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Title: The $5000 log
Post by: Tam-i-am on July 03, 2019, 02:32:15 PM
When Kevin had the portable sawmill business customers would call and ask us if we wanted their valuable logs that were just recently cut and laying in their yard.  They knew it was valuable because it was "walnut".  So anytime someone tells me the value of their log I am skeptical!!!

Well yesterday, a man wanted to bring his $5000 log over to be milled.  To my surprise it was the real thing!  It was a 6 ft ebony log.  The gentleman didn't leave a scrap of it anywhere!  But I suppose at that price I would have picked up every piece too.


(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11461/IMG_4563.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1562177816)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11461/IMG_4564.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1562177786)
 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11461/IMG_4565.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1562177804)
 


The pics don't do it justice as the wood was black as black could be.  So rich and almost a satin look to it.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: barbender on July 03, 2019, 03:11:29 PM
That's cool, and definitely something you won't be milling every day!
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: sprucebunny on July 03, 2019, 03:38:19 PM
There must be more to the story !!! Was it super hard ? 
How does one get an ebony log ? Can't exactly put it in your suitcase to bring back from another continent  :D
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Tam-i-am on July 03, 2019, 04:01:47 PM
Sprucebunny you are correct he did not bring it back in his suitcase. :D  He actually bought it from a wood dealer in California.

Schuyler (I think he is member W) and Jane had no problems sawing it.  Wasn't hard.

Personally, I would make me nervous to cut something like that for a customer, but no one seemed to treat it differently.
I only got to see it because they milled it in the Logrite parking lot where they were milling wood for pallets just before the customer showed up.

All in a days work I guess.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: lxskllr on July 03, 2019, 04:36:35 PM
Wonder what he's gonna do with it? I wouldn't think boards would be the best shape, but I guess it depend on what he has in mind. You could do some interesting stuff turning it I bet.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Resonator on July 03, 2019, 05:55:18 PM
I'd saw that for shares! :D
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: doc henderson on July 03, 2019, 06:03:53 PM
the sawdust would make great filler. add it to resin ect.   :)
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Peter Drouin on July 03, 2019, 06:19:35 PM
Where does it grow?   South America?
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: sprucebunny on July 03, 2019, 06:31:13 PM
Ebony - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebony)

Africa and India. I wasn't sure, either.

It says 'dense' and I've seen it as wear surfaces on old planes which is why I thought it might be hard.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: lxskllr on July 03, 2019, 06:45:10 PM
Fretboards would be a good use for boards. Thought of that after seeing Resonator post.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: WV Sawmiller on July 03, 2019, 09:35:58 PM
   I have a number of ebony carvings I bought in Cameroon on the west coast of Africa. It is extremely dense and very beautiful wood. @WDH (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) Didn't I hear persimmon is an ebony wood.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: btulloh on July 03, 2019, 09:45:57 PM
I think redbud and ebony are closely related.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: WDH on July 03, 2019, 09:47:54 PM
Yes, persimmon is in the ebony family.  The instruments makers call it American ebony. 
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: btulloh on July 03, 2019, 10:35:22 PM
Quote from: btulloh on July 03, 2019, 09:45:57 PM
I think redbud and ebony are closely related.

Rosewood. Different exotic. Both ebony and rosewood are related to Les Paul.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Tam-i-am on July 03, 2019, 10:42:17 PM
Apparently, it was 1 of 3 ebony logs brought here in 1995.  Ebony does not grow very big so this was an exceptional log.  

yes it is dense.  2 guys could not lift it.  they ended up using the tractor (I just want to state for the record all the guys were kind of old ;D)

The man is commissioned to build a table.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Chuck White on July 04, 2019, 06:55:18 AM
The only thing I can think of where Ebony is commonly used is "forearm tips" on gun stocks!
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 04, 2019, 07:13:54 AM
Dense and heavy like iron. I've only seen a wood sample in person in the forest products lab at university.

Cool opportunity though. 8)
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: btulloh on July 04, 2019, 07:23:05 AM
Ebony used to be used for piano keys - the black ones of course.  Ivory veneer was used for the white keys.  Those days are long gone.

Tam-i-am, you witnessed a truly rare event.  Thanks for sharing it.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Magicman on July 04, 2019, 07:52:25 AM
Two exotic gavels.

 
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_6176.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1562240914)
 
One Rose Wood and the other Ebony.  These were turned in the early '60's.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: SwampDonkey on July 04, 2019, 09:37:05 AM
Years ago, I could imagine a high end Crokinole set with ebony and maple.
A quick google just shows ebony used on the board surface, but maple disks. $275 UK pounds. Odd, I would request ebony and hard maple disks. :D
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Resonator on July 04, 2019, 09:51:56 AM
QuoteEbony used to be used for piano keys - the black ones of course.  Ivory veneer was used for the white keys. 
Ebony and ivory, live together in perfect harmony,
Side by side on my piano keyboard, oh Lord, why don't we?

(Paul McCartney and Stevie Wonder 1982)
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: btulloh on July 04, 2019, 10:06:11 AM
Quote from: Resonator on July 04, 2019, 09:51:56 AMwhy don't we?


Around here we do.  Except on TV.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: barbender on July 04, 2019, 02:11:14 PM
Ebony is still the fretboard material of choice in high end guitars, especially classical guitars. I'm sure that holds true for stringed instruments like violins as well. As it gets rarer, ebony migrates toward the more expensive instruments. Some cheap guitars have the fretboard dyed to look like ebony. They go well with the jewelry that makes your skin turn green😊
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: curved-wood on July 04, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
Years ago I've read in Fine Woodworking magazine that a guy went to get a quilted mahogany in Africa saying that the log worth $25,000 !! . So big that even the bulldozer was not strong enough to pull it, they had to dynamite in half. Floated on a river to the mill, got it saw and send to US . Went all in slicing veneer. Quite an expedition
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: Tam-i-am on July 08, 2019, 09:31:56 AM
Wow, that's what I love about the forum - I post something and you all teach me something!

So I went digging around in the sawdust and found a small sliver of a piece.  I promise to bring it to the pig roast this year.  Then I have to figure out something to make out of it!

Doc  -   Jane, the sawyer's partner, did scoop up as much sawdust as she could to use it as fill in something.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: WDH on July 08, 2019, 08:24:18 PM
Good that you are bringing a piece to the Pig Roast.  We can fool Cedarman with it. 
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: mike_belben on July 10, 2019, 12:34:36 PM
They used to say a fool and his money are soon parted.  Havent heard it in a while but i see it every day.
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: GAB on July 10, 2019, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: Tam-i-am on July 08, 2019, 09:31:56 AMThen I have to figure out something to make out of it!
Ear rings.
GAB
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: barbender on July 10, 2019, 02:57:37 PM
Proverbs, Mike😉
Title: Re: The $5000 log
Post by: WDH on July 10, 2019, 08:44:54 PM
You are going to have a hard time parting any money from Cedarman.  He is tighter than Dick's Hat Band.