Ankle still soar but had to get out of the house. Wore my BIG boot to protect my ankle but me and Kirk conquered that Cherry Log.
I'll have to say I'm not sure what it weighed but it was my mill's limit.....no doubt.
Broke the chain unloading it with the grapple and back hoe and could actually pick it up only 4 foot off the ground.
Finally got it loaded on the mill using the loading arms and pushing against it with the forks. Since I couldn't turn it with the log turner or the clamp or the log turner and clamp working together, it took us 2 times to get it placed right with the back hoe forks.
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Here's Kirk declaring "a win"......little did he know we were just getting started.
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A kind word to Woodmizer......ya need to move the key switch box to the left side. As it stands, the key switch sticks out past the up and down rails and sometime we need that extra width.
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After prying and pulling with the backhoe we got it situated for our first cut.
It took up every inch I bought on this mill.
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We produced some really nice slabs out of this log with no flaws in it at all.
These slabs were soooo heavy at 2-1/2" thick x wide. I wasn't much help at moving these due to my ankle but Super Trooper grabbed them like a weekend speeder.
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I didn't get a picture but a 10 inch mantel came out of the dead center. The Mantel was perfect all the way around with the pith and all it's secrets inside.
Then the rest of our time was sawing on down until we had nothing left.
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Got it all loaded on the trailer.
A total of 6 different customer plus the owner of this log came by and looked at it.
This log was the best advertisement I've ever had. Took the mill to the max and had witnesses. :D
Realizing what he had, we were paid and given a $100.00 tip. 8)
Today is what its all about! :)
Not bad Hopalong Widehead
Not a bad day for a one hoofed wonder at all.
Quote from: starmac on April 03, 2018, 07:58:34 PM
Not a bad day for a one hoofed wonder at all.
:D :D :D :D
I bet that you were glad to see that sucker gone.
Quote from: WDH on April 03, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
I bet that you were glad to see that sucker gone.
Yes I was....it started out fun, then I don't know why my feelings changed. :D :D :D :D
Dont need WM to move the key! You NEED the LT50 WIDE head MILL! ;D
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on April 03, 2018, 08:17:13 PM
Quote from: WDH on April 03, 2018, 08:09:32 PM
I bet that you were glad to see that sucker gone.
Yes I was....it started out fun, then I don't know why my feelings changed. :D :D :D :D
Maybe it had something to do with that 100 dollar tip, just think of all the sweet feed a guy can get with that.
Congrats to both you and Kirk for a job well done. I have a love/hate relationship with those big'uns.
"Grabbed them like a weekend speeder" 😂😂😂 That was a heck of a log, one hoof widehead!
Good job, I see you made the door bigger to load logs.
Nice work David!
Is that smoke I see in the background of the next to the last photo? You didn't hobble out there and check it out? :D
Awesome....Im jonesing bad for the wide head. Must have that mill tweeked fine for big cuts like that. I am humbled and all I can say is "Baaaaaaaa"...wait!! Issat a sheep?
WOW! Nice log and some great looking boards.
I'm afraid if my mill saw a log like that it would leave the job all by itself, probably crying. running-doggy
David,
Congrats and well done to you and Kirk. I did not know those soft shoes came with steel toes. I hope the 10" mantel you mention was 10" wide and not 10" thick!
I recently cut a 4.5" thick walnut slab out of a similar sized log that scaled out at 122 bf and it weighs close to 600 lbs. I can only imagine how heavy it would have been if 10" thick.
Mantel was 10 x 18 x 8. :o :o :o :o YEP!
I calculate 120 bf and toolbox says 456 lbs. Wow is right. I hope they have stout corbels or side supports!
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on April 03, 2018, 09:50:44 PM
Mantel was 10 x 18 x 8. :o :o :o :o YEP!
Thats not a mantel - that's a DanG bridge timber!!!
NICE cherry, for sure! I have done that same wrestle. Starts out with lots of anticipation and enthusiasm, which seems to diminish as the tasks set in. :o
Blade: Let's talk blade(s). What did you use and what kinda feed rate? I have stopped using Turbo7's on my 40Wide for super-wide cuts as they just don't git'er done.
Curious what you are finding works best. I've moved to carbide. WORLD of difference!
I think Widehead only uses 4° bands
That was the old Poston - the new Posthole is a turbo convert. :D
PA Walnut.....about the blades....
As I have said in a lot of my posts, I can only report what's works for me.
I used 2 blade for this entire job.
I put on a re sharp Turbo 7 each time.
The reason I used 2 blades is there were a lot of times I could not use the debarker.
I wanted to keep the sharpest blade cutting at all times.
The feed rate was slow and I mean very slow on the widest cuts. It was really tight.
Twice I experienced Cherry bark in the chain and the head would stop. I knew what it was each time as Cherry bark is notorious for wedging in the chain and stopping the head from moving forward.
I slowly let the blade do it's job and poured the lube to it. The PSI was set at 4,000 and fell and stabilized at 3800.
I didn't get any lines across the face or dips or rises.
Would a 4 degree have worked just as good sawing this wide? I don't know, I knew the T7 would work for me and that was my blade choice.
Every cut was perfect.
We worked a little over 3 hours starting when we unloaded to when we loaded.
Bruno.....I have quite a few boxes of Turbo 7 blades now.
Beautiful cherry! I've been using the Ripper 37, 7 degree. Worked well but getting to expensive and no more free shipping. I'm trying the Cook's super sharp now. Bought their dual tooth setter and sharpener. Even with exchange a better price.
I've put a few white oak and walnut on the mill like that. Working alone I use the thumb on the backhoe But its risky. If something slips or a bit the wrong way and the mills damaged. Gotta stay focused. The lumber worth it but relived when done.
I've got 1 old cherry about 4' diameter still alive. Makes me nervous just looking at it. I'm thinking it's rotten or hollow at the base. I'll wait. :(
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Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on April 03, 2018, 09:50:44 PM
Mantel was 10 x 18 x 8. :o :o :o :o YEP!
Thats not a mantel - that's a DanG bridge timber!!!
Actually the Mantel is 10 x 30 x almost 9. He's wanting it resawn to 10 x 18 later for a mountain house.
Heres proof.
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But I'm like you Jim......bridge timber. :D :D :D
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 03, 2018, 09:57:52 PM
I calculate 120 bf and toolbox says 456 lbs. Wow is right. I hope they have stout corbels or side supports!
IF that log is 8' foot long by 38" diameter small end you must have at least 578 BF by the Doyle log rule and cutting with a Band saw you will be closer to 724 BF. At 10 foot long you will *DanG close to a 1000 board feet.
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on April 04, 2018, 09:46:26 AMI slowly let the blade do it's job and poured the lube to it. The PSI was set at 4,000 and fell and stabilized at 3800. I didn't get any lines across the face or dips or rises.
Hmmm...Maybe I'm just going too fast. But when I go too slow the blade heats up and tension continues to drop. How long are you taking on one of those super-wide cuts? Just a guess...
THanks!
Now that is a wow log, and one work out for your pay cheque. :D I figured out now why we cut'm down before they get much bigger than 18" up here. (In late years, barely 10" :D) Lordy, I ain't lugging and pulling on that heavy stuff. ;D :D
Quote from: PA_Walnut on April 04, 2018, 01:44:20 PM
Hmmm...Maybe I'm just going too fast. But when I go too slow the blade heats up and tension continues to drop. How long are you taking on one of those super-wide cuts? Just a guess...
THanks!
Not sure about the time but I creeped through it. My blade didn't heat up at all. I poured the lube to it, sawed down to the top of the mantel. Completely flipped the log and changed blades. Then sawed down to the top of the mantel again. Neither blade heated up and I will be able to use these blades again on Pine or Poplar. All the slabs came as I sawed to the Mantel on each side. Again, none of my blades heated up.
Bandmill,
I was talking just the mantel when I thought it was 18" wide X 10" thick X 8' long and not the whole log when I was saying 120 bf and 486 lbs or so. Now that David has confirmed it is over 30" wide and about 9' long it sounds like 225 bf for the mantel alone, let alone the remaining side lumber.
How will he secure the mantel to his fireplace? Better have vertical supports on both ends or that's going to be one dangerous piece of wood IMHO.
Sounds like the plan is for the mantle to support the rock chimney.
PA Walnut, thought about it all afternoon.
Mills and blades are made to be sawn at different speeds.
Not sure why yours would be heating up. I don't think you and I saw that many different species.
Most big logs I saw that produce expensive slabs like Cherry, Walnut, Red and White Oak or anything else.....I generally use a brand new blade. I don't like to take a chance on a re sharp having a flaw on a tooth or set and making lines, diving or anything else.....not saying a new blade would do it if it had a flaw on it but my chances are less using a brand new blade.
Just can't figure why yours heats up.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 04, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
How will he secure the mantel to his fireplace? Better have vertical supports on both ends or that's going to be one dangerous piece of wood IMHO.
Bronze goats holding it up, one on either side.
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Quote from: WV Sawmiller on April 04, 2018, 03:40:12 PM
How will he secure the mantel to his fireplace? Better have vertical supports on both ends or that's going to be one dangerous piece of wood IMHO.
Bronze goats one on either side.
The fireplace is not built yet but will be built with an offset shelf for the mantel to set on.
Actually that a good idea for that much weight. A Black Cherry Mantel on a stone fireplace will look nice. 8)
Bring that wide head down to the project and lets test it out a bit.
Nice job club foot. I still jump on a big one from time to time then I think, what were you thinking.
David, that cherry and the job Kirk and you did on it is impressive. Why not bring that new mill to Jake's? I suspect he can locate a log with enough girth to give you an opportunity to display the virtues of a wideheaded band mill.
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Oh man, I can see a session of 'reverse roll quarter sawing' on a wide WM coming up . . . I hope! smiley_blue_bounce
How do we sweeten the deal for David to make this happen?
Quote from: Andries on April 05, 2018, 03:31:44 PM
Oh man, I can see a session of 'reverse roll quarter sawing' on a wide WM coming up . . . I hope! smiley_blue_bounce
How do we sweeten the deal for David to make this happen?
say_what I'm thunking.
I thought I was seeing smoke signals.
How about a couple of big white oaks and/or sycamores to practice on...
Nice cuts! Ya gotta love that fat head;)
I bet WDH could find a 40" pecan he's been saving for just such as occasion. :D