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Title: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 10, 2018, 03:07:36 PM
  I have a small stand of Slash Pine planted in South West Mississippi. I have a hard time with all the vines climbing up the trees. I have tried just cutting the vines at the base of the tree, but there is probably a better way that I am not aware of. I just tried spraying the foliage on the vines of several different trees for a test, but I was wondering what others do. I would like the ground underneath the trees to be very clean, so I could possibly in the future, make pine straw bales. Any tip/suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: Magicman on August 10, 2018, 03:27:13 PM
I am not a Forester but:

Remedy would kill the grasses and Escort would kill the other stuff such as woody vines and other trees.  You can use either/both without harming the Pine trees.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: Southside on August 10, 2018, 03:41:51 PM
How old is the stand? I take it a lot of light is still getting to the ground?
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 10, 2018, 08:25:10 PM
Thanks MM. The trees are 13 years old. They have been thinned once, 3 years ago. I have not measured DBH.Yep, that makes for a good point about the light. I did not think of that. That is why I love this site. Great knowledge. That being said, I am going to ask, when the trees get bigger and block more light, will it slow down the vine problem?
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: Mad Professor on August 10, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Cut the vines (large) and paint the stubs with full strength glyphosphate (41%).  Hit any re-sprouts with foliar spray of diluted glyphosphate.

If the vines are all small just cut/mow them, then treat resprouts with foliar spray.

Cutting the vines makes the roots invest energy in re-sprouting, so a follow up of the sprouts with spray is more effective.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: Southside on August 10, 2018, 10:52:11 PM
When the canopy closes the vines, grass, sweet gum will all die off due to the lack of light.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 10, 2018, 11:39:43 PM
   Thanks for info. gentlemen.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: Ianab on August 11, 2018, 12:36:07 AM
Quote from: Mad Professor on August 10, 2018, 09:18:43 PMCut the vines (large) and paint the stubs with full strength glyphosphate (41%).  Hit any re-sprouts with foliar spray of diluted glyphosphate.


^ This. 

You cut the main stem, and paint it. No risk to your trees as there is only a small dollop of glyphosate applied, and it doesn't remain active. If that doesn't get the vine, then the regrowth is going to be new tender growth, and right there at waist height, ready to hit with a little garden sprayer. Might take a few trips through to get them all, but keep knocking them back, and stop them getting up into the crown of the trees again, and you can win. 

As the trees get bigger they make more shade, and any undergrowth and new vines gets to be less of a problem
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: WDH on August 11, 2018, 07:27:00 AM
Prescribed fire.  Has to be done in the winter in the right conditions.  Very effective.  Really controls the trumpet creeper vine in my plantations. 
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 11, 2018, 11:23:33 AM
   Thanks a bunch. I have been wanting to burn it for a while now. My neighbor accidentally burned about 3 acres of them when she burned her trash years ago, but I would like it all to burn good. Even though they were small, I was surprised that it did not kill the ones that burned, and there is no noticeable difference in the ones she burned and the ones that were not burned. Thanks again for the replies.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: TKehl on August 12, 2018, 02:56:57 PM
Goats, machete, and a pole saw.   ;)  

Granted, mine is hardwood, not pine.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 12, 2018, 03:04:59 PM
Don't want no goats :D. I have a super bad back and tried some of the machete. Just too many for me to do. I try to get the big ones though (with a machete).
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 12, 2018, 03:07:42 PM
 Actually goats may be a great idea. Nope, just thought about the coyotes. I am sure the would get them. Good idea though, thanks.
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: Southside on August 12, 2018, 03:08:26 PM
I would be careful about how you speak of Sir Goat.... ;D
Title: Re: How do you control vines crawling up planted pine trees?
Post by: LaneC on August 12, 2018, 04:14:53 PM
 :D :D Understood.