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Title: What size gauge?
Post by: brianJ on May 16, 2019, 04:18:58 PM
Looking at a remote sump pump.   At a half horsepower the specs list 7 amps @ 115 volts.    I need to use a hundred foot extension cord.      The label on a 16 gauge rates it as 10 amps.   Is that enough excess capacity?  
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: Magicman on May 16, 2019, 05:31:41 PM
I would not use less than a 12 gauge.
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: muggs on May 16, 2019, 05:47:25 PM
Quote from: Magicman on May 16, 2019, 05:31:41 PM
I would not use less than a 12 gauge.
As they said in the movie Jaws, your going to need a bigger cord. :D
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: doc henderson on May 16, 2019, 05:58:20 PM
there are charts that will tell at what length you need to jump up to a lager size wire.  if the pump is gong to pump for a minute at a time, might be ok.  If you are pumping out a collection of water, the cord may get hot, as well can be hard on the pump motor if you get a voltage drop, it will increase the amp pull.  If this is for longer term or long periods of operation, i agree will all.  Everyone should have a 100 foot 12 g cord anyway!!! at least that is what I would tell my wife... :D
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: Southside on May 16, 2019, 11:18:02 PM
There is also starting amp load to consider, being a pump it will be considered a hard or heavy start, so for a very   short time it will pull a lot more amps. 

A 12 is probably fine, personally I would go with a 10 to be sure. This way too should you need a heavy cord for a compressor or other device down the road you already own it. 
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: doc henderson on May 17, 2019, 12:03:33 AM
10 g should pull 30 amps, but at distance it will be less.  
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: Dave Shepard on May 17, 2019, 07:34:05 AM
Clearly, you couldn't go wrong with 4/0. Just to be safe.  :D
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: luap on May 17, 2019, 09:00:32 AM
When you consult a table that shows wire size and amperage capacity be careful to look at type of wire and insulation and if in conduit.
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: moodnacreek on May 17, 2019, 12:55:03 PM
What gauge? Are you shootin or sawin? , just kidding.
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: doc henderson on May 17, 2019, 04:40:46 PM
great discussion.  practically speaking, I would start with what you got, even the 16 until you find a good deal on a 12 g 100 foot cord.  If it runs for a while, feel the cord (not while standing in water) and if it is noticeably warm, get the 12 g sooner rather than later.  Is this a permanent solution or temp and or intermittent?
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: luap on May 20, 2019, 09:22:30 AM
If you have enough of the smaller gauge wire you can double up the number of wires for more capacity.
Title: Re: What size gauge?
Post by: brianJ on May 20, 2019, 01:02:30 PM
Thanks everyone.   Good advice for general scenarios.    I used a wire size calculator from paige wire.     Gives advice for both copper and aluminum