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Title: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: dirtymartini on August 25, 2019, 12:11:00 PM
Is this too damaged by whatever bug got in there before I could saw it? I was going to use it for an 8x8 beam.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/40430/15667494518574936391853410894770.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1566749378)
 
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: Mike W on August 25, 2019, 05:37:40 PM
if that's pretty much the bulk of the damage in your photo, i wouldn't worry about it personally.  albeit not knowing what your intention is for use beyond being a beam hard to make that call unequivocally.  suppose if you were really concerned, one could always epoxy the damage with a slow cure 2 part epoxy :-\ 
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: Don P on August 25, 2019, 07:19:06 PM
That drops it below any structural grade.

We've been talking about them in another thread;
http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=107384.msg1674896#msg1674896 (http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=107384.msg1674896#msg1674896)
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: SawyerTed on August 25, 2019, 07:57:39 PM
For decorative purposes it might be ok.  Looks like some other deterioration/softness in the upper right area of your photo?  Usually insect damage like that goes along with other issues.

I'd be concerned about a heavy load or long span.
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: Southside on August 25, 2019, 08:30:02 PM
The other concern is what else is growing up in the wood?  Maybe it would eat more, or maybe it would decide to come out and have a family reunion / feast on the rest of your new building.  Kinda look like they may be bee holes.  
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: thecfarm on August 25, 2019, 09:42:00 PM
I doubt bee holes. The link that Don P posted is my bet.
Now if I needed a 2x6 and that was a 2X10 I might use it. But I would not use it for a 2x6. Eastern white pine is not strong too begin with. But I plan on using some for building. Most of my hemlock is gone. It will be thick stuff.
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: dirtymartini on August 31, 2019, 05:52:49 PM
Thanks for all the replies, I wasn't getting notifications.  I meant to take a pic of the worm today...fat white and about 1"long. Looks like some kind of larvae.
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: 69bronco on September 01, 2019, 01:05:19 PM
Pine borer, once you remove the bark and saw they're done for. I wouldn't use the one pictured for anything structural.
Title: Re: Bug damage in EWP
Post by: moodnacreek on September 01, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
Fresh cut logs normally will not have these worm holes. When the pine lay around in spring or summer this [and blue stain] is what happens.