Hi everyone,
I am in the gathering phase of my sawmill build and have just acquired a free worm gear 90 degree gearbox with a 30:1 ratio. I have a wheelchair motor that i am hoping to use to drive it. I have seen a lot of other DIY mills run wheelchair motors and am curious what everyone is using for a motor controller? Thanks for any and all info.
Look for this one on eBay:
http://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/39553/DC_10-50V_60A_Motor_Speed_Control_PWM_HHO_RC_Controller_12V_24V_48V_3000W~4.jpg
You probably won't need the gearbox. wheel chair/scooter motors have one built in. I recommend using the scooter motor, bigger, more power on 12 volts. Wheelchairs use a separate drive motor for each wheel, scooter use one motor driving a differential gearbox. If you have 24 volts available (2 12 volt batteries) the speed controller off a scooter works fine on sawmills.
Will that controller reverse the motor as well?
That's a good idea, I may use the wheelchair motor for auto feed and purchase a separate 12 volt motor for the head lift. Will that controller reverse the motor aswell as control speed?
Quote from: TreeStandHunter on January 31, 2019, 11:36:10 AM
Will that controller reverse the motor as well?
Yep, push the throttle stick go fwd with speed control, pull back to go reverse with speed control. Reverse speed may be limited on some. Just flip the lever 180 deg if that's a problem. I work on wheel chairs/scooters a lot, holler if I can help
If you're asking about the one I posted, no it won't. You would need to use heavy-duty relays or a drum switch to do that.
I just have a 12 volt wheelchair motor with the gearbox on it. Don't remember the ratio but I wired it through a 30 amp double pole double throw momentary switch. So when I press one way on the rocker it goes up the other way goes down. the polarity reversing is done in the switch. I do not have a speed controller. its perfect speed for raise and lower.
Thanks for the ideas everyone. I think I am going to purchase a desperate 12 volt motor for running the sawhead lift and use the scooter motor for power feed. I didn't think the scooter motor had a brake built in. I haven't seen the motor yet, my brother in law has been in a chair for the last 10 years and recently got a new one so I am going to salvage what I can from the old chair.
I use the wheel chair motors for both travel and to move the head up and down. They are slow at 12 volt so I ran 24volts works great. I use the PWM controller with drum switch for travel. I use the chair motor with an ATV winch relay with a monetary switch to move the head and use sprockets to change the ratio to the speed I want the head to travel.
take a look at this. if i ever have to be in 1, i would def want it something like this.
Invacare Storm Power Wheelchair Conversion | eBay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Invacare-Storm-Power-Wheelchair-Conversion/113498672135?_trkparms=aid%3D333200%26algo%3DCOMP.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20171012094517%26meid%3D3f9e5d51e9434dff9747be9b8c7db793%26pid%3D100008%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D223351608314%26itm%3D113498672135&_trksid=p2047675.c100008.m2219)
Quote from: bwstout on January 31, 2019, 04:05:28 PM
I use the wheel chair motors for both travel and to move the head up and down. They are slow at 12 volt so I ran 24volts works great. I use the PWM controller with drum switch for travel. I use the chair motor with an ATV winch relay with a monetary switch to move the head and use sprockets to change the ratio to the speed I want the head to travel.
did you install a 24v alternator, or use a step up converter?
24 v alternator
Some good ideas I appreciate everyone input. I am a huge cheapskate and may just end up mounting the worm gear box I have at a comfortable height and use a jack shaft to bring the gear ratio to a level where it will raise and lower a lot quicker. This isn't a wheelchair motor I worded it incorrectly, it is an electric scooter like a hover round type thing so it is connected to a differential type of setup, I am going to try and figure out how to make that my auto feed motor. Thanks for the ideas guys I will be looking into the controllers and switches you guys posted. And that is one badass looking power chair! A friend of his is a paraplegic and has a hunting rig with tracks, that thing is awesome.
Here is the gearbox, I got it out of the trash bin at work it was used to raise/lower the ceiling on commercial 100' greenhouses. The price was right so I'm gonna try and make it work.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/46874/3B9BF2AC-F56F-4EEC-94F3-63279BB6442F.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1548955306)
if the scooter has a differential that means both tires should spin the same. But if yo ulock one side the other will spin twice as fast. Thats the fun with spider and side gears.
The scooter diff would be great for raise and lower if you could figure out a way to engage and disengage a lock on the one side. Then you would have high and low lift and lower speed.
Unless it's been removed, either wheelchair or scooter motor will have built-in disc brake. A gotcha, the brake is spring loaded to full on, apply power to release. Safety feature so scooter won't roll if powered off.
I used a gear motor they work good and they can move a tank.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51812/IMG_0673~1.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1545536668)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51812/IMG_0673~1.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1545536668)
sprocket setup motor is 3/4hp Dayton with controller and reversing switch but I figured a better way to reverse head.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51812/IMG_0672.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1545536590)
Just simply catch a ride on the chain then disengage and pull head back by hand. lots faster!
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51812/IMG_0669.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1545536349)
Woodpecker that is a great looking setup!
Here is the scooter motor I have been talking about. Obviously it has been removed from the axle and the brake has also been removed. Does anyone have a wiring diagram for how to hook it to 12 volts with a double throw switch for forward and reverse aswell as a speed controller?
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/46874/image.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1549060821)
Quote from: TreeStandHunter on February 01, 2019, 05:42:39 PM
Here is the scooter motor I have been talking about. Obviously it has been removed from the axle and the brake has also been removed. Does anyone have a wiring diagram for how to hook it to 12 volts with a double throw switch for forward and reverse aswell as a speed controller?
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/46874/image.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1549060821)
im betting if you go to the manufacture's page for either the scooter or the motor, there will be a schematic for the motor. just google the manufacture and or part number, and something should pop up.
i was looking for a high idle solenoid, and after a day of searching through part numbers of the jumbled mess of scratches on mine, i was able to locate the actual ground power cart the engine needing the solenoid. downloaded the IPC and found the solenoid, then a amazon and ebay search pulled a bunch.
google or some other search engine is your friend. probably could find the wiring schematic fairly easy
just in case, as someone else might ask, what manufacture of scooter and or motor is it? ill see if i can find something to help you out
I am so excited I flat out forgot about google...I'm going to ask a lot of dumb questions throughout this build process I'm sure. It's been awhile since I used a forum regularly I forgot about the search button lol
Quote from: TreeStandHunter on February 01, 2019, 06:02:02 PM
I am so excited I flat out forgot about google...I'm going to ask a lot of dumb questions throughout this build process I'm sure. It's been awhile since I used a forum regularly I forgot about the search button lol
the only dumb question is the unasked 1. iv asked a bunch before starting my build, and still asking now that iv started the build.
While in the design phase consider the effect of too much power to the saw carriage drive. If something blocks the carriage advance you don't want to damage anything. My head advance is just 1/3 HP and stalls or blows a fuse if the carriage is blocked. My mill is probably smaller than yours so 1/3 HP is ideal for mine so choose accordingly. I have accidently left something on the tracks that stopped the carriage advance with no damage to anything.
Also consider possible effects of humidity on the speed controller if it is not hermetically sealed. Just my 0.02¢ worth.
Bob
I am still asking questions after building mine. its fun keep them coming.
as for wiring the switch that is easy. center poles should be power to the switch from battery. other 4 poles power the motor. You basically connect the 2 opposite corners together then to your motor.
That way depending on witch direction you push the switch depends on which polarity is sent to the motor.
edit: Search for wiring DPDT switch
Quote from: Crusarius on February 01, 2019, 06:11:38 PM
I am still asking questions after building mine. its fun keep them coming.
as for wiring the switch that is easy. center poles should be power to the switch from battery. other 4 poles power the motor. You basically connect the 2 opposite corners together then to your motor.
That way depending on witch direction you push the switch depends on which polarity is sent to the motor.
here is a link to an image
DPDT wiring 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wiring page didnt open on my end. give an error message. something about being to long. may just on my end. but fyi in case it isnt.
yea it was a very strange looking link. just search google for wiring DPDT switch.
That is a good point about carriage power being to much. I used kill switches on each end to cut power and have a switch at the handle and also have a handle to disengage the carriage ride sprocket. If the motor of mill starts to bog due to speed I just disengage and push blade then lower speed at the end of cut.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/51812/IMG_0685.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1545536738)
I also never sit back and send the head down by itself, then you are asking for trouble, I am always walking with the head monitoring the blade, motor speed, water lube, diesel lube, and blade guide and if the log is shifting in the cut etc.
Quote from: TreeStandHunter on February 01, 2019, 05:42:39 PM
Here is the scooter motor I have been talking about. Obviously it has been removed from the axle and the brake has also been removed. Does anyone have a wiring diagram for how to hook it to 12 volts with a double throw switch for forward and reverse aswell as a speed controller?
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/46874/image.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1549060821)
Could you get and use the controller from the scooter?
....@ Crusarius .. The DPDT is a good idea but in my case using 24volts and not sure if those switches can hold that current!!.. i've got plans to build my own joystick lever that when pushing forward activates a on/off micro switch and as you push the lever forward it turns the speed controller...and pulling backwards does the opposite with it's own on/off switch and speed controller...still haven't figured out the wiring yet with a stationary command post.. :-\ ..
I was not able to get the controller from the chair, they tossed the entire thing except this motor. I will be running it on 12 volts with a motor controller. Th joystick is a great idea ^^^ that would be very ergonomic
The switch I have is rated for 30 amps. I did not run a relay because of that. My motor only draws about 15.
Concerning speed controllers - I recommend a Pulse Width Modified controller because it maintains torque at low speeds. Maybe that's standard in the speed controllers mentioned in this thread but I just haven't read mention of torque. Just another 0.02¢
Bob