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Title: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: tlbrooks on March 25, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
I got a deal on some chop rail saws. I cant find any model numbers but it looks like a Olympyk by oleo mac  999 and a stihl ? 076 maybe . are these worth converting to a chainsaw ? thanks for any help.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: Al_Smith on March 26, 2018, 05:07:52 AM
IMO they are probably worth more as rail saws .
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: tlbrooks on March 26, 2018, 10:05:29 AM
you may be right. ive wanted to buy a chainsaw mill and I thought to use one for the power head would work.i know granburg has a manual drip oiler I could use. it may take two to do the job if the saw doesn't oil. 
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: teakwood on March 27, 2018, 07:48:40 AM
what's a chop saw? rail saw?
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on March 27, 2018, 08:25:50 AM
Looks like its a heavy duty cut off saw that could literally cut railroad rails.
A portable metal cutoff saw.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: mike_belben on March 27, 2018, 06:21:48 PM
Pretty common tool around concrete work, for cutting rebar and slitting control joints into a slab.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: teakwood on March 28, 2018, 07:35:11 AM
ahhh ok, know i now

I couldn't see how these chop saws can be converted into a chain saw. but would like to see how its done
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: HolmenTree on March 28, 2018, 08:58:58 AM
If someone was to go to all the trouble converting one then I suggest do it to a Stihl TS 500i with fuel injection.
You'd then be the first person to own a saw closest to a MS 500i.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: mike_belben on March 28, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
Quote from: teakwood on March 28, 2018, 07:35:11 AM
ahhh ok, know i now

I couldn't see how these chop saws can be converted into a chain saw. but would like to see how its done
Instead of a sprocket they have a vee belt pulley.  Instead of a chainbrake cover they have an arm bolted on that holds the cutoff disc hub and guarding.  
I dont recall on oil tanks and pumps though.  I parted out a dolmar and an efco maybe??  Years ago.  
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: sawguy21 on March 28, 2018, 12:39:29 PM
I don't know if it would be practical. Is the case machined for oil delivery? By the time all is said and done, a used saw would be cheaper.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: tlbrooks on March 28, 2018, 02:31:51 PM
well I check the saws and none  have drilled oil passages. the look like they have   factory chain adjuster on them. the olypyk 999 has the adjustable oil port marked for a oiler but its plugged. the stihl looks to be low hours because the starter pawl is locked up. it has to be pried to get it to move. could you  use one on a chain mill with  a manual drip oiler? would a drip oiler work for a 48 inch bar or less?  
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: Al_Smith on March 28, 2018, 03:55:28 PM
While nothing is impossible some times it's impractical .It's kind of like people taking a Stihl 038 AV chainsaw and adapting a Stihl 038 Magnum cylinder to it to in essence make in a Magnum .When truth be known more 038 Magnums were built than the Av model in the first place .Besides all that a concrete/rail saw comes in handy at times .
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: mike_belben on March 28, 2018, 09:48:16 PM
 capstan winch
 water pump 
Circle style chop saw for a limb processor
Sawdust blower
Leaf vac
Go kart/minibike
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: tlbrooks on March 29, 2018, 12:19:33 AM
ive been craving a lewis winch.  is the clutch the same as the two piece sprocket? ive found some on ebay.






 



Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: mike_belben on March 29, 2018, 10:15:10 AM
i believe theyll most likely be outboard style vee belt pulley formed into the outer clutch shell rather than a sprocket or spline.  But ive not seen them all so dont hold me to it.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: tlbrooks on March 29, 2018, 09:34:30 PM
I wonder if the clutch itself is the same as a two piece clutch/rim sprocket ? the belt drive looks like a good set up to drive a winch but the lewis uses a chain to drive it. it seems that the 076 isn't well liked but I still may try to use it on a sawmill. I also see that its made in brazil .  
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: starmac on March 30, 2018, 01:43:30 AM
I personally think the 076 would be a jam up mill saw. I think I have read that some of the ignition parts used in some of them are no longer available. That was a few years ago, the after market guys may have come up with something by now though.

The 090, would be better, but they are even harder to come by, and then there is the money they bring, if in good shape.
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: Al_Smith on April 28, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
Chainsaw milling is an option but a very labor intensive way to make lumber .Rich Dougan,AKA "Sawking " told of milling massive Douglas fir beams around 90 feet long for a rehab of a historical covered bridge in Oregon using a Stihl  090 which he first rebuilt  .It took forever but it was the only option for that situation .I might add it took forever just to find suitable trees to even think about doing the job .I can't imagine .
Title: Re: chop saw converted to chainsaw
Post by: Don P on April 28, 2018, 10:24:45 PM
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10017/60onroad.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1497390591)
We made a couple of 60' 12x12's for a barn rebuild last year with the Alaskan mill.
A Lucas mill slabbing bar uses gravity fed 30 wt oil from the nose, they want 30 there because it doesn't need to stick around the nose.