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WLC on February 23, 2018, 11:10:44 PM
Quote from: Magicman on February 23, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
"Hair trigger" is an understatement.  :-\

I can not see the need to have 5 quotes just to make a simple response such as in Reply #29?
Its the way the quote function works.  I've seen the ability to choose to single quote or quote the entire message string on other forums.  This forum doesn't use that feature, or have that feature in its software and when you hit the quote button you get the whole string. He was only making sure that I knew he was responding to me.  Seems the neighborly thing to do .

Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: LeeB on February 23, 2018, 11:14:28 PM
Quote from: WLC on February 23, 2018, 11:10:44 PM

Its the way the quote function works.  I've seen the ability to choose to single quote or quote the entire message string on other forums.  This forum doesn't use that feature, or have that feature in its software and when you hit the quote button you get the whole string. He was only making sure that I knew he was responding to me.  Seems the neighborly thing to do .
Quotes can be edited to remove the unwanted segments. Highlight the parts of the quote you want to insert and the hit the quote button.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Southside on February 23, 2018, 11:21:12 PM
The new function, using the highlight, is an AWESOME feature.  Jeff - or maybe it was my good buddy  Testaccount - did a video on this feature and it breaks it all down.  If this technology dinosaur can do it - anybody can.  
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Jeff on February 23, 2018, 11:24:35 PM
Selection Quoting
sentence or selection quoting - YouTube (https://youtu.be/wsUZwWs5fm8)
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: WLC on February 23, 2018, 11:43:16 PM
Quote from: Southside logger on February 23, 2018, 11:21:12 PMThe new function, using the highlight, is an AWESOME feature.


OK, Figured that one out.  Never seen this feature on another forum.  Cool!!  Thanks.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: Magicman on February 24, 2018, 07:59:22 AM
I understand making a quote to direct the reply to a specific person but 5 quotes repeating the entire conversation of both parties blew my screen.  My reply was not directed toward either individual but toward the need to not use excessive multiple quotes.

The new quote features that Jeff recently incorporated are awesome but even before that we have always been able to snip/delete the excess quote content.
Title: Re: "Rough cut"
Post by: trapper on February 24, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
quote worked perfect for me  deleted the part I didn't want and added my comment to to the post