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Title: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 24, 2019, 03:24:50 PM
Well I have one. 50 gal each. Just a big squat tank with a divider. I was thinking gas in one side and diesel in the other. What if it leaked from one to the other? Will a filter of some kind protect my skidder from gas? Or just don't use it for both?
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: DDW_OR on March 24, 2019, 03:41:41 PM
to the best of my "knowledge" a filter cannot separate gas from Diesel.
use a Borescope camera to see if there is any rust in the tanks.
dual tanks have been used for a long time.
DEFINITELY use a Water Separator Fuel Filter on the output of each tank.
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: BargeMonkey on March 24, 2019, 05:09:28 PM
 You could pressure test it to make sure it doesnt leak from one side to the other, personally I wouldnt use a tank like that unless it has a segregated bulkhead, a couple gal of gas in 50gal of diesel would hurt something. Certain products you can "push" into the next, diesel into gas in limited quantity but not the other way. My fuel supplier is prohibited from loading kero on the same trailer as gas because of the horror show that can happen if a bulkhead failed. 
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 24, 2019, 05:13:13 PM
Barge that's my thoughts. I know diesel is heavier than gas but WHAT IF.  I'll just use for diesel. Not worth an engine.
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Ron Scott on March 24, 2019, 06:12:51 PM
Yes, definitely don't let them get mixed together.
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Corley5 on March 24, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
Not all fuel transfer tanks are DOT approved for gasoline.
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: OntarioAl on March 24, 2019, 08:32:18 PM
Firewoodjoe
Good call
Avoids the danger of someone pumping from the wrong tank
Cheers
Al
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: BargeMonkey on March 25, 2019, 12:59:41 AM
The biggest problem with gas, and even the newer ULSD is static accumulation, I'm not a fan of hauling 50+gal of gas just for that reason. The UEL/ LEL on gas is so broad it doesnt take much, people think it's a joke. The API on diesel of heavier, in a couple days it will settle out but it's not worth the risk unless it a newer tank and you trust it. I've never seen a truck tank that's DOT approved for gas, I'm sure they exist but big money. 
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 25, 2019, 05:17:03 AM
Ok so what could I do with it lol. Connect the two? Air compressor tank? Cut it off? Used oil?(although I don't have much)
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Skeans1 on March 25, 2019, 06:38:00 AM
What about hydraulic oil in side?
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: gspren on March 25, 2019, 07:56:13 AM
Diesel in both, connected or not depending on what's easier or more convenient for you.
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 25, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
 I thought about hydraulic oil but around here it's cheaper by the 5 gallon pail so that's not really convenient I'll probably just use diesel for both
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: DDW_OR on March 25, 2019, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: Firewoodjoe on March 25, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
I thought about hydraulic oil but around here it's cheaper by the 5 gallon pail so that's not really convenient I'll probably just use diesel for both
good.
off road and road diesel

Road Diesel on the side the truck fuel cap is on.
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: Firewoodjoe on March 25, 2019, 07:22:34 PM
I have a gas pickup lol
Title: Re: Gas and diesel fuel transfer tank
Post by: DDW_OR on March 25, 2019, 08:55:59 PM
maybe it is a sign to upgrade to a USED diesel truck.
2007 and older = no DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid)
that is why mine is an early 2007 Ram 3500 crewcab with the 5.9