Just found this.
Stihl has finally made a .325 NK (narrow kerf) chain to compete with Oregon's 95VPX. The added bonus this new 23RS Pro chain is chisel . The 95VPX is semi chisel.
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Interesting. I wonder if the 40-50cc saws will be shipped with it unless otherwise specified.
Quote from: sawguy21 on July 26, 2019, 11:48:36 AM
Interesting. I wonder if the 40-50cc saws will be shipped with it unless otherwise specified.
Roy, hard to say.
It definitely will make a brand new MS261CM cut really good right out of the box.
From what I see from the side view pictures the cutter profile looks alot like the new chains Husqvarna is making now.
Depth gauges further ahead, bigger gullet and a long cutter side plate.
Around here I'll take the semi chisel, stay sharp a lot longer. I have a couple saws with 95vpx and yes they cut quite a bit faster. Steve
Will this not make it more difficult to sharpen? Now only that but if someone hits a nail or something of this nature a narrower cuter is more likely to break.Under ideal circumstances yes this would be the ticket, however, how many times have someone been cutting under ideal conditions?
Quote from: kenskip1 on July 26, 2019, 10:06:23 PM
Will this not make it more difficult to sharpen? Now only that but if someone hits a nail or something of this nature a narrower cuter is more likely to break.Under ideal circumstances yes this would be the ticket, however, how many times have someone been cutting under ideal conditions?
Well this narrow kerf 23RSS has a narrower cutter top plate so it will definitely take less effort to make a file stroke.
But the key here is we have a fast cutting chain with what is claimed to have a longer cutter to extend sharpening life versus a heavier 23RS .325 chain.
As in the past Stihl was limited to offer 3/8 Picco chain on saws from the 35cc MS201 rear handle saws, 40cc MS241 up to a 50cc MS261 .
Now we have a narrow kerf professional grade .325 chain that will get the best performance out of these smaller saws.
Sure I cut into a rock with a .404 chain on my 066 I have more damage to sharpen. Everything is relative.
And speaking of those little 3/8 Picco chains. When Stihl introduced it in 1979 it was not for the professional market. It was a cheap chain to manufacture due to having less pieces per foot over the 1/4" chain it replaced.
The Picco was built for the cheaper low powered consumer saws with the benefit of lower kick back energy versus the1/4".
The .325 RSS is a professional grade yellow chain.
I've always liked the way the 95vpx performed, but I tended to blow the tips out of the bars. Otherwise I really liked it. I just reallyprefer a semi-chisel chain.
couldn't have came at a better time...my 254xp is due for a bar and some new chains.
It should really kick butt and take names with that chain.
Ed
Stihl has made a version of their 3/8 picco chain for milling for quite some time.
It is labeled 63 PMX and quite hard to find in USA/Canada. Logosol had a monopoly on it for their chainsaw mills . It is excellent for milling and I've used it for > 20 years now. The chassis is same as PM chain but cutters are 5 degrees. It holds up to bigger saws well. I use it with a 066. The narrow kerf cuts faster and saves wood, and a very smooth finish on lumber.
This new 0.325 chain is interesting as possible milling chain if reground cutters to milling angle. How wide is kerf in comparison to 3/8 picco? Cost?
MP, this all new news to me. I was hoping by starting this thread on this site that has good Stihl support that we may get some information.
From looking at the above pictures it looks like the drive links may be uniform .050" thickness. Stihl has always had .063" stepping down to .058, .050" except their smallest Picco chains.
So a flat .050 driver on a .325 chain is definitely a NK chain with a narrower top plate to boot.
Of course this chain will need a thinner matching bar. And from Stihls good track record I have trust in them to make a quality product.
Just this month I bought a new bar and chain for a Stihl 026 -- Stihl Rollomatic E, 16", No. 3003 008 6813 VC .325 67 .063". Anyone know if this bar will work with the new chain?
Quote from: livemusic on July 27, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
Just this month I bought a new bar and chain for a Stihl 026 -- Stihl Rollomatic E, 16", No. 3003 008 6813 VC .325 67 .063". Anyone know if this bar will work with the new chain?
You need a .325 bar with a 0.050 groove width. That chains drivers will flop around in your bar.
So any .050 / 3003 mount bar would work or do you in fact need some type of 'newer' bar as Willard alluded to - or maybe he was just referring to a .050 gauge version verses a .063 or wider type? I'm assuming (you know how well that works often) that this chain will come in 20" bar lengths and if so I may give one a shot if and when they become available up here in the wilds of Canada and the price isn't too much more than the regular RS version I presently use..
A thinner bar is required. If you can have a look at a Husky with the narrow kerf and compare the bar to one running regular chain.
I always toyed with the idea of pricing out a newer lightweight Stihl bar - so maybe an opportunity to see how much both together might run when and if Stihl eventually would make such a bar in the future..
I know the bar itself wouldn't be cheap - but hopefully the chain will be the same or close to the cost of a regular RS type..
On a 261 it might be an interesting upgrade for my old achy back, hands, and arms and make the saw even more fun to use as well as bumping up the 'cut factor' overall without having to entertain a muffler mod etc..
Quote from: realzed on July 28, 2019, 12:53:35 AM
So any .050 / 3003 mount bar would work or do you in fact need some type of 'newer' bar as Willard alluded to - or maybe he was just referring to a .050 gauge version verses a .063 or wider type? I'm assuming (you know how well that works often) that this chain will come in 20" bar lengths and if so I may give one a shot if and when they become available up here in the wilds of Canada and the price isn't too much more than the regular RS version I presently use..
besides 0.050" groove, sprocket tip needs to be 0.325 pitch, unless it's a hard nose bar
Oregon and Husqvarna narrow kerf bars are .150" thick , standard bars are around .180".
Picco bars are averaging .160"
I have a 35 year old handmade 3/8" competition bar that is .140" thick.
How thick are the cheap rollomatic-E bars ?
This new chain has been in eastern Canada for about a month now.
Here's some pictures. From one picture I can see the drive links are even .050" thickness top to bottom making that narrow kerf capability.
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Is this square ground or round ground out of the box?
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 30, 2019, 09:10:18 AM
Is this square ground or round ground out of the box?
Regular round ground OG
Quote from: HolmenTree on July 30, 2019, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Old Greenhorn on July 30, 2019, 09:10:18 AM
Is this square ground or round ground out of the box?
Regular round ground OG
AH shoot, so I would still have to put in the time to square it off on the first sharpening. I wish someone would sell them square in .325 x .050. OTOH I am still on the fence between square and round. I ran Square for a year and liked it a lot, but then put on a round chisel and also like that. I sharpen the square freehand, it's easy for me, but for the round I use a husky roller guide, which is quick and does a great job, especially on the left hand side where I always have trouble being consistent. So I remain on the fence.
You should probably try it in a vise or a stump vise. A fence is not a very good place to sharpen. ::) :D
So, they introduced the chain but no bar? Is there any bar that will work with this new chain?
It's official, Stihl Canada 2019 Fall flyer came yesterday.
Pictured is new .325 RSP3 chisel chain.
Available in 4 configurations, semi chisel and chisel. With or without guard links.
For some reason the gallery photo rotation control is broken.
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This new chain should work well with the 50cc range saws. I was looking for a .325 NK for an 18" , 3003 mount bar for my old faithful 034 AV. It currently wears an Oregon versa cut bar with the EXL chain. No complaints at all with this combo, just at 54cc, anything greater than a bar length will push it a bit harder than I want to. I'll usually get out the big boy, 461R, and it's all but over at that point.
Willard, does Stihl make an ES bar for the .325 , 050 sprocket nose in a 3003 mount? I'd like to give it a try with a semi just to liven the old dog up after 30+ years of wearing a 3/8 yellow chain.
Quote from: Reddawg on September 26, 2019, 11:40:18 AMWillard, does Stihl make an ES bar for the .325 , 050 sprocket nose in a 3003 mount? I'd like to give it a try with a semi just to liven the old dog up after 30+ years of wearing a 3/8 yellow chain.
Unfortunately Stihl does not make a ES .325 sprocket nose, only laminated E bars which are .050 or .063" from tail to sprocket nose.
Oregon, Carlton and Windsor do make a .325 detachable sprocket nose for 3003 mount .050 or
063 bars. But the sprocket nose is always .063
For this new NK Stihl.325 RSP chain you would be better off running a laminated 3003 .325 .050 E bar for its thinner then ES profile, in order to file the chain all the way back to the witness marks and still not bind in the cut.
I see no new Stihl NK .325 bar available so the regular .050 E bar must work for this chain.
Thanks Willard, I appreciate the reply. I looked all over and couldn't find anything from Stihl. I'm not sure but was the Oregon Speed Cut bar with the 95TXL chain only for the Husky mount?
I've used the laminated bars for all my "dirt" saws but this saw is my go-to for a light quick saw. Perhaps someday I'll get the go for one of those 261cm with the b/c set up you have talked about a while back.
I'll keep y'all posted. Thanks
Quote from: Reddawg on September 26, 2019, 05:56:08 PM
Thanks Willard, I appreciate the reply. I looked all over and couldn't find anything from Stihl. I'm not sure but was the Oregon Speed Cut bar with the 95TXL chain only for the Husky mount?
I've used the laminated bars for all my "dirt" saws but this saw is my go-to for a light quick saw. Perhaps someday I'll get the go for one of those 261cm with the b/c set up you have talked about a while back.
I'll keep y'all posted. Thanks
Reddawg, yes there is a NK .050 .325 bar with a 3003 mount to fit a Stihl 024 and up. In 16" 18" and 20" , will take a 95VPX chain and the price is right too from $25 to $28 each.
Up until now I kept this a secret on this forum due to a ban of this bars supplier.
But here it is without mentioning names, if you do a quick Google you'll find this bar....
WoodlandPro Narrow Kerf Bars
#WPNK 16 SS50
#WPNK 18 SS50
#WPNK 20 SS50
Quote from: HolmenTree on September 27, 2019, 11:59:43 AMUp until now I kept this a secret on this forum due to a ban of this bars supplier.
Is that an actual "ban" or is it just a matter of "we don't like them very much anymore"? For the most part, I don't buy much from them anymore.
Thanks Willard, and I was trying to avoid them as well. No sense getting anyone, and me, in trouble for a review of it. I'll see if it's worth doing, perhaps there will be another brand from another place that I find .
Well maybe "ban" was too strong of a phrase for some. :)
But I'm sure my bit of information will help a few members on here...that's what I'm here for ;)
They were never banned, in fact iirc correctly Jeff encouraged members to not change how they did business with Bailey's over them not sponsoring the forum any longer. It was more individual members that were angry with them about it, coupled with some of Bailey's business practices as the next generation of management took over. It was during that time period that they had a data breach where customer's cc info etc was hacked. I personally had my info hacked, and Bailey's didn't notify me until a long period of time after it took place. I'd already been contacted by the cc company long before because there were fraudulent charges on my card. I kind of felt like the letter I got from Bailey's was along the lines of "unfortunately we were hacked, bummer for you. Sorry." I wasn't very impressed, that was the last business I did with them. Probably 5-6 years ago? I can't remember for sure.
Quote from: HolmenTree on September 26, 2019, 07:27:45 AM
It's official, Stihl Canada 2019 Fall flyer came yesterday.
Pictured is new .325 RSP3 chisel chain.
Available in 4 configurations, semi chisel and chisel. With or without guard links.
For some reason the gallery photo rotation control is broken.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21589/20190926_061705~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1569497205)
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Willard - of the .325 RSP or the .325 RMP - which of these two would be the same cutter face profile to the 23 RS I presently use and have files for?
I always thought the RS versions were square chisel type - but again I'm not that well versed in chains - and really only know it seems to work well for my purposes - but the appeal of a narrower cutter and one that speeds up cutting some does I admit, appeal to me if I can still use either my Stihl regular sharpener and files or newer 2 in 1 deal on it.
I have a 3003 E bar which I would like to change out for a lightweight version in the near future - is there a .50 or 3003 Stihl lightweight style of bar that would accommodate the new .325 23RSP chain - which is what I'm assuming would best match my present setup?
Thanks - Randy
Is this available through Stihl dealers in the US? Do you think an 18" NK on my 261 would cut similar to the standard kirf on my 16" bar?
Quote from: realzed on September 28, 2019, 08:52:28 AM
Quote from: HolmenTree on September 26, 2019, 07:27:45 AM
It's official, Stihl Canada 2019 Fall flyer came yesterday.
Pictured is new .325 RSP3 chisel chain.
Available in 4 configurations, semi chisel and chisel. With or without guard links.
For some reason the gallery photo rotation control is broken.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21589/20190926_061705~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1569497205)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/21589/20190925_155342~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1569497229)
Willard - of the .325 RSP or the .325 RMP - which of these two would be the same cutter face profile to the 23 RS I presently use and have files for?
I always thought the RS versions were square chisel type - but again I'm not that well versed in chains - and really only know it seems to work well for my purposes - but the appeal of a narrower cutter and one that speeds up cutting some does I admit, appeal to me if I can still use either my Stihl regular sharpener and files or newer 2 in 1 deal on it.
I have a 3003 E bar which I would like to change out for a lightweight version in the near future - is there a .50 or 3003 Stihl lightweight style of bar that would accommodate the new .325 23RSP chain - which is what I'm assuming would best match my present setup?
Thanks - Randy
Quote from: gspren on September 28, 2019, 09:00:05 AM
Is this available through Stihl dealers in the US? Do you think an 18" NK on my 261 would cut similar to the standard kirf on my 16" bar?
The .325 RSP is the same profile as the 23RSC only thinner kerf.
RSP3 has the extra guard link which is a kickback energy reduction feature but slightly reduces performance.
.325 RMP is semi chisel.
These chains will work fine on a Stihl E laminated. 325 bar already on your MS261.
There is no reports from Stihl that the 2 in 1 file holder won't work with the new .325.
Holmen,
Concerning bars for this chain, are the stihl E bars, 0.325 ,0.050 gauge narrow enough for these chains? Any chance they would bind if you had the cutters filed almost all the way back?
Or better to get one of the Woodland bars you mentioned?
I get max life from my chains and file them until I start loosing cutters.
Quote from: HolmenTree on July 27, 2019, 11:05:59 AMOf course this chain will need a thinner matching bar. And from Stihls good track record I have trust in them to make a quality product.
Willard - I stopped at one of the local dealership (Stihl) and asked about the .325 RSP chain and was told they wouldn't be getting any until they sold a lot of their present stock of RS versions.. which sounded like it certainly could be quite a while.
I also enquired about the cost of a lightweight laminated bar for my 261 - guess that would be a 3003 mount .50" ES Lightweight version and was told after the guy who usually is quite experienced and knowledgeable about most Stihl stuff stared into his computer screen for a few minutes "they don't come made for chains less than 3/8" size - and .325 wouldn't be available regardless of any length I would want..
Do you know if this is in fact true?
Typically Stihl parts being so hard to look up on-line or in fact impossible for an 'average non-dealership person' to find information on.. I figured you, who always seems to have an answer - might be best to run this by..
Is the guy EDITED BY ADMIN me or is he in fact correct and I'll never see a lightweight ES bar that will work for a 261 - at least in a .325/.050" configuration?
Thanks - Randy
Randy, your dealer is not b.s.ing you.
ES Light bars and E laminated bars are 2 different design applications.
A E bar can be lighter then a ES Light bar of equal length. The weight gain of the ES bar is in the heavy duty detachable .063 3/8" sprocket nose and the extra thickness of the bar overall.
ES bars are for heavy duty cutting with a higher powered powerhead used mostly for commercial grade cutting. Extra thickness and a strong sprocket nose is needed for durability.
E bars in .325 and 3/8 pitch are low priced consumer grade for occasional use. Yes E bars can be sold on a commercial grade saw by your dealer. But in Canada a bar and chain is included in the price of a new saw, 16" being the lowest price.
In the U.S. powerhead only is a popular way of sale.
Mad Professor, yes the Woodland Pro NK .325 bar is a good option but a Stihl E bar will also work well as they are approximately. 020" thinner then a ES bar.
I've used the 95VPX NK and Husqvarna equivalent on a Stihl E bar and I had no problems.
The trick is when the cutters are filed down small to the point when the cutter tops start breaking off ...you need to increase the top plate angle to 40° or more to prevent binding.
The extra angle will make the cutters pull out sideways more making a wider kerf.
I put a digital caliper on 3 bars.
Average thickness with paint, approximate:
.325 NK bar 0.150"
.325 E bar. 0.160"
3/8 ES Light bar 0.180"
Thanks for your insights Holmen.
Looks like the 0.325 NK bar would work best.
I was wondering about using this chain for milling using 5-10 degree cutters.
Any saw running .325 is going to be grossly underpowered for milling.
Quote from: sawguy21 on October 03, 2019, 11:10:00 PM
Any saw running .325 is going to be grossly underpowered for milling.
I was planning on trying it on my woods ported 066 with a DP muffler.
I'm using Stihl 3/8 picco 63PMX chain now. It gives a nice smooth cut with narrow kerf but is expensive.
I wish I took a picture, about 20 years ago I was running 25RM .325 on a 36" double ended bar milling with a 044 and 066 on each end.
Worked really good, only trouble I couldn't find a reliable helper who wanted to mill 8 hours a day. :D
Quote from: HolmenTree on October 04, 2019, 07:54:36 AM
I wish I took a picture, about 20 years ago I was running 25RM .325 on a 36" double ended bar milling with a 044 and 066 on each end.
Worked really good, only trouble I couldn't find a reliable helper who wanted to mill 8 hours a day. :D
I brought a logosol M5 mill >20 years ago. On sale package came with new 066 and 3/8 picco milling chain setup. It think it was $2300 USD with chainsaw and bars/chains.
The 63 PMX chain was reasonable back then, but prices went crazy. So was the special spur sprocket to run 3/8 picco on a 066 expensive. I had Danzco make up a bunch of picco rims to fit the 066.
Since then, GB has introduced a bunch of 3003 mount 3/8 picco soild sprocket tip bars for Stihls, they also have 3/8 picco rims.
I learned milling working at a commercial mill, getting $$$ for college years back. Hard work, started out as a stacker, 6 X 8" X 12' hemlock was no fun.....
At least my little mill I can work at my own, now slower, pace.
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MP, nice setup . I was always interested in those Logosols.
When the forestry company I worked for transformed to mechanical harvesting in the solid wood division (logging) I parked my chainsaw temporarily and took the transfer to the lumber division .
Big mill at 11 acres under one roof. Heated with steam from the pulp and paper mills. Steam also heated the kilns and produced electric power for the whole mill site.
Luckily when I was timber falling I missed the old green chain in the lumber mill where softwood lumber up to 2"×12"×16 ft was pulled and stacked by hand onto steel wheeled pallets for the forklifts to take to the kilns and then onto the planer.
The J hook drop bins and automatic stacker was a good addition.
But crews still had to pull lumber off the dry chain at the planer outfeed, I did that for the first year before I got my grading ticket.
Starting in 1997 a new company named Tolko from B.C. took over and spent about a $100 million on upgrades to the lumber division, including about that same amount again to the pulp and paper division .
We then had a fully computerized sawmill large and small log lines plus 2 new planers with automatic trim saws, stampers and sorter drop bins housed in another building 100 yards long.
I retired in 2004 and then went full time with my tree service . I only parked my saws for only a couple of weeks after logging and transition to the mill. Sitting in a grader chair left me with lots of energy to do residential tree work after hours, little tough in the first year pulling lumber on the dry chain.
Here's a few pics of a unique chainsaw mill a Australian firefighter found abandoned in the bush.
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I did a stint on the green chain, it was cold, dusty, mind numbing work but we were treated well. The mill went on strike over a stupid issue, I never went back.
We went on strike when the new company took over but only lasted a few weeks.
The pulp and paper division besides regular yearly maintenance shutdowns has been running steady since 1969 and still today is breaking new production records. They're not effected by the softwood dispute with our good neighbors to the south.
But the lumber division was effected and has been shut down for 11 years
Most of its equipment is milling in northern Alberta now.
When I retired in 2004 my light colored plastic lunch kit was sooty black from the diesel forklifts. Wasn't the best for your health working in a heated indoor environment.
I know Tolko and the Thorlakson family, they have a large sawmill/plywood plant not far from here that is not doing well at the moment. Back to the original topic, it will be interesting to see how well Stihl does with the new chain. Oregon 95VP is popular on the Husqvarna consumer saws but I didn't see it elsewhere..
My Husky 346xp (pro saw) was equipped with the 95vp bar and chain new (whatever it was relabeled as by Husky). I always liked the way the chain cut, but I had issues with those bars blowing nose sprockets. My 346 has been sitting on the bench for a couple of years, it has a carb issue and I haven't got around to fixing it. When I do, it needs a new bar and chain, and I'm not sure what I'll go with.
Just found the latest on the new .325 Pro series guide bar and chain from Finland.
Will be available on all new MS261 & MS271 at the start of 2020.
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Excellent news my friend, I'm glad I decided to hold off on the WP from that dealer we don't use.
So it looks like a 9 tooth sprocket nose, which would be nice on the plunge cuts. Just to refresh, the NK chain would be only is a full chisel and not in a semi chisel version?
Thanks for tracking this down, and looking forward to 2020 availability.
Reddawg, the chain is available in both semi chisel and chisel.
The 23Pro chain is already available in North America (Canada at the moment, the US very soon)
So we now have part #'s and information on the bar and will be along soon too.
use stump vise to sharpen the chain.
Seen lots of this chain in stock in Espanola, Ontario.
Thinking of trying some on a NE346XP with a new Husky NK 16"bar and maybe a 8 pin drive.
I use 63PS on a stihl 241 with a 16" bar with a 7 pin drive and it is great for my use, I am thinking this new chain will make the 346 run better than it is now with 325 LPX.
I cut mostly hardwood for firewood 14" or less.
I am new to this form- lots of great info. Thanks guys.
This chain is 0.150" across. With about 0.2" tie strap height. (measured some today)
It looks like a .325" version of the 3/8 63PS (Picco).
It should run great on a Oregon Narrow Kerf bar.
Can anyone help with sourcing some of this new chain and a bar to go with it? I want an MS261 CM, and would like to buy it with the saw if available or just buy the powerhead and get my own bar and chain loops. We are kind of short of knowledgeable pro saw shops (at least that I want to deal with) in this area of South Central Virginia. My current preferred Stihl dealer carries NO yellow label cutting products.
Maybe this narrow kerf chain has reached us yet...
TIA, Rick
ps. who is magicman?
Quote from: Old saw fixer on June 15, 2020, 12:58:47 PM
Can anyone help with sourcing some of this new chain and a bar to go with it? I want an MS261 CM, and would like to buy it with the saw if available or just buy the powerhead and get my own bar and chain loops. We are kind of short of knowledgeable pro saw shops (at least that I want to deal with) in this area of South Central Virginia. My current preferred Stihl dealer carries NO yellow label cutting products.
Maybe this narrow kerf chain has reached us yet...
TIA, Rick
ps. who is magicman?
I might try this new chain/bar in 18" on my 261
@Magicman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=10011) is a good guy that performs magic with his saw and wit. Maybe he will respond to you.
What did I do?? ::)
You are just a good guy that happens to have one of those different kinds of names!
But I ain't a magician nor do I perform miracles?? I also know nuttin about "New" Stihl .325 NK chisel chain. :-\
Magic, I have no idea why you were brought into this🤷♂️🤷♂️
He just has that magic personality.
Old saw fixer asked who was magicman so I rang your doorbell, it doesn't look like he has been back.
I'm here.... sorry magicman, I must have been in a daze that day.
Oh no Sir no apology please. I was having fun and all of my comments were made in jest.
I am normally found on the Sawmilling, General, and Food boards. I am only a "user" when it comes to chainsaws, even though I do own 4 Stihls.