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Title: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: mspeed on March 21, 2018, 08:16:22 PM
My husband and I are new to sawing. We recently purchased a Timberking 1220 bandsaw mill and are developing an interest in building a Timber Frame structure. We are in Eastern Washington and are surrounded by Ponderosa Pine. I'm curious of the appropriateness of using Ponderosa Pine for a TF structure.
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: flyingparks on March 21, 2018, 08:48:27 PM
Ponderosa has good compressive strength. Not the best bending strength. Good for posts. Not the best for horizontal members.That's not to say they couldn't be used in that application. I built a little shed completely out of ponderosa and it's still standing proud...but it's a little shed. I would question any significant span and perhaps get the advice of an engineer. 
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: Dave Shepard on March 21, 2018, 08:55:41 PM
It's ot to be stronger than Eastern White, and you can build anything with EWP, just make the section big enough. Welcome to the Forum.
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: starmac on March 21, 2018, 11:37:04 PM
There is a sight you might find useful, it is the wood database. You can compare the ponderosa to about any tree you can think of.
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: Dakota on March 22, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
I built my frame out of ponderosa.  I just made sure that my spans were under 16'.  It's great wood to work with.

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Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: mspeed on March 22, 2018, 01:47:58 PM
Dakota- Did you mill your timbers yourself? If so, did you Box the heart? Did you have much issue with twisting?
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: Dakota on March 23, 2018, 09:20:25 AM
Yes, I milled my own timbers.  I boxed the heart on all of them.  I had only one twist a little bit on me.  It was a 24 ft. tie beam, so I had to scramble a bit on that one, but it wasn't bad.

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Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: flyingparks on March 23, 2018, 11:02:13 AM
Quote from: Dakota on March 22, 2018, 08:32:30 AM
I built my frame out of ponderosa.  I just made sure that my spans were under 16'.  It's great wood to work with.

That is a wonderful frame!
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: Dakota on March 23, 2018, 11:17:23 AM
Thank you.  It's a tad overbuilt, but we get a lot of snow.
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: mspeed on March 23, 2018, 02:07:30 PM
Dakota- Can I ask where you are located?
Title: Re: Ponderosa Pine in Timber Framing
Post by: Dakota on March 24, 2018, 11:18:38 AM
Deadwood/Lead, SD are the closest towns.  My place is 16 mi. south of Deadwood on Hwy 85, and about 3 miles off the road.