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Title: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: Flyingpig on November 04, 2018, 08:17:17 AM
Hey guys. I bought a nice straight and clean 404 yesterday. It has a locked up engine (I'm thinking blower issues, he described it as black smoke and then locked up). I happen to have a blower ha ha. Anyway, does anyone know what to use for oil in the transmission? It's a powershift, I think they were an Allison? Also, what do they weigh roughly? Thanks.
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: Flyingpig on November 04, 2018, 07:29:33 PM
 
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Alright I guess I'll add a couple pics...

It's a really straight, tight machine. Looks like it has had a pretty easy life. We'll bring it home and see if our hunch on the engine is right and if it is it won't be long before it's back to work. It is complete too, all the guards and panels are there for it.
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: bushmechanic on November 05, 2018, 04:36:59 AM
Good score on the old girl, hope that engine doesn't run you into too much money. ;)
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: thecfarm on November 05, 2018, 05:40:50 AM
Hope all goes well. Thanks for the pictures.
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: Flyingpig on November 05, 2018, 07:51:56 AM
If it does we'll re power it. We've got a 6354 Perkins that purrs like a kitten...
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: larry12 on November 05, 2018, 08:58:51 AM
Good looking old TJ  --sorry can't help you with the weight or  trans. oil type . My engine is locked to, but from water damage --hope yours is just something minor. 
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: Flyingpig on November 25, 2018, 09:23:24 AM
 
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 The engine was a bit more serious but we are getting a handle on er. They had 'rebuilt' the front hole with a piston that looks to be out of a 53 series turbocharged engine. It is a way lower compression dome and it has a lot of cylinder wall clearance. Number 3 cylinder was seized and the liner stuck to the piston and broke at the ports. Also it's been packed full of seeds by mice over the two years it has sat. So we are pulling two piston/liner assemblies out of a 353 we have from a 230D and putting them in and going over the rest of the engine. It's a temporary patch fix, but once it makes us some money we will stop and do a full rebuild on it the next time it hints at trouble. 

Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: Flyingpig on December 16, 2018, 12:58:53 PM
Well, we spent our first day pulling wood in with the old girl yesterday. We spent a few days with the winch and other problems that showed up after we got the engine running. $2,000 all in for a running, functioning skidder. Runs really nice too, has a little blowby until it's warm and then it's good. Takes a small sniff of ether to wake it up at -10. About as good as I've ever had a Detroit run.

https://youtu.be/xOOwf1mYDCs (https://youtu.be/xOOwf1mYDCs)
Title: Re: Timberjack 404 questions
Post by: mike_belben on December 16, 2018, 01:24:07 PM
For that kinda money one can overlook a lot of flaws.  

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