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Title: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 08:34:51 PM
Every time I saw stickers when the blade exits the end, the blade pulls a pile of stickers off and there they go like Pixy Sticks.
gotta stop the mill and pick them up......I hate it!

Watch:


Falling Stickers While Sawing - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO_KhZdXtIA)


I saw the existing hole where the High Performance Blade guide goes and came up with an idea.
I took some bolts, nuts and washers and a piece of Cedar and did a little welding on the bolts and came up with this.

The bottom of the Cedar Fence is level with the blade.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24625/CEDAR_A.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1525480117)

Heres the back.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24625/CEDAR_B.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1525480117)


Heres how it attaches to the mill.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/24625/CEDAR_C.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1525480118)



Heres how it holds the stickers as I saw. I'm actually sawing way slower to get a good video.
Notice how the blade tries to sling the stickers to the left but the fence stops it.

Installs with 1 nut to tighten.

No More Falling Stickers - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEoDJTzMSHM)


Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:52:35 PM
Well 133 people have looked at this and not said a word so I'll comment.

Hey...thats a pretty good idea Goat. I may try that.

David
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:53:41 PM
Thanks David.
It sure beats picking up stickers off the ground.


Goat
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:54:52 PM
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:53:41 PM
Thanks David.
It sure beats picking up stickers off he ground.


Goat
Saves on your back too. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:55:26 PM
You're welcome David.

Goat.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:55:55 PM
This thread is now closed. 
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 04, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
I took a screen shot of this thread in case you ever need an insanity defense.  :D
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 10:44:36 PM
Quote from: Dave Shepard on May 04, 2018, 10:37:21 PM
I took a screen shot of this thread in case you ever need an insanity defense.  :D
smiley_whacko
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: rjwoelk on May 04, 2018, 10:56:25 PM
Sorry i was out looking at how to make the same thing. Every one else is doing so also. Thats why they an't gettin back to you.  :P
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Southside on May 04, 2018, 11:07:34 PM
Can you make a video of how you assembled it and then attach it to the mill?  Something decent with music and all to the welding, measuring, etc?   :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: PAmizerman on May 04, 2018, 11:18:53 PM
That's pretty dang slick Mr. Goat.
Now I've got another thing added to my to do list!!
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 05, 2018, 01:53:52 AM
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:52:35 PMWell 133 people have looked at this and not said a word so I'll comment.
Words fail me. 
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: fishpharmer on May 05, 2018, 05:01:50 AM
David that's genius!  I'm not just saying that because you said it was a good idea 3-4 times.   :)  

Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: PA_Walnut on May 05, 2018, 06:21:42 AM
Necessity is the mother of invention.
I'm continually amazed (and motivated) by the things the members here come up with!
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: schakey on May 05, 2018, 06:29:16 AM
 smiley_clapping dancing-jack smiley_old_guy
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Peter Drouin on May 05, 2018, 06:30:39 AM
I can make 4 or 6 passes and they don't move. Maybe your cutting too slow.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Chuck White on May 05, 2018, 06:38:21 AM
When I'm sawing stickers, I just put my hand on them to keep them from falling!

It really doesn't take much to hold them!

But, I'll give you credit though, putting the fence in there is a good idea, works well!
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 05, 2018, 06:44:24 AM
    I never tried pre-cutting my stickers to length before I sawed  them so never had that much problem with them although this looks faster. I hope you are going to post this over in the Useful Sawmill Mods thread.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Roxie on May 05, 2018, 06:54:28 AM
Quote from: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 04, 2018, 09:52:35 PM
Well 133 people have looked at this and not said a word so I'll comment.

Hey...thats a pretty good idea Goat. I may try that.

David
:D :D  Remember that for every member that can comment on a post, there are hundreds and hundreds of guests that cannot comment.  As we speak, there are 300 guests viewing. 
Now, seriously, you should patent that attachment.  8)
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Magicman on May 05, 2018, 08:05:24 AM
Actually all that he did was took the W out of his I D E.  ;D
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Sixacresand on May 05, 2018, 10:21:05 AM
Do you have a jig to clamp 3 stacks of planks?  Can you cut the stack down to the last 1 inch?  Do you cut each plank to sticker length with a circular saw?  
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: DR Buck on May 05, 2018, 08:11:18 PM
I do exactly what Chuck White said above...   I hold them with my hand.   If I don't, I'll usually only drop one off the stack.     I also saw them full length of the cant and cut to length afterward.      

Now, explain to all of us how you are clamping those three or four individual cants and stacks of boards so they stay put while you saw stickers precut to length.  ;D
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 05, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
Quote from: DR_Buck on May 05, 2018, 08:11:18 PM
I do exactly what Chuck White said above...   I hold them with my hand.   
If you are sawing a 10 foot length sticker, by all means, yes, hold them with your hand.....no problems.
However, when I have a stack of lumber on its edge and I precut the lengths to 32 inches,
Chuck Whites  my arms are not long enough to reach ahead and hold them from falling.
I suppose if you go slow enough you could reach, uncomfortably... and hold them but I make things for comfort.  ;D
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 05, 2018, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: Sixacresand on May 05, 2018, 10:21:05 AM
Do you have a jig to clamp 3 stacks of planks?  Can you cut the stack down to the last 1 inch?  Do you cut each plank to sticker length with a circular saw?  
I take 12 planks on there edge....saw down to about 5 inches from the bottom where I have my marks for my sticker length...then start sawing stickers.
There are several ways to saw stickers neatly.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Nomad on May 06, 2018, 04:49:34 AM
That piece of cedar was a good idea, Poston. 8)
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: PA_Walnut on May 06, 2018, 07:40:48 AM
Well, at any rate, this thread caused me to cut a big pile of stickers yesterday!  ;D
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: 123maxbars on May 06, 2018, 09:35:44 AM
nice video 123 Goat,

;D  more videos please
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: PAmizerman on May 06, 2018, 11:37:24 AM
It would take me one heck of a reach to hold stickers from falling :D

I have a remote mill
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Magicman on May 06, 2018, 02:11:41 PM
Not me, 'cause I'm just riding along beside them anyway.  More than likely I am feeling the top of the board anyway searching for any sign of a wave, etc.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 06, 2018, 04:00:26 PM
Quote from: Magicman on May 06, 2018, 02:11:41 PM
 More than likely I am feeling the top of the board anyway searching for any sign of a wave, etc.
surfer-smiley   Hang 10 Big Daddy. 
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: JustinW_NZ on May 07, 2018, 03:26:02 AM
Quote from: Chuck White on May 05, 2018, 06:38:21 AM
When I'm sawing stickers, I just put my hand on them to keep them from falling!

It really doesn't take much to hold them!

But, I'll give you credit though, putting the fence in there is a good idea, works well!
ditto...
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: scully on May 07, 2018, 08:17:22 AM
With a remote command ,not walking next  to the cut can be a disadvantage . I try and be calm when I cut stickers , I have had times..... Awesome idea !
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: YellowHammer on May 07, 2018, 09:59:23 AM
Good idea Poston
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Percy on May 09, 2018, 09:24:35 AM
Funny Goats Screaming like Humans - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYlNF30bVg)
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: Weekend_Sawyer on May 09, 2018, 10:42:44 AM
Wait! This guy is an imposter, there was no drone, no music and no guy looking like he just jumped off the mountain dew bottle (the original) narrating it.
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: POSTON WIDEHEAD on May 09, 2018, 03:34:09 PM
I have locked this thread. Ain't talking to y'all no more.  😡
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: pine on May 10, 2018, 03:08:53 AM
I have other uses for the same idea/design that you came up with besides just stickers as I have had some 1" boards move as well as stickers.
Thanks for the video. :)
Title: Re: Stopping Falling Stickers.......Video by 123 Goat
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on May 10, 2018, 07:16:09 AM
Nice mod Poston.
IMO the biggest pain is when the edgings, stickers, battens, etc fly off like that.
All of my stickers come from edgings that are suitable to the purpose.
I think my problem is clamping tooo tight causing the thinner pieces to fly off but i haven't schooled myself to correct this after only 18 yrs of sawing.