Is the stihl 440 Magnum better than the Husky 372XP? Because I have the 440 and it is very powerful, but I just wanted to ask because some people tell me that the 372 is better. 8)
That question arises alot of Debate, the most general respose woul probably be the 372, but I would prefer the stihl.
I thought the stihl was better because they have 2 rings on their pistons instead of 1 ring on the piston like husky uses.
Husqvarna is phasing out the 372 and replacing it with a boat anchor called the 575.
IMHO, the 372 was one of the best saws ever to come off of the Husqvarna production line.
I have never owned a 440 Magnum, so I couldn't make a fair comparison between the Stihl & the Husky.
I've owned other Stihl models and see the chainsaws as not much different than the Ford versus Chevy sort of thing. If you have a good dealer close by, then thats the brand you should go with.
The 372 uses two rings just like the 440. The single ring myth is just more single line Stihl dealer ignorance. BTW, there have been single ring Stihls in the past.
It`s my experience that the 440,460, and 372 are all so close that it could easily come down to picking your favorite colors.
Russ
My dealer says the newer huskys have two rings to meet epa!
Quote from: minesmoria on March 23, 2005, 04:10:55 PM
My dealer says the newer huskys have two rings to meet epa!
Huh? LOL!
Russ
Sorry, I didn't know that husky started running 2 rings on their saws, Ithought they just ran 1 ring. I have neaver owned a husky saw. I Like my stihl MS440. ;D 8) My dealer sells stihls and huskys, and johndeere.
Quite debating already!
You should all pick your saw like I picked out my wife. Put one of each in a room, turn off the light, grope around in the dark untill you find something that feels the best and use it for life. Trust me, you will not be disappointed.
P.S. Never look back or you may end up getting slapped silly by your first choice.
I own both a 440 Magnum and a 460 Magnum. There is a major difference in torque and power between the two saws. The 440 is a high revving fast saw and the 460 is a saw with the grunt to handle large bars.
In one of the cutter training courses I took I had the only stihl saw, my 440. Everyone else had husky 372s. The instructor wanted to cut with each saw so he could tell the owner what the saw needed to perform at its max. He used my saw last. When he handed it back to me he said "Nice saw. You don't need to do anything to it." I could tell he was impressed but Husky sponsors the training so he was not going to say much more :D
OWW- You keep talking like that, and you'll talk me into getting the 440 I want. I've got the 460, love it, but dang, that 440 is a nice saw too. It fits nicely between the 361 and 460. We'll see, I might be putting a ring on a finger before too long, so it may have to wait for a while...or maybe that's a reason to buy it now!
Take care all,
Jeff
I love my MS440 magnum! It is light and has lots of power and will not bog down in a cut! I've had it for 4 months, and I love it! I would reccomend it to anyone.
You are forgetting about the Jonsered 2171 sister saw to the husky 372 xp, but a whole bunch prettier in red & black.
Quote from: OneWithWood on March 24, 2005, 10:02:17 AM
In one of the cutter training courses I took I had the only stihl saw, my 440. Everyone else had husky 372s. The instructor wanted to cut with each saw so he could tell the owner what the saw needed to perform at its max. He used my saw last. When he handed it back to me he said "Nice saw. You don't need to do anything to it." I could tell he was impressed but Husky sponsors the training so he was not going to say much more :D
OWW,
As much as I agree that the 440 is a great saw, I suspect that the instructor was more than likely complimenting you on having your saw set up properly. There is no dust gathering on any properly setup 372 and I`d run one against a 440 any day of the week, in fact I`ll run against a 460 too. Before anyone gets all blustery and tells me I don`t know what I`m talking about, I`ve had 044s, currently own two 372s and two 460s. These 460 were modified by EHP and are quite extraordinary, otherwise I wouldn`t bother with them. I like the 440 and 372 better and they cut almost as fast, when stock or modified.
Russ
Only thing with a husky is that they run the best they do when they come out of the box, and a stihl just keeps running better and better. I know this from other loggers and me and the dealers, tell me this. :) ;) I'm sticking to stihl anyway, for the quality! ;) ;D
Quote from: logger on March 24, 2005, 11:08:29 PM
Only thing with a husky is that they run the best they do when they come out of the box, and a stihl just keeps running better and better. I know this from other loggers and me and the dealers, tell me this. :) ;) I'm sticking to stihl anyway, for the quality! ;) ;D
Yeah, sure, whatever you say.
I would stick with the stihl ms 440 I loved the one I had but I wanted more power so I sold it and got a stihl 066 I wish I still had it. THat was a great saw.
Quote from: fishhuntcutwood on March 24, 2005, 01:18:08 PM
OWW- You keep talking like that, and you'll talk me into getting the 440 I want. I've got the 460, love it, but dang, that 440 is a nice saw too. It fits nicely between the 361 and 460. We'll see, I might be putting a ring on a finger before too long, so it may have to wait for a while...or maybe that's a reason to buy it now!
Take care all,
Jeff
Buy it now! Everything changes once the ring goes on! :D
Quote from: OneWithWood on March 25, 2005, 10:01:09 AM
Buy it now! Everything changes once the ring goes on! :D
Thanks OWW! :D Fortunately, she's a very "chainsaw friendly" gal. I'll see what I can scrape together!
Jeff
nice to have a gal like that, mine is pushing me to buy the 372 I been kicking around.
Shes always saying "buy it now or regret it later when they are all gone"
Trust me! Buy a 440, you will not be dissappointed! Super nice saws! Excellent power for the weight!
Jokers,
All depends on the operator and the chain you have on the saw! ;D
Quote from: logger on March 25, 2005, 10:11:30 PM
Jokers,
All depends on the operator and the chain you have on the saw! ;D
Well I can unequivocally say that I can`t build a race chain because I have never tried, but I`ll run my round filed work chain against yours. 8)
Russ
Logger,
I think we can all appreciate your happiness with your saw and Stihl, they are great saws....
But I stick to my guns as well and they are painted Husqvarna Orange!
Like Jokers I have owned and run the Stihl 044 and a Husky 372. I would take the Husky for one reason..........ANTIVIBE!!! The Husky has it all over Stihl in this dept.!!!
Jokers,
I was just saying that if you have a square cornered tooth chain on your saw it will perform better , I don't know if you had a husky that had a square cornered tooth on and a round cornered tooth on the stihl. I just don't know. My stihl will run right with a husky. And I didn't say that I have a race chain on my saw. We all have our differences! ;) ;D 8)
Gotcha Logger.
I like the 44 but prefer the 372 because of slightly better antivibe, in fact you won`t believe it unless you try it, and the Air Injection keeps the filter clean longer. Either saw is a great saw.
Russ
Jokers,
You are correct about the anti vibe and air injection. They are nice features. I would not compare the 044 to the 440. They are different saws and perform differently. I see the 372 is being discontinued.
I may be wrong about this, but I always have the feeling you see many more old Stihl's around than Husky and that a used Stihl seems to fetch more money than any other brand of saw equally used, from any dealer of any brand.
But that may just be in my old brain.
Hi OWW,
How is the 440 different from the 044 other than the decomp? I run so many different saws that I lose track but I don`t think I`ve run a 440.
Lobo,
I think that the primary reason that you see so many old Stihls around is because Stihl has sold so many saws. It`s the same as the number of old Chevys you may see vs the number of old Hondas. Not to say that the good Stihls are anything less than excellent products, but Stihl does a superb job of marketing. Stihl is nearly synonymous with chainsaw in most North American homes and therefore brand recognition bolsters their resale value.
Russ
Hi Russ,
I need to correct you here.
Nowadays there quite possibly are more old Honda's than Chevy's, the big 3 have taken one heck of a stomping for many years now in the passenger vehicle lines, except of course in the pick-up & SUV end of it. smile_belly_laugh smile_belly_laugh
Lobo, thats a DanG sad ( but probably true) comment.....
My stepson is 15, looking for a car now, i told him, "pick any car you want, so long as it's an American named car, preferably GM"
We have used both 372 and 044. The 044 blew up, but all the 372's are running. Since I have the hired help at the mill using my older saws, I never know what catastrophic things they try to do with my saws, so the 044 failure may have nothing to do with anything.
Quote from: jokers on March 28, 2005, 08:16:16 PM
Hi OWW,
How is the 440 different from the 044 other than the decomp?
I was wondering the same thing. Are you referring to the uprating of the hp in 2000 with the widened ports?
Jeff
My understanding, which is subject to disclaimers, is that both horsepower and revs were increased. My 440, without a decomp valve, is supposed to rev at 13,500 full open. I had some difficulty getting it down to that. I thought the 044 high end was 12,500.
My 044 service manual states that 14000 rpm is the max speed with a Rollomatic bar installled. There was indeed an uppage in hp, which happened in 2000 as they where still the 044 and 046. They're serial number determined. After said S/N, those saws will have the uprated hp. All 440's and 460's have the higher hp and better efficiency, and the "MS" change came along when, 2001? So the 044/440 name change would be a good line to determine those saws with higher hp at a glance, and not having to cross referrence serial numbers. I've got the 044/046 S/N's should anyone be interested in knowing what you've got.
Take care all,
Jeff
Quote from: fishhuntcutwood on March 29, 2005, 01:39:22 PM
My 044 service manual states that 14000 rpm is the max speed with a Rollomatic bar installled.
Could be why I was having difficulty slowing mine down. Learn something new every day :P
OWW- You want a copy of that manual? I can set you up with the IPL for the 440 if you like as well. Us Hoosiers gotta take care of each other!!
Jeff
My dealer says that is just a refrence in the book. It says 13,500 rpm, but as jeff said they will run 14,000 rpm easy! My Stihl MS440 Magnum is running 13,800rpm right now. My dealer said he didn't want to open it up all the way because it is still a little tight yet. I've run 4 gal of gas through it. He said to run about 2 more gal of gas through it. And he will turn it to 14,000 rpm.