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General Forestry => Alternative methods and solutions => Topic started by: Diesel 40 Don on April 02, 2019, 02:40:28 AM

Title: Introduction
Post by: Diesel 40 Don on April 02, 2019, 02:40:28 AM
Hello all, new member here.  I decided to make my first post here since I dabble in alternate energy and self-reliance.  I have built a version of the Riche design charcoal distiller and successfully make charcoal for smelting, forging, and grilling.  I also do aluminum casting and have built the Gingery mill.  So, as you can tell if it is off-the-wall impractical, I have either tried it or would like to! 

I have enjoyed reading of all your experiences in this area and look forward to being able to contribute some small amount to the knowledge base.

Regards, Don   
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: doc henderson on April 02, 2019, 03:11:12 AM
Welcome diesel, I am working nights.  I make lump charcoal as well just using a 30 gallon metal drum.  This forum goes around the world with mainstream stuff and plenty of fringe.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel 40 Don on April 03, 2019, 01:07:26 AM
Thanks for the welcome.  The drum system works well to make charcoal, I chose to go the route I did for several reasons, one being the ease of tapping off the wood gas for possible engine fuel and other uses.  It is very interesting to see how others do things and pick up new ideas.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: doc henderson on April 03, 2019, 02:26:19 AM
Working again.  There is a fair amount of solar and wood burning heat discussed here.  I do small amounts of charcoal at a time.  I just like to watch the volatile gasses burn off the top.  Cheers
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Don P on April 03, 2019, 07:04:06 AM
Hey Don, Welcome to the forum. Can you explain or show pics of the Riche charcoal distiller, that is a new one on me.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel 40 Don on April 04, 2019, 01:54:55 AM
 
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 Hi Don (is there an echo in here?(https://forestryforum.com/board/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif))  A Riche still is basically an ell shaped pipe surrounded by a firebox and chimney.  The upper and lower ends of the pipe have removable caps for filling and emptying.  A small vent pipe lets the producer gas out, usually it is returned to the fire box to burn but it can be tapped off for external use.  The wood chunks are held inside the pipe so they don't contact the fire and as a result can't burn accidentally.  If I can figure out how to get the picture out of my phone I will post one I took of the gas burning off outside the firebox.  When it gets cooking it roars pretty well and shoots an impressive flame! 

OK, there it is.  I hope it works.  As a bonus my namesake tractor is behind the retort as well. 
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: luap on April 06, 2019, 10:01:00 AM
welcome to the forum. I have looked through many of Dave Gingery designs and would have been motivated to build something had I not already had access to a fairly complete machine shop and have  a couple lathes, milling machine, etc. at home. My stuff is old, acquired over time from auctions. I have done some aluminum casting so I understand what it is about. So many projects, so little time. I had my shop off grid with some solar panels and four other power design wind mills. Only the panels are still in use as windmill blades only last six years and I got tired of replacing them. So long term grid is cheaper. Any way,welcome aboard. 
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: Diesel 40 Don on April 07, 2019, 06:44:22 PM
Thanks luap,  It sounds like we are much the same.  I have collected a bit of equipment over the years but had never had a mill.  I decided to give the Gingery one a try mostly for my own education.  I have to say I am reasonably impressed by it.  It is by no means a Bridgeport, or even a Jet, but within its limits a very capable machine.  When you consider what you learn  making it I don't feel my time was wasted.  I don't use it a lot but it has been very handy to have when the need arises.

As for the projects, I agree completely, I need a wealthy patron to finance me so I can spend full time on my experiments!  Your comment on grid power is spot on as well.  For what you get from the utility you can't compete as a small producer.  I like to dabble with it but have no illusions of saving money or getting rich selling power back to the grid.

Well, those comments should raise some hackles! Thanks for the welcome. I hope I haven't worn it out already.
Title: Re: Introduction
Post by: scsmith42 on April 07, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
Hi Don, welcome to the forum!  Sounds like you'll fit right in.

Scott