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Title: "Board" of Education
Post by: Magicman on July 31, 2020, 10:06:50 PM
I have a friend that is making these.  No they are not turkey calls. 

(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/20011/IMG_8082.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1596247514)
 
Boards of "education" but I doubt that teachers are allowed to use them like they did on me.  ::)
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Post by: Downstream on August 01, 2020, 12:36:30 AM
You just made my day!  Those are great.  The time out generation won't even get it.  
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 01, 2020, 09:37:23 AM
Lynn,

  I have trouble sitting here reading this thread and looking at those pictures. smiley_devil smiley_crying
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Post by: doc henderson on August 01, 2020, 10:20:51 AM
those are probably 92% effective just hanging on the wall.  the other 8% are all prob. members on this forum.   :D :D :D :o :o :o 8)
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Post by: sawguy21 on August 01, 2020, 10:53:42 AM
 :D Just knowing it was there was usually enough.
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Post by: Jeff on August 01, 2020, 11:00:21 AM
Love em!

I was able to sign a couple paddles when I was in middle school. There was a price... :D
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Post by: LeeB on August 01, 2020, 11:23:57 AM
'licks" where meted out 3 at a time when I was in 6th grade, usually by the teacher, and for more serious infractions it was a trip to the principal's off. I can recall one one getting 36 licks from the teacher and 3 trip to the principle. Other than being a hellion in her class, I got along pretty well with my teacher and even worked for her after class and weekends. The 'board was a little bit different story by the time I got to junior high. The principle was a meek fellow and his licks didn't phase me. The coaches on the other hand were a completely different story. One of them was actually pretty abusive and used a shaved off baseball bat that would lift you off the ground.
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Post by: Jeff on August 01, 2020, 12:33:25 PM
My English teacher Mr. Tensor's paddle had holes drilled in it to increase speed and accuracy. :D I went home a couple times with my butt looking like a golf ball.
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Post by: sawguy21 on August 01, 2020, 01:00:08 PM
 :D
:D
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Post by: Don P on August 01, 2020, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: Jeff on August 01, 2020, 12:33:25 PM
My English teacher Mr. Tensor's paddle had holes drilled in it to increase speed and accuracy. :D I went home a couple times with my butt looking like a golf ball.
That's what I was thinking when I saw it, "he needs to drill out those stars" Not that I ever had any personal experience. Mr Mac could swing for the fences  :D 
Title: Re: "Board" of Education
Post by: Old Greenhorn on August 01, 2020, 01:22:08 PM
Quote from: Jeff on August 01, 2020, 12:33:25 PM
My English teacher Mr. Tensor's paddle had holes drilled in it to increase speed and accuracy. :D I went home a couple times with my butt looking like a golf ball.
Why does this not surprise me? ;D
 When I was in junior high, I had a drafting teacher that would just throw things. First couple of offences he would throw black board erasers, then he would graduate to T-squares, and if you really got his goat he would throw a stool. I was a good student. ;D
 That same year, I had a female history teacher who would walk up and down the aisles and whack kids in the back of the head with here knuckles, not for any offence, just to 'keep them awake'. First time she did it to me I told her if she did it again I would swing back. She laughed. A few days later she did it again and I got up out of my seat and cocked my arm back. She says "You're going to the principals office!" I said "Good because that's where I was going right after this class anyway to talk to him about your behavior'. That really set her off and we went down together. The principal heard my side, then hers and sent me off to my next class. never heard another word about it. Apparently there had been a LOT of complaints and she had been warned several times. The next year she was gone after opening up a kids scalp with the rings she wore on her hands. I never objected to a deserved whooping, it was my fault after all, but a sucker punch out of the blue was a whole different thing.
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Post by: Bruno of NH on August 01, 2020, 03:06:56 PM
My mom was a ninja with a wooden spoon. 
There was no waiting to your Dad gets home.
She took care of it.
My Dad worked out of town alot. :D
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Post by: samandothers on August 02, 2020, 12:03:36 AM
Not sure how many Board visits I had.  The one I remember was when I was observing a fight.  I was not involved but too close to the action and got caught up in the sweep of offenders and punished as if I was involved.  
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Post by: Ed_K on August 04, 2020, 10:16:50 AM
 Sounds like catholic school to me :( :o >:(.
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Post by: sawguy21 on August 04, 2020, 11:01:53 AM
I had to behave myself, my 6'3 280 lb dad was the high school shop teacher and vice principal. He was fair, nobody got it unless they had it coming including me but if the kid was dumb enough to get caught he was gonna get it. :D
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Post by: Nebraska on August 04, 2020, 11:52:08 AM
Mom had one of those rubbermaid spatulas..... Never got it at school, threat was good enough.  Math teacher was really good at pitching erasers though.
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Post by: BradMarks on August 04, 2020, 12:24:39 PM
I went to the principal once in grade school.  When my Dad got wind, he promised it would be more than twice as bad at home (with a belt). That cured me.
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Post by: samandothers on August 04, 2020, 12:26:25 PM
I received in public school, but it was back in the 60's.
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Post by: doc henderson on August 04, 2020, 12:55:38 PM
I got caught up in a deal in HS.  A girl I was friends with had spent the summer in Spain and was giving a program to the whole school.  I ran cross country with her brother  as well.  Their dad had died suddenly of a heart attack a few years before and we all supported them.  someone in the crowd of 750 students tossed a penny on the gym floor.  then another, then another.  I did not but was accused along with 13 other boys.  nothing corporal, but I was afraid she would find out and think the worst.  In college, I had the opportunity to give her a ride home.  we were able to talk and I made sure she knew I did not do it.  Had to stay some nights after school.  I also was not happy that the administrators thought I might have done that.  everyone denied involvement.  when we signed our kids up at central Christian school for the daycare, the contract made us give permission for corporal punishment, and I balked at that.  my kids were 1 and 3.
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Post by: curved-wood on August 04, 2020, 01:23:29 PM
It reminds me when the teacher had tried to hit me with a stick but I was faster then him and he miss me and hit the other student beside me that had nothing to do with the problem. Oh boy, did I got he second hit hard  ;D  Nothing to consult a psy when I became adult...just part of the game.
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 04, 2020, 01:46:20 PM
   I really don't think anyone but parents or whomever is filling that roll should spank children. I'm not opposed to spanking under certain circumstances but I see it as parental responsibility. It is not the job of the educators and others to spank kids - they have enough to do just trying to teach but they do not need interference from misbehaving kids. They should call the kids down then if more is required report them to the school admin who should take appropriate corrective actions so the other kids can learn. Unfortunately too many parents do not live up to their responsibility when they are notified and, at least in our small community, the school admin are reluctant to create waives or contact some parents due to petty local politics and such. I used to tell my brother who was reluctant to discipline his kids "They are going to get some discipline somewhere, sometime and it is better to be from someone who loves and cares for them than some judge or irate by-stander who is just tired of and not going to put up with their crap".
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Post by: Don P on August 04, 2020, 02:13:46 PM
I pretty much agree with that. I grew up with "if you get it at school there's more to come when you get home" which just made me hide it whenever possible. When busing to solve a problem happened it also mixed the teachers, it was the right thing but kind of a mess for a long time after. We had one teacher that I've come in later years to realize carried some scars. A group of us boys got it every day. I sort of looked at it at the time as, well I am guilty of something every day so probably not undeserved. He did bust some blood vessels on occasion. He was an outlier and I doubt there is much of that in the schools nowadays but we did have several teachers who probably should have been in other institutions. I can only think of a time or 2 when Dad spanked me, the talk and shame did far more to correct the problem than any impact on my hind end could do.
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Post by: doc henderson on August 04, 2020, 02:31:24 PM
most kids that get an appropriate upbringing at home, do not need that at school.  i think discipline is great and needed.  spanking can be a form of discipline.  the problem is parents are not consistent, and only finally spank the kid when they themselves get good and mad, ..  not the time to spank the kid.  some kids are constantly tortured with little slaps and hits, and that makes no sense either.  
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Post by: davch00 on August 06, 2020, 11:42:55 PM
I received a couple while in school and found out the dad wasn't joking when he said "if you get it there you are gonna get it here". That cured me from doing a lot of things my friends would do in school. 
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Post by: caveman on August 07, 2020, 05:51:53 AM
I could probably hang with most of you reminiscing about the corporal punishment that I usually deserved and received as an adolescent but let's think for a minute what today's youth will talk about in 30-40 years when discussing the disciplinary measures taken to correct or punish their aberrant behavior.

Man, I sure do remember the time I had to wait a week to get sent home for two days, following the disciplinary hearing and interview with at least five school officials and my attorney, for vaping.

The day I had to stay after school and pick up trash for 30 minutes was the worst.

I had to go to the choice room (in school suspension for on class) for disrupting the class.  Wow, that really got my attention.

One time my teacher gave me an assigned seat that was not to my liking because he was so mean.  My conversations with my friend were important.

I did not get to go to the ice cream party at the end of the semester because I was sent to the dean's office for ...

Me:  I dreaded the paddle, the shaming and really dreaded my parents getting the call (usually I could convince the administrator to swing extra hard and forego the usual obligatory phone call home).  A call home from the school to my parents would result in "slow traffic and sad music" for me.  The punishment was swift, effective for a while, and over.  Today, the students who constantly misbehave usually have several offenses in the pipeline before they are assigned punishment and probably do not associate the punishment with the offense.

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Post by: Skip on August 07, 2020, 08:06:19 AM
" Spare the rod spoil the child ."  :(
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Post by: gspren on August 07, 2020, 08:38:55 AM
Like others I had a few deserved swats but when I was a substitute teacher in the early 80s I used a much crueler, in my eyes, punishment, essay writing.  
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Post by: WV Sawmiller on August 07, 2020, 08:56:35 AM
   I like @gspren (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17800) idea best. It re-enforces learning and does not put the teacher in a legal position or such. I had a young, first ever class, teacher I smarted off to and he made me write and essay on why I should respect my teacher. I thought I'd be cute and wrote it in 5 different colors of ink and in the margins and upside down and such which was ultimately a lot more work. I turned it in and saw him show it to the principal whose office was across the hall and he asked him "What would you think if you got something like this?" The old principal was real savvy and said "I like it. In fact I'd want 5 more just like it."

   That got my attention and I toed the line after that!

    I still maintain nobody but parents have the right to administer physical discipline like spanking. Unfortunately there are people out there who like to abuse others and they should never have the chance.
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Post by: doc henderson on August 07, 2020, 09:04:56 AM
I agree.  the key to getting results with discipline is consistency.  knowing what will happen works on most.  We all like to gamble and if there is only a 5% chance something will happen as a result, some will go for it.  The trouble with spanking is it tends to be sporadic and when the parent is angry.  The talk about why you are getting the "discipline" prob. adds to its effectiveness.  and to know to expect the same if a similar offence happens in the future.
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Post by: GAB on August 07, 2020, 09:17:10 AM
Once upon a time in an issue of the MAD magazine there was a section titled:
"You know you're right when ..."
Mom gets home and the little one says the sitter spanked me.
Mom sits down and asks little one - what did you do?
Little one says - I'm not going to tell you cause you will spank me too.
Gerald