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Title: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: JRWoodchuck on November 14, 2019, 06:08:17 PM
Looking at a 100 ish year old Cresent 26" planer that was line driven. Needs some love but the price seems alright. Anything I should be concerned about or what should I be looking for?
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: muggs on November 14, 2019, 09:02:06 PM
Is it babbit bearing? Is it square head or round head?  
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: Southside on November 14, 2019, 10:30:49 PM
Have you paid your health insurance deductible in full for the year yet?
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: JRWoodchuck on November 14, 2019, 10:32:01 PM
I would guess Babbitt and square. But not 100%. 
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: JRWoodchuck on November 14, 2019, 10:33:14 PM
Does a planer of that type come with a health risk?
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: Southside on November 14, 2019, 10:49:12 PM
Well, aside from all of the entanglement potential due to all of those un-guarded gears and the belt, square head planers were notorious for throwing material both back at the operator and forward to the outfeed, more than a few 2x4's went through walls from them. Yes one can guard them, but you don't want to be around a square head machine when it's running.  It's just old technology, at the time it was amazing, today there are better options IMHO.  
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: Dan_Shade on November 15, 2019, 04:49:04 AM
It may not have anti-kickback safety features.

Newer planers have safer in feed rollers (segmented), which makes running more than one board at a time safer. 


I'm not sure how dangerous the old planers are, but a few searches on square cutter heads will highlight some of the risks. 

Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: muggs on November 15, 2019, 05:09:35 PM
I received a badly broken arm from a planer like that.(kick-back) I would not want to be in the same room with it.  :'(
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: petefrom bearswamp on November 15, 2019, 05:25:15 PM
Sounds like BEWARE
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: Ljohnsaw on November 16, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
OK, so stay away from square heads.  With such a machine, is it worthwhile to convert to a spiral head?  Is it doable?
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: low_48 on November 17, 2019, 10:52:08 PM
Possible, yes, practical no. Problems with bearings and motor mount engineering, and impossible to get a replacement gear if one should happen to be cracked.
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: TW on November 18, 2019, 06:48:16 AM
The good thing with hose old planers is that they are comparably easy to repair. Pretty much any part can be repaired or remade using a metal lathe and a metal shaper. Parts that fit together are often designed in such a way that once worn out they can be scraped to fit like new.
Pouring new babbitt bearings and scraping them to fit isn't very difficult. I have done it successfully on my rip saw using scrapers I had forged myself.

However there is one mayor downside and that is SAFETY.
Personally I refuse to have anything to do with square heads. I think this is a reasonable precaution just because i like to live. A new cutterhead is unfortunately a bit costly and making a new set of anti-kickback pawls to retrofit an old machine is rather laborious........ so..... if you wand a safe machine be prepared to spend some significant time and money on modernizing it.
Title: Re: Old Cresent 26” planer?
Post by: Quebecnewf on December 20, 2019, 09:55:22 PM
Get it . Rebuild it . Get help from Owwm site . I rebuilt an old square head planer . Designed a anti kickback system for it . These old planers are great for trueing up rough green lumber .

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