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General Forestry => Tree, Plant and Wood I.D. => Topic started by: KODAK on May 14, 2020, 08:52:17 PM

Title: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: KODAK on May 14, 2020, 08:52:17 PM
I don't know my coniferous trees very well I admit.  So I have to two trees two images each. Would like to learn more about them. So what are they?
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Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: Wattwood on May 15, 2020, 07:21:54 AM
I'll go out on a limb a bit and suggest that from the form the first one looks like Norway spruce, picea abies, and the second is mostly a guess- scotch pine, pines sylvestris. Close ups of the needles would help. Both could have been typical yard trees for that vintage of house. Rob
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: GAB on May 15, 2020, 08:30:16 AM
I hope Danny @WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370) comes along with a much more educated guess than mine.
The first photos I think are some variety of spruce.
The last photos I think are of a red pine.
Personally I have never seen a scotch pine that straight.
GAB
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: WDH on May 15, 2020, 08:19:06 PM
Not sure about the first one.  Not enough detail to determine the options.

The second one, the pine, looks like red pine to me too. 
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: KODAK on May 15, 2020, 09:52:56 PM
Thanks! I'll get better up close photos.
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: firefighter ontheside on May 15, 2020, 09:57:33 PM
The first one seems too sparsely leafed to be spruce.  Seems more like tamarack or such.
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: barbender on May 16, 2020, 01:17:47 AM
I've seen some scotch pine that has nice form. In fact, you have to look up to the tops of the trees in mature ones because they look like a red pine down low. But up high, they have that peeling, scaly orange bark. As far as the OP, I have no idea what he has there, not enough to go by in the pictures.
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: moodnacreek on May 16, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
I have scotch here. They are straight [also dying]. Red pine does better up north. The 'spruce' tree will have potato chip bark if it is norway spruce.
Title: Re: Conifers ID Northern Indiana
Post by: GAB on May 16, 2020, 01:20:50 PM
Quote from: firefighter ontheside on May 15, 2020, 09:57:33 PM
The first one seems too sparsely leafed to be spruce.  Seems more like tamarack or such.
I thought that tamarack lost its needles in the late fall or early winter.
Would the needles be back by 5/14 in Northern IN?
Maybe KODAK could tell us if it sheds its needles part of the year.
Gerald