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Title: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on May 22, 2019, 05:28:02 PM
Sung to the tune involving flowers...

We have no chipmunks at all. Usually they start coming out when the snow is almost gone. There also aren't any red squirrels.

I think the long winter with thick ice under the snow has smothered the poor little things. I know some people don't like them but both are part of the food chain so what will foxes, owls, raptors and coyotes eat ???

Anyone else missing the little stripey guys ?
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: terrifictimbersllc on May 22, 2019, 07:09:57 PM
We saw red squirrels near Rockwood, ME this week. Ornery as ever. 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on May 22, 2019, 07:12:17 PM
Clearly they are all here again.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Chuck White on May 22, 2019, 08:48:24 PM
Here we have Chipmunks, Red Squirrels, Gray Squirrels and Black Squirrels!

And the Black cat is still coming around, hoping that the electric fence around the garden patch isn't hot anymore!  electricuted-smiley 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: thecfarm on May 22, 2019, 09:08:56 PM
They are showing up at the hardware store.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Southside on May 22, 2019, 09:54:52 PM
They are with the cowboys Paula Cole was singing about... 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: GAB on May 23, 2019, 08:37:01 AM
Sprucebunny:
Bring your traps and plenty of bait as there is an excess of them here.
The neighbor says many are failing there final exams in swimming as they are fishing many out of the pool.
Gerald
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on May 23, 2019, 10:04:55 AM
Southside- I was thinking of the Pete Seeger song recorded by Peter, Paul and Mary in 1962 on thier debut album. Are they the same tune ?

Where Have All the Flowers Gone? - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Have_All_the_Flowers_Gone%3F)

I'm not the only person in this area who has noticed they are missing. We had our first snow that stayed on Nov. 1. That usually doesn't happen until mid December. They probably hadn't stored enough seeds or smothered/drowned under the slush and ice.

Thanks for the replies, everyone  :)
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Woodpecker52 on May 23, 2019, 10:20:16 AM
I would think they burrow into the earth or fallen or hollow trees and do not lay around in the snow or ice.  I assume they also hibernate like bears etc.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Woodpecker52 on May 23, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
From the look of my tractor wiring I think they like farm equipment to over winter in also.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Old Greenhorn on May 23, 2019, 11:10:58 AM
They treat my woodpile like a condominium complex ;D. Once I got the woodpile re-stocked I saw a lot of activity, but then a new black cat showed up and started hanging around driving our house cats nuts. I saw that cat trot off with a little guy in his mouth one evening. That cat had an orange tabby buddy he bummed around with, I saw them both down in the woodlot and caught the black one on the game cam more than a few times. Haven't seen much of them in the last week or so though. Maybe they ran out of chipmunks. I kind of like the little guys, but the wife does not. The only 'harm' they seem to do is leave small nests in the woodpile here and there. The wife said something about her plants, but I dunno. I think the rabbits and the deer pretty much cover the plant issue.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Crusarius on May 23, 2019, 12:34:37 PM
I noticed the same thing with them disappearing. then I saw fisher tracks in the pond. I am pretty sure I figured out where they went.

Dinnertime!

The fishers seem to have moved on, because the population is coming back pretty strong.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Lko67 on May 23, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
Fishers,hawks,bobcat got all my small game about done turkeys also.  Had 3 or 4 drop off cats running around the bobcat got all them.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Chuck White on May 23, 2019, 04:39:23 PM
Chipmunks do hibernate and they come back out in early Spring!

I've noticed (in this area anyways) that domestic cats will kill chipmunks, but they won't eat them!

Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on May 23, 2019, 05:47:53 PM
Well, there are neighbor cats and the population has been dwindling but I'm amazed to have none and no red sq. . As I said, other people in this valley have noticed it so it's not just because the cats are extra good hunters right here !

Chipmunks around me have holes in the ground. They aren't very fond of heights or tree climbing like the squirrels.
Chipmunk - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipmunk)

I always figured they woke up a little in winter: otherwize, why would they store so many seeds ???

In summer they do spend lots of time in a firewood pile that's been there a couple years.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Chuck White on May 23, 2019, 07:45:30 PM
Oh, if we get a warm spell during the Winter, they will come out of hibernation!
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: bags on May 23, 2019, 08:39:17 PM
No chipmunks, ground squirrels or mice around here--- the barn cats (pic) eat just about everything that's a bit smaller than them--- got another herd of wild ones out by the sawmill.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/22142/kitty_herd_002.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1558658020)
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Logger RK on May 23, 2019, 09:34:30 PM
I must say I havnt seen any this spring yet either.But I have Oreilo's at my feeder. They skipped coming around last summer. 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sawguy21 on May 23, 2019, 10:03:44 PM
Come to think of it I haven't seen a chipmunk for a long time. Brown squirrels are plentiful though. We are seeing racoons which must be escaping high property prices around Vancouver. ;D They were virtually unknown in this area when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Chuck White on May 24, 2019, 06:43:24 AM
Wow, that's a lot of cats, I count 25 in that pic!

Overall, glad it's you and not me!  ;)

No doubt about it, you are a cat person! ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: LeeB on May 24, 2019, 07:23:54 AM
That is a lot of cats. Please tell me have had them fixed. 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: bags on May 24, 2019, 08:23:14 AM
The coyotes and lions clean out around half of them through each winter--- population control--- then they start all over again in the spring. 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: thecfarm on May 24, 2019, 08:27:29 AM
I had a cat that I would see have a chipmucks in his mouth weekly.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: WV Sawmiller on May 28, 2019, 04:50:50 PM
   There are swarms of chipmunks everywhere here right now. I walked out to my wood storage shed yesterday and one was sitting on top of a pile of basswood. He ducked down between the stacks when I got close.

   Today I went to put out some minnow traps in my creek so I can go crappie fishing in the morning. I leave my traps on the creek bank tied to limbs and trees and my bridge and such convenient to the pools I am going to put them in. When I picked up my first trap to bait it today this little guy was in there. He did not look like he had been in there long as he was still very active and healthy looking. He took a long leap off my front porch when I freed him.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/38064/chipmunk_in_minnow_trap.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1559076575)
 I guess the lesson learned is to be sure the traps are open so critters don't get trapped and die in them. I had a 2' water snake in one I had left in the creek. He seemed happy to leave too.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on May 28, 2019, 05:57:07 PM
They'r Heeeere buy the butt load
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Chuck White on May 28, 2019, 06:37:40 PM
No shortage here either! 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on May 28, 2019, 06:51:00 PM
I still haven't seen one or a red squirrell.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 02, 2019, 08:17:18 PM
Harley had one hung up for a bit today.

Chipmunk hide. - YouTube (https://youtu.be/MoSaqujlRPw)
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 02, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Chip and Dale are definitely here in the wood piles. :D

I fed them squirrels all winter, but the blue jays got all the peanuts I can assure you they was way quicker finding them. :D Just Youtube 'blue jays and peanuts'. Blue Jays are way above them squirrels in intelligence. :D

Just today I found a cluster of 6 sprouting acorns, some squirrel hid last fall, in the black berry bed and gave them to my brother to plant. :)
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: nativewolf on June 02, 2019, 09:12:26 PM
@wdh says they migrated to warmer climes, inside his new toy.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: WDH on June 03, 2019, 06:39:58 AM
Too hot for them here.  Surprising, you start encountering them about a 2 hour drive to the North.  There are other "Surprises" when one travels North from here, the more North, the more "Surprises" :D. 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on June 03, 2019, 04:29:15 PM
Jeff, are you sure there's a chipmunk in there ???

Still none here and had another report of them being Gone in another corner of our valley.

Guess I will need to import some from you folks who are so rich with them  :D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 03, 2019, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: sprucebunny on June 03, 2019, 04:29:15 PMJeff, are you sure there's a chipmunk in there ???


It went in, and right back out and up the tree. I saw it go up, Harley did not. Harley looks in that hole now every time he goes outside. :D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jim_Rogers on June 03, 2019, 05:05:14 PM
I have one running around my sawmill yard. That's about it.
I leave the shop door open most mild days and sometimes he runs in and takes a look around.
And when I tell him to go, he does.
Jim Rogers
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 03, 2019, 09:27:23 PM
I have a bunch, I feed them, they feed the rest up the food chain.  :D ;D
You would not believe the wildlife around here.
And no trouble at all in the last 35 years. Even the bears behave.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Old Greenhorn on June 03, 2019, 10:16:52 PM
I have been reading this thread since it started. I didn't comment but it did make me think about my little guys running around here. Usually when I restock the woodpile in the spring they move in and treat it like a Condo Complex, running in and out all summer long. They hurt nothing. This year one started setting up shop when I was only half done. However, two new strange cats showed up and started hunting my stack... with some success. Now I see none.
 I have never seen any of these little guys around the mill area, just rarely in the woods. But last weekend I was stripping a bunch of hemlock poles on the bench at the mill. I had a big pile of shavings (It's nice working in the woods, i can just leave the piles of chips.) Apparently my new little guy sees value in these shavings, so much so that he won't wait till I move away. He keeps running around my feet, totally ignoring me, getting what ever he is looking for.
 I couple of days ago I saw one of the cats on my game cam and he was hunting and caught something I could not see, but I saw him trot off with a mouth full of fur. I hope it wasn't my little buddy, but I have not seen him since then. These cats are beginning to pith me off. Tonight, one was outside the window checking out one of my house cats and it became 'noisy'. I may break my rule and start discouraging these cats. I see no collars and they seem to be out hunting at all hours based on my game cam photos. I really don't want a feral cat population around here, that would be a new problem and upset the balance.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 05, 2019, 05:17:45 PM
This is why you can't  let  the population get big, in fact why id eliminate them if I could.  Ive shot 6 in the head with a bb gun in the last 2 days, then did what i could to make sure they were all out. They chewed through my cedar log siding and into a wall cavity. 

Sure as can be that they were all out before  i did this. I filled it. You are seeing overflow ill trim when its dry.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20190605_153856.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1559769441)
 

Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on June 05, 2019, 05:36:31 PM
Chipmunks are about the only rodent that Hasn't invaded my house !! They seem happy to dig holes and have a happy home under the hemlock trees.

Maybe the ground is harder around your house ?
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 05, 2019, 05:43:59 PM
Well, in the case of this spot, its concrete.  
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 05, 2019, 06:06:32 PM
Our biggest pain in the behind over the years are cursed ground hogs. They won't get into these newer buildings though because they're all on footings and can't dig under. The squirrels make a mess in the barn, they cart insulation all over in there. :D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Chuck White on June 05, 2019, 09:08:22 PM
I've shot a quite a few after we put the swimming pool in, years back.

Those little buggers would tunnel under the pool, then with the weight of the water, their tunnel would collapse making a divet in the pool floor!

We don't have very many now, but there are some.

One side of my house has two rooms added over the years and is up on piers and is not skirted "yet", so this Spring I put 2 strands of electric fence the length of the opening, one about 1½ and the second about 3 inches above the ground.

One evening I had a skunk find the hot line, I didn't see it happen, but I know it did, then one day I was mowing on that side of the house and noticed a Chipmunk and watched him, eventually he wanted to go under the house, w e l l, he smelled/touched the bottom wire and was launched out into the yard about 3-4 feet.  Wish I could have had a video.

The fence charger is good for 2 miles of wire and I only have about 80 feet, so it's pretty hot!
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: WDH on June 06, 2019, 07:18:34 AM
All the chipmunks must have gone to Jeff's house.  Maybe they are having an Acorn Roast there  :D.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 07, 2019, 05:36:19 AM
We had a weasel here last winter, so I'm sure a few red squirrels fed him. We had a white tailed red squirrel last summer and have not seen him in months. Thinning out the crop. We also have lots of foxes around to, so them little guys have to be on alert. :D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 09, 2019, 02:31:12 PM
I set two bucket traps out a little over an hour ago. I just checked them. The one in the flower garden by the front had 4 in it. One hour.  The one behind my polebarn depicted here, 2 already. One hour. I didn't figure anyone needed to see 6 wet dead ground squirrels. I don't enjoy it.

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/20190609_141911.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1560105060)
 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Texas Ranger on June 09, 2019, 02:38:33 PM
Big enough to fry?  Texas, ya know.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: goose63 on June 09, 2019, 07:53:30 PM
Jeff don't have them all my wild cats are eating good :)
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 09, 2019, 08:15:00 PM
14 so far.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: btulloh on June 09, 2019, 08:17:59 PM
Cancel the pig.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: thecfarm on June 10, 2019, 04:57:59 AM
Quote from: btulloh on June 09, 2019, 08:17:59 PM
Cancel the pig.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2019, 11:30:41 AM
I think this qualifies as an infestation. Im at 22 already 


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Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 10, 2019, 02:06:58 PM
Didn't you have trouble last year too?
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2019, 02:31:26 PM
25 now.    Not last year. I'll have to look it up on here. seems like maybe 4 years ago?
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2019, 02:40:44 PM
Don't tell PETA in The Outdoor Board (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=84263.0)

October of 2015, so almost 4 years ago.  Looks like the total for that year was 118.1
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 10, 2019, 04:38:05 PM
Definitely an infestation. ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: btulloh on June 10, 2019, 05:17:38 PM
"Where have the chipmunks gone?"

They've gone to Jeff's house.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2019, 05:24:24 PM
28 :snowball:
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Woodpecker52 on June 10, 2019, 05:27:29 PM
need a few rattlesnakes to take care of them.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 10, 2019, 05:43:25 PM
um NO
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Peter Drouin on June 10, 2019, 08:53:20 PM
Something going on over there. maybe someone on your street feeding them and let them loose in your yard. Pith anyone off over there. :laugh: ;)
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: thecfarm on June 12, 2019, 05:36:21 AM
I have mentioned it before. I work in a hardware/grain store. We have chipmunks. The grain brings them in. BUT Jeff seems to have more than we do. We might catch 28,but that is all summer,not in 2 weeks. :o  I had a cat that would catch them things. Seem like once a week he would bring me one. That bucket does work well. That is the only trap that really works for the store. Them critters are smart.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: breederman on June 14, 2019, 09:19:06 PM
I cought one stealing bird food this morning,set a trap and got 6 in 10 hours.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 14, 2019, 09:46:29 PM
I was at 35 at noon today.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: WDH on June 15, 2019, 07:16:13 AM
What do you call a conglomeration of chipmunks?

A whack. 
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 17, 2019, 10:51:22 PM
Now at 48.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 21, 2019, 04:11:31 PM
Its a nice day, but not a good day to be a destructive chipmunk running around looking for something to get into at Forestry Forum central. I didn't check my traps yesterday. Today there was 9 in them. The count now stands at 60.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on June 21, 2019, 06:55:24 PM
They're back  :) Have seen a few of the cute stripey guys in the last week. I have to wonder if they scampered here from somewhere else or if this is a new generation from the few surviving the winter.

I think all the hawks, owls, coyotes, foxes and cats will keep my area from being as overrun as Jeff is.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on June 21, 2019, 07:34:10 PM
In my trapping im seeing 2 distinct generation sizes. Im catchong more little ones now than older ones
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 22, 2019, 03:37:31 AM
Every spring or June here there seems to be something after the young squirrels. I don't know if it is a male squirrel doing it or if they are succumbing to exposure when leaving the nest. I usually see a couple dead young ones out in the lawn, but found one that crawled into a corner in the barn and died, well I smell it. I know it is a squirrel because I seen it's tail in the corner of the barn door jam. It was there all the time I mowed the lawn, and that is an hour. Never moved. It wasn't there yesterday, so it crawled inside and died is my guess. I think long periods of cold rain takes a few.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on June 22, 2019, 07:28:51 AM
I still haven't seen one red squirrel ! No where in my travels. I thought I heard one chattering at my land further north. The red squirrels are pesky and sometimes try to get in my house but the chipmunks are no trouble here.

Maybe it's safe to fill the birdfeeder again even though the birds don't need much help this time of year. ( I stopped filling it a year and a half ago because of rodent problems. )
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on June 22, 2019, 07:45:51 AM
I only put out feed in the cold months with snow on the ground.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Texas Ranger on June 22, 2019, 01:07:54 PM
Jeff is creating his own dog food line.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: firefighter ontheside on July 07, 2019, 07:37:02 PM
Walking down my long driveway the other day my kid pointed out a chipmunk that had gotten hit by one of our cars.  That was a first.  Never seen roadkill like that on my driveway.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on July 15, 2019, 08:29:48 PM
I suspended my trapping the first of July at 78. Started seeing the little _ _ _ _ _ again so set my buckets up about 6pm tonight. I am at 81 now at 8:30
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: sprucebunny on July 15, 2019, 11:58:36 PM
I still haven't seen or heard a red squirrel but there's a couple of chipmunks around.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 16, 2019, 03:21:34 AM
There was a family of red squirrels this summer, but I think something as cleaned up on them. I smell a dead one in the barn. I have not heard a 'chatter box' in the yard in weeks. There are a couple chipmunks that stick mostly in the back yard under the yellow birch plantation. Or in the natural snow fence (brush) along the line. Oodles of ripe red berried elders now, so they are stuffing their cheeks. :D

What I have discovered recently is a brood of brown bats in behind the fascia overhang on the southern gable of the barn. Been seeing droppings below by the door and they are not squirrel or mouse. Noticed them the other day gathering in the barn just before sunrise. Good sign there are bats still around, but be nicer if they was up to the woodlot in the bat house by the beaver pond. :D The barn gets near 100 F in the attic/hip roof part of the barn and the heat holds there even on a cool day.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on July 16, 2019, 12:47:05 PM
5 more since last night. 

86.  Shame my dead chipmonk count is far exceeding the pigroast count this year.

Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Jeff on July 16, 2019, 12:50:40 PM
I guess everyone will get 2.  ;D
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Texas Ranger on July 16, 2019, 01:00:50 PM
Quote from: Jeff on July 16, 2019, 12:50:40 PM
I guess everyone will get 2.  ;D
I like bar b q on mine, if I were to be there, never tried chipmonk.
Title: Re: Where have all the chipmunks gone ?
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 17, 2019, 06:42:37 AM
86 that's crazy, Are you playing a flute to bring them in? :D :D ;D ;)