I guess I can talk about these things now. 8)
592XP product codes showed up this week and went "live" in the system. Nothing is available to ship until July 26, so they are months away at this point. If they are on time, and hardly anything is these days. Between the XP and XPG models there are an awful lot of SKU's for the different B&C combos. Price increase over like equiped 395's is a pretty reasonable $60. Not bad at all, and less than I expected. :)
There is also a companion "5" model coming, a 585 priced $100 less than the 592. Figure the same concept as the 365/372, 565/572, 555/562. Not sure how well that will do. I sell a fair amount of 565's because they slot in between the 562 and 572. And most 565 buyers are stepping up from the 562, not down from the 572. But a $100 swing when you're up past the $1000 mark isn't a big deal.
I've had a couple of pre-production 592G's for a while now, for logger testing. Need to get a green light from Sweden, but maybe Walt and I can do a video with one of them.
Are you able to share any info in regards to weight and power rating?
That's going to be a very good seller!
Finally there will be something to keep up with a Stihl MS661CM.
We shall see how it goes!
Quote from: dnash on January 09, 2021, 07:50:21 AM
Are you able to share any info in regards to weight and power rating?
I honestly don't know the stats. Mine are G models and they feel about the same weight as the 395. Power is supposed to exceed the 395. :)
I've been wondering when they were going to update the 395 class saw. It's basically the only saw I run these days.
I'm very anxious to hear and see this pro saw perform. I'm hearing bad things about quality control and present Swedish saws. If Husky can't make a blow-out saw for a little over a grand, then they're going to give it all away to Stihl. That would be a tragedy.
Kevin
Looking forward to spending time with one of those. Always find it interesting how the spec sheet defines the discussion vs. the performance and life with a saw over time. But I understand how that a spec sheet is the first point of contact and folks love to compare numbers. It's simple. I'll get one regardless. Might go for the lower number to be contrarian :)
I was hoping the power of the 395 in the weight of a 346 in stock form
Now wouldn't that be nice. :D
All that for the price of the 346 too.
Well, I guess that if we're going to ask for the world that we're going to have to ask for the moon as well 😁
well Spike said this new saw is real good so I'm sure it is and to have the heated model already out thats good news , I'm sure he will have them a long time before we see anything on this side of the border but as soon as they are hear we will be playing with the 592
I'll start pinching my pennies lol
Real happy with my 572xpg. Sold my 395 for my mill, have a 394 to build but I really like these new auto tune saws.
here a 572 is quite abit cheaper than a stihl 462 , lots can be bought for a grand our money where a 462 is 1200 plus tax so hope the 592 is not that much more
Chris, ya don't know how nice it is to hear someome say they like the auto-tune saws. So many guys who have no clue what it is, blame everything that happens to the saw on the AT. That includes half of the dealers out there, both Husky and Stihl, who are either intimidated or ignorant of all this new technology. Had a guy in the other day with a 2012 562 that lost the PTO bearing. "I'm not buying anymore of these auto-tune saws." Perception is reality to some guys; nothing I can do about it. :)
When given the choice, I'm going with the auto tune saws. Every new technology has some hiccups. I'm sure glad I'm not out turning screws on a a carburetor on my wife's rig because it's not running quite right in the cold🤷🏽♂️
As a friend pointed out, software upgrades and resets should remain reasonable for the life of the saw. Prices for that now are all over the place as dealers explore this newer technology.
Kevin
Unfortunately Kevin, even lots of seasoned dealers don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm just now getting my favorite local Husqvarna dealer to at least hear my FF learned opinions about quite a few things! I never knew what a difficult time my teachers, when I was growing up, had doing they're job.
I FEEL FOR THE GOOD ONES !!!!
Their not many (if any) left at all!
Teachers OR Dealers!
I've got two 2260's (favorite saw ever) a 550, and the 572. They've always been flawless.
Yeah a crank bearing is entirely auto tune's fault 🙄
I bet you see a lot less saws that have had the carbs messed with and burned up and not running right. Someone with no clue and a screwdriver can make a mess quick.
I've also not had hot start issues. Follow the procedure and it's fine.
I run the crap out of those 2260's. Wish husky made the 560 available in the states.
I still have a bunch of old 372 and 2171 stuff I'll hang onto forever.
Quote from: celliott on January 10, 2021, 11:31:51 AM
I’ve got two 2260’s (favorite saw ever) a 550, and the 572. They’ve always been flawless.
Yeah a crank bearing is entirely auto tune’s fault
I bet you see a lot less saws that have had the carbs messed with and burned up and not running right. Someone with no clue and a screwdriver can make a mess quick.
I’ve also not had hot start issues. Follow the procedure and it’s fine.
I run the crap out of those 2260’s. Wish husky made the 560 available in the states.
I still have a bunch of old 372 and 2171 stuff I’ll hang onto forever.
Very valid point. Been piles of saws ruined by owners with air leaks or tuning too lean. If anything, auto-tune will aid to the elimination of that scenario. And logically, if the system is bullet-proof and has longevity, it will make saws last longer. Maybe even affect resale value in positive ways.....we'll see.
I'm an old guy and run 'antique' saws and yet I'm fascinated with the concept of auto-tune. If I was looking for a new, large cc powerful saw, I'd be looking at that feature.
Kevin
I have not seen any problems with the autotune , the 572 is every bit as good as the stihl 462 and some will not agree with me but the 2 of the 572's I had I honestly felt made a bit more torque than the 462
I just saw the official release video from Husqvarna for the 592 and 585. I would post it here, but it seems like that is a big no go here. Just go to the Husky youtube channel.
The 585 seems to be non autotune and fully adjustable carb. The 592 is gen III autotune, I don't know much about the gen III, hope it better than the prior versions.
I think the forrest service is not buying any type of auto tune or mtronic saws. They have had too many hot start problems, and fires lines are hot. That is why Stihl had to make a 661 in non mtronic and the 585 seems to be the main competitor for that saw.
I'm not a husky guy, but they look to be solid saws.
Squeal had the well known issue with the gas gap release spraying fuel onto forest fire fighters. For yrs the fire fighters would not buy Stihl saws.
I don't know how you recover from over-engineered stupidly like that, but apparently they have if forest fire fighters are buying Stihl again.
Kevin
Also, some of these saws go to markets where they may not even have electricity, let alone computers to plug them into. Despite the "green" images that both companies like to project to the EU and North American markets, they both still build older saws where the regulations allow them to still be sold. Husky is still building original 372's, 272's and 288's in Brazil and Stihl also builds some old models somewhere.
Yes, I'd love to be able to order from the Brazil warehouse. :)
Quote from: snobdds on June 23, 2021, 01:41:38 PM
I just saw the official release video from Husqvarna for the 592 and 585. I would post it here, but it seems like that is a big no go here. Just go to the Husky youtube channel.
The 585 seems to be non autotune and fully adjustable carb. The 592 is gen III autotune, I don't know much about the gen III, hope it better than the prior versions.
I think the forrest service is not buying any type of auto tune or mtronic saws. They have had too many hot start problems, and fires lines are hot. That is why Stihl had to make a 661 in non mtronic and the 585 seems to be the main competitor for that saw.
I'm not a husky guy, but they look to be solid saws.
Regarding the 585, wouldn't it be a 385 as opposed to the a 585? I thought that all 5 series were autotune.
Quote from: Tacotodd on June 24, 2021, 02:51:22 PM
Quote from: snobdds on June 23, 2021, 01:41:38 PM
I just saw the official release video from Husqvarna for the 592 and 585. I would post it here, but it seems like that is a big no go here. Just go to the Husky youtube channel.
The 585 seems to be non autotune and fully adjustable carb. The 592 is gen III autotune, I don't know much about the gen III, hope it better than the prior versions.
I think the forrest service is not buying any type of auto tune or mtronic saws. They have had too many hot start problems, and fires lines are hot. That is why Stihl had to make a 661 in non mtronic and the 585 seems to be the main competitor for that saw.
I'm not a husky guy, but they look to be solid saws.
Regarding the 585, wouldn't it be a 385 as opposed to the a 585? I thought that all 5 series were autotune.
It's 585. You can read about it here.
Best Pro Chainsaws, Legendary Gas & Battery Powered Saws | Husqvarna US (https://www.husqvarna.com/us/chainsaws/?take=48)
Notice the 592 specifically lists autotune as a feature, and the 585 does not. In one of the pictures, you can see the carb adjusters on the flywheel side of the saw.
Spike sense you are a person that has seen and I believe ran the 592 . How does it compare to the 395 . Weight and power . I got guys here looking at waiting for the 592 and I have never even seen one . How soon are you to guy them . Husky up here is having something on about the 592 and 585 tomorrow.
I had a couple test units and they do run strong. Has a nasty snarl to it also. Pretty impressive saw; and it does out cut the 395. Mine were both G models, so there was that additional weight, but either way the weight is on par with the 395. She's not a lightweight. :)
There's a webinar on them tomorrow, but I'm going to miss it. I dug into them a little when I had them. At first glance it looks like a big 572, but a closer look shows that they did a lot of stuff differently. The no-baffle stainless steel muffler is why it has the bark it does. The mounts are interesting. Try to see what they did with the rear mount over the gas cap. It's vertical as on the 395 and there's a thin steel cable for a movement limiter. No harder to work on than the rest of the line. I did carb swaps on them because they switched to that "run on choke" start feature during the test.
When? Just throw a dart at the calendar. :) March would be a guess for us in the US, but it's been a long time since any forecast date has been anywhere close to accurate. They shipped me three 395's today that have been on backorder since January 21. 395's were supposed to go away, but will be hanging around for another year just as an extra model in the line up to help meet demand.
Thanks Spike . We will have to see when they release them and try a couple of them . I know the 1 guy wants to put it on a mill
Good stuff from the webinar. Even the 89cc 585 has more rated power than the 395. :)
Weight is supposed to be a pound lighter than the 395, so my feeling on the 592XPG being a little heavy makes sense.
Price spread between the 585 and 592 is $100. 592-24" comes in at $1369 MSRP; $90 more than the 395.
Numbers are live and I put an order in the system. Forecast ship date is 2 weeks from today, but I'm sure that's BS. :D
Thing to keep in mind is that different bar length SKU's all have different ship dates. They intend to ship these saws with the new Swedish made X-tough bars, and they do have the 24's, so ya never know what the FedEx truck might show up with. :)
Cool. Might have to be my next toy tool to with my 390xp that I haven't started since last fall😁
Quote from: Spike60 on August 26, 2021, 02:48:53 PM
Good stuff from the webinar. Even the 89cc 585 has more rated power than the 395. :)
Weight is supposed to be a pound lighter than the 395, so my feeling on the 592XPG being a little heavy makes sense.
Price spread between the 585 and 592 is $100. 592-24" comes in at $1369 MSRP; $90 more than the 395.
Numbers are live and I put an order in the system. Forecast ship date is 2 weeks from today, but I'm sure that's BS. :D
Thing to keep in mind is that different bar length SKU's all have different ship dates. They intend to ship these saws with the new Swedish made X-tough bars, and they do have the 24's, so ya never know what the FedEx truck might show up with. :)
Bob, for pro saws like that, is it still possible to buy just the power head, or is that frowned upon because you're not selling the usual accessories that way?
Kevin
It's not so much about missing the sale of a B&C; it's about shipping every saw with an "approved" B&C combo. (Like safety chain on the homeowner saws). Therefore every saw must be ordered with a bar and chain. In the case of these new saws, there's a lot of SKU's to pick from. 20"-36" in a mix of .050, .058, .063. Not a big deal for me as we need the bars. (more on that in a minute)
I'll sell them however the customer wants it, including PHO. We always ask how a guy would like the saw set up. We'll switch the 545 and 550 to 3/8 for guys that don't want .325. (A mistake IMO, but I'm not doing that debate tonight :) )
The bar and chain thing: There are some bar shortages that haven't fully reared their head yet. I've had 20" Oregon bars on backorder from my main supplier since April. Been getting them from other places. Tried 3 different Oregon distributors last week on 28" .058's and all 3 were out of stock; so ordered them from Husky. We're talking Powermatch bars here, not any of the lam bars. We stay on top of it. Might not have every option, but we will have something fit a guys saw. Certain chains are out. Ordered a case of the 18" TXL speed cut and they didn't even have a full case. Things should get back to normal in a few months. Unless...........if there's a serious hurricane anywhere it's all gonna blow up.
Spike time will tell, I heard today that one of the big husky dealers way out west is suppose to get some of the 592's cause the guys want them to do all the fire cutting where it got burnt this year or is still burning
So the list price up here is about the same as the 500i . Maybe a couple bucks more but no real true date on when to see the saws
Perhaps like the guy out west, I was "supposed" to get some next week.But the date is flipping and new oders entered say both saws are not available for shipment until Jan 11. Prices here seem to have settled in at $100 more than the 395's.
That bar shortage you and I have been talking about here is close to being a lot more than web gossip. I found a supply of 20's in .050, but have otherwise been loading up on the power match knockoffs that are out there. My main 3 sources of Oregon bars are OUT of large mount 20's, 24's, and 28's in both .050 and .058. There are a few 095 small mounts to be had. No problems on any of the .325 stuff.
Scratching my head on how to run with this. Feel like I have to give my regulars a heads up about this stuff. But at the same time, I can't let them buy a lot of extra bars for themselves and draw down the inventory that much faster. I pulled all of the Husky labeled power match 20's and 24's off the shelf to reserve them for the new saws. I had less bars than powerheads!
Spike, I know alot of guys are saying BS to there being a shortage but I'm telling you in my area there is nothing in much of anything as far as Husky or stihl in saws, bars ans chain and even files. WE got alot of dealers here with bare shelves. I know even my GM dealer guy just told me that he is having a very hard time getting parts for the newer trucks and stuff . Its going to get worse before it gets better . Even the big hunting stores here are limiting people to 2 boxes of ammo now. My husky dealer figures maybe March to see a 592
you got to keep enough bars to your number of powerheads
Quote from: ehp on September 16, 2021, 09:49:32 AM
you got to keep enough bars to your number of powerheads
Yeah, I normally would never get upside down like that. Got all these backorders out there and you figure that at some point, they will start showing up. But I did get those 20" 009's from that place that had some old stock. Older sleeve and graphics, so they've been around a while.
@Spike60 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=13669) it's better than nothing ::)
Quote from: Tacotodd on September 17, 2021, 04:15:08 PM
@Spike60 (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=13669) it's better than nothing ::)
Didn't mean to infer I was griping about the bars being old. I opened them up and smiled when I saw they were the older bars; the new graphics are kind of lame IMO. :D
I'm looking for another bigger landing saw so phoned my husky dealer and she told me that the earliest is Feb or March before we see a 592 . She talked straight to husky cause they have the 592 in the order book so she ordered me 2 of them but husky came back that there is none to order
@ehp (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=1195) at least she got back with you. I was in the service industry for 30yrs and my customers loved me because I tried to go the extra mile for them. And they just thought that I did it for JUST them. I didn't tell them any different, they were just not used to anybody else doing the same thing. Besides, most of my customers I really liked the attitude of!
My dealers are quite good. If I say I want something its ordered now . I'm not a tire kicking kind of guy like alot of people are . I do not haggle on price either . If you charge me twice what it's worth I will pay it and take my wallet down the road to the next dealer .
Had a 585 delivered to me last week, no sign of 592s yet here in Republic of Ireland, and I'm pretty impressed with it. As Spike says it's a lot of "new" the build quality is very good and although carb it's like running an AT saw also very good starting. Will be falling Spruce tomorrow so will get a better idea of what its really like.
Keep us updated ;)
Spike have you seen or heard anything on the new 592 , its super quiet up here
Ed, ship date is now January 11th for noth models. The way time is flying by, it's not that far out there. But as we all know, ya can't place too much faith in forecast shipping dates. lol
Sales reps have some 592 samples they are passing around, but simce I had test saws for a year, they rightfully are being seen by other dealers. I'm supposed to get a look at the 585 soon. Normally the jumior models like the 555/565 stay in the shadow of the XP's, but I expect the 585 to appeal to the guys who are leary of auto-tune.
Ya my dealer said March but do not hold your breathe on that date .
Quote from: Spike60 on October 13, 2021, 07:04:38 AM
but I expect the 585 to appeal to the guys who are leary of auto-tune.
It's funny, I RESEMBLE that! ;D
Quick update on my 585. It's had about 10 tanks now and I'm pretty impressed it starts 2nd pull every time and runs almost on fumes ! Nice big fuel tank and oils really well. Runs like a AT saw with good broad power band. Air filter has nice big intake and stays very, very clean, Stihl could do with taking a look...Judging by the 585 which despite the marketing being a 90cc class saw I consider it a 390 replacement the 592 should be quite the saw ?
Thanks for the 585 update. Anxious to get my hands one. You are right in that the 585 is more of a 390 replacement at a few less CC's, and at about the same price spread as well. The 585 doesn't offer the weight savings that the 390 does, but that shouldn't affect it's sales. If it runs as close to the 592 as it's supposed to, it'll eat up a 390 in bigger wood.
Spike, alot of the husky dealers up here just got a 395 sent to them , they got nothing else to sell but they got a 395
Don't understand why it's much worse up there. They do have power heads down here; it's often a matter of what do they have for bars and which SKU's will ship. I have to enter every SKU to find out. How about this example on 372's: Order them with 24" .050 and they will ship today. Order them with 24" .058 and the ship date is 3-26-2022! I'll sell both .050 and .058, so no big deal.
Husky in my area has nothing to order but the dealers have bars in stock . Stihl on the other hand has nothing but you may find a power head but bars are hard to find
Maybe it would be a good time for manufacturers to consolidate bar and chain gauges. Really, what purpose is there to having 3 different gauges in 3/8 and .325"?
Spike. Any news on when the 592 will be released down your way . Not much if anything is being said uo here . First they gave us a number we could order the saw online and when we phoned they told us oh that's a mistake and no you cannot order it
Been watching a few videos on it and it does look like it cuts pretty good
I in no way need one. But I still want one😁
Both Pete and I have ordered them but nothing at our door . By order I mean we told the dealer to get us a pair. The cost here is about the same as a stihl 500i so not cheap
I just plan on using it on the landing . It's to heavy to fall with I think but we will see . I like these new super light stihls for that
Ed, the latest ship date is Jan 10th, so only about a month away at this point. But as we've learned over the past year and a half, you can't place much faith in those dates. I don't know if the power heads have arrived yet.
Can you order them. Like I said before we had a order number but they would not let us order any
Yes, the SKU's are live and the system is taking orders. I've got 2 orders in the system; one for the release date, and a bunch on my Spring order. There's been no movement/change on the 1-10-22 date which is a good sign.
That's good to hear . I guess only time will tell.
Stopped by the husky dealer this morning as ut pouring out and they cannot give me a date on when the 592 will ever show up husky is saying end of March but donot hold your breathe . The dealer has 1 battery saw . That's it . Nothing else and has no time frame from huskyvwhen saws are to show up that have been on order for a long period of time
Still showing Jan 10th for us down here.
But I found out that of the 28 tractors that I ordered, I'm getting 5. :(
Shortages will not be that much of an issue with the stuff coming from Sweden. The ride on product that is made here has a much higher content of components sourced from other vendors. Tires, seats, engines, wiring harnesses, etc.
Its not going to get any better well at least around here . Soon we're going to be going into 2 full years of this deal and not being able to get parts or products we want .
Unlike normal run of things we here in Ireland got the 585/592 very quickly.
I've been running the 585 for 2 months now and am very happy with it, great on fuel one of the best starting saws I've had and plenty of usable power. Anyone that has had a 575/576 will find that the 585/592 will suffer slight dings to the muffler as those models did hardly the end of the world ? The airfilter is top class and in a company role where "I thought he cleaned it " will be very helpful.
I'll be picking up a 592 in the next few days and looking forward to that !
Any idea on what the price for a 592 with a 32" bar will be?
Up here they are pretty close to what the stihl 500i cost is what I'm being told
The 592 was delivered on 23 Dec so only started back yesterday but a day was enough to say it's a very good runner. The power band is pretty much all the way through and the AT is as smooth as silk. As I said before I've been running the 585 for a couple of months and am impressed so wasn't expecting a such a big difference allowing for cc. I can say the 585 is a bit like a mix of 390 XP speed and agility (?) with the grunt of a 395 XP and the 592 XP is not unlike a "big" 500i with grunt so no bad thing ? The timber I as a rule fell is too big for harvesters or too "hairy" so I do a lot of de- limbing which in the past meant when I could have really used a 395 size it was just too much of a handful all day now the 585/592 is perfect for all day use.
This comparison is really good stuff, OITW but how about sharing a name to help the conversation flow. Then I can really load ya down with questions. One serious operator who actually owns and runs both models is so much better than the typical , "I heard", "Some guy said", "information" That clutters up so many threads.
Prices for a 592 still looking like $100 over whatever folks were paying for a 395.
Shipping dates; let's just call them enterining. First, the dates are a joke, and little faith can be placed in them. Current reality is always in flux, so what's happening next week can be quite different from what's going on today. As of yesterday, my "early release" 585/592 order flipped out to 2-14. My preseason stock order that was supposed to ship on 3-15, has now moved up to 2-8. Huh? A dealer I know in PA had a bunch of other saw models arrive that weren't supposed to ship for another month. I do check every day, but until I see "out for pick", I can't tell anyone anything accurate.
What's driving this in part and it applies to all models, is the transition from Oregon sourced bars to the Swedish made "X-tough" bars. If I enter a dozen different SKU's for any of these saws, ship dates will be all over the place. It's gotten bad enough that they are considering turning on the PHO product codes and shipping powerheads.
I'd be happty to just leave the B&C's on backorder cause I need bars now or later either way. Really low on 20" .058's. No Husky XT's and all 3 of my Oregon distributors are out. Been keeping Powercut knockoff's from Rotary and Oregon Versacuts in stock along with the Sugi's, so we've got options. Things aren't that bad in the .050 world, but guys with multiple saws don't want the aggravation of mixed supplies. Some of my custoimers can easily have 20 plus saws, and many buy chain by the case. And we're talking 20, 24, 28, and 36 inch lengths. Gotta stay with the gauge they are using!
Then...........there's the .325 saws. Only .050 if they run the Sugi's, and some guys want 550's converted to 3/8, which can be either .050 or .058 depending on the customer. The newest wrinkle will be that the T540's are all coming in with the new Nano 80 speed cut chain, so we'll be converting them both ways for a while. Requires a drum/sprocket change. That stuff does cut real sweet, and will win out IMO. :)
Shipping powerheads.....oooooooooh!
Kevin
Feel free to load up the questions Spike and I was thinking I'm fairly rare having both and a 500i. I mention the 500i since the internet insisted in comparing the 572/500i a couple of years ago it seems to be a replay with the 500i and 592.....
We seem to be getting bars chains ok but I have heard of slow part and mower supply here.
Ok fire away Spike all the best Dave !
From the specs the 592 has slightly more hp than a 661 where the 500i has a little less grunt and weight than the 661. You can put your information in on the husky site when they will ship
Just got a email they are on the way to North America
And any info you get is to be iaken with a grain of salt. Or better yet, with a 5 lb bag of salt. :)
Induvidual SKU's vary of course by the B&C combo chosen. On the good news side, my ship dates have moved up fro 2-14 to 1-31. Problem is they've moved before and can be expected to move again. Even though I'm used to this, I still check them every day because I'n, looking for that "out for pick" message I mentioned earlier.
Getting anxious to see that on several other models too!
Why did Husky go backwards and make the 585 not AT?
Quote from: Woodfarmer on January 23, 2022, 09:01:55 AM
Why did Husky go backwards and make the 585 not AT?
To retain the forest service contracts...
Forest Service do not use AT saws...
Guess what shipped. 8)
OK, first 592's arrived yesterday. To add to the anxiety and distraction of waiting for them, they ddn't show up until 4:30 because the fedex truck got stuck in someones poorly plowed driveway. Normally see him around 10:00 AM.
Didn't really look it over too close. Muffler is reinforced from the test saws is all I noticed. Only got 4 on this delivery, and they are spoken for. 20 more on the Spring order.
Keep us updated especially the 592
Interesting on the stronger muffler as on mine ,585 & 592, have taken a few bangs already as I said in an earlier post it's like the 575/576 that also was easy to damage.
Quote from: Spike60 on January 26, 2022, 05:36:50 AM
OK, first 592's arrived yesterday. To add to the anxiety and distraction of waiting for them, they ddn't show up until 4:30 because the fedex truck got stuck in someones poorly plowed driveway. Normally see him around 10:00 AM.
Didn't really look it over too close. Muffler is reinforced from the test saws is all I noticed. Only got 4 on this delivery, and they are spoken for. 20 more on the Spring order.
Bob, can you be more specific on how the muffler was reinforced....versus the test model?
Kevin
Just an extra plate on the front.
Ok....like Husky did on their bigger cc saws of lore like the 2100. Thanks for the info.
Kevin
Also a much better re-design of the captured bar nuts. Expect this will eventually make it to the 565/572, as the side cover is otherwise the same. Which in turn means 372 and 390 covers also swap back and forth with the new saws.
So is the bar mount the old 'Husky large mount' or something more specialized?
What I'm getting at is if it will be possible to run .404 large mount bars with a .404 rim sprocket drive.....
Kevin
Current 009 mount, same as the rest. No reason ya can't run .404 on it.
Not sure what you mean by "old" Husky mount. Did you guys out west have mounts for studs larger than the standard 8mm?
No, just meant that large cc Husky saws have had the 'large mount' bar designation since the 70's. To me that's 'old'.
Kevin
I get to pick up my 592xp Friday. Found out today it came in. About 6 month wait. They also had some 585 models show up. The shop looked well stocked today. Good to see product on the shelf.
I was in the local saw shop a few weeks ago, they had a good selection of 572's and one 592. It's a nice looking saw, felt pretty hefty in the store but it's hard to get a true feel for something until it's out in the woods. Good luck with your's!
Thank you. I will update the tread as to how the saw performs. The good and the bad. It has a 32" lite bar.
If my time on the 585, 9 months 592, 6 months is anything to go by you should be very happy.
Next step, get it dirty!
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Looks Awesome! Eager to hear your thoughts on everything
Read through the owners manual this evening. Few things of note. Carburetor has high and low adjustment needles. They do have plastic limiting caps installed. 1/2 turn with limit caps intact. Saw was shipped with hardware and winter cover. Other saws I have, the winter cover was purchased separate. Nice it was included. Instructions say to use the cover in temps colder than 23° F (-5° C). I have always used 40:1 oil/fuel mix. Manual is suggesting 50:1 No need to discuss mix ratio, we all have our own preferred mix. I'll stick with the 40:1
Can it run with the 61?😁
Have one more major upgrade to do on the 61. Then it will. Waiting for an XP sticker!
Think you may have mis-read the manual as it covers 585/592 XP and 592 XPG it will be talking about the 585 which indeed has an adjustable carb.
I will read it again and see what I mis interpreted. Thanks for the heads up.
I should have added that in common with any other company today if it's a kettle or a quad bike the manuals have been simplified by using pictograms and cover several models so it's not always clear, I think, to see exactly all the info about the item you have ! I think it's almost too simple but maybe that's just me being a child of the 60's and been brought up reading proper instruction manual.
Well said outinthewood, I'm with you on the 60's thing.
Way back when I bought my first Stihl there was a few German to English translation grammer mistakes in their owner's manuals.
Worse now what we see today with Chinese translation with their products instructions.
Oh gosh the Chinese to English translation in some of the manuals...they would do way better to just use Google translate🤦♂️
I have more trouble with those darn pictograms than anything. I prefer a nice manual with clear illustrations or photos. And darn all the acronyms that are cropping up. If you don't have time to write it out then you are in to much of a hurry.
So no one is saying much on these saws and how they are working ?
I picked one up a 592 at a logging show the other day. That's all I can report🤷♂️😊 It actually felt a tad heavier in my hands than the 390xp next to it. It could've even had a longer bar on it or something, I didn't even bother to pull the bar covers off of them. The outfit that had the saws usually has awesome deals on saws at this show, I bought my 390 and 562 there years past and probably saved $400 between the two. Not this year, they had about half the merchandise of normal and the saws weren't discounted much at all. The older line models like the 390 had some discount, but I think the 592 was $1419 iirc. I think I paid $800 for my 390 4-5 years back (didn't know it was the "good ol days"🤷♂️)
With fall in the air my 592 will get more use and I can add my 2¢. I have several big jobs scheduled that will put it through the ringer. But I am not a heavy user of this size saw. And all summer I have been running other 60 - 88 cc saws. Older 1 and 2 series Husqvarna. Summer went by way too fast.
Been running the 585 for about a year and the 592 for not much less, very happy with them as good on fuel easy to use or should I say pleasant to use. I've found I'm using them in place of my 572 as not much heavier or much more to run. They tend to live with a 28" bar although have put 42" 0n 592 and 36" on 585 with no problem as they oil well and have a good power delivery. The 585 runs just like a AT saw and both start very easily. Only niggle is a couple of broken AV springs, tank to case one, along with the exhaust takes a battering. Put up a video and pic of typical type of Spruce I do yesterday on instagram #outinthewoodagain
Good grief @Dhansen how many saws do you have?! I remember when you joined and you were kinda just getting into it (or so was my impression) Now it seems like you have every current model lol I too have expanded since then, but not on your scale lol
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Been running the 585 for about a year and the 592 for not much less, very happy with them as good on fuel easy to use or should I say pleasant to use. I've found I'm using them in place of my 572 as not much heavier or much more to run. They tend to live with a 28" bar although have put 42" 0n 592 and 36" on 585 with no problem as they oil well and have a good power delivery. The 585 runs just like a AT saw and both start very easily. Only niggle is a couple of broken AV springs, tank to case one, along with the exhaust takes a battering. Put up a video and pic of typical type of Spruce I do yesterday on instagram #outinthewoodagain
I have similar thoughts on the 592 and have also gone through a few replacement parts; tank to case mount, cylinder to handle mount, outer felling dogs, rewind pulley, muffler
Guydreads, all I can say is Spike and many others on this fourm are relentless enablers! For years three main saws an a pole saw was perfect. Always had two or three backup loaner type saws. But since my 2511P, I have started enjoying rescuing old Husqvarna saws that just need some TLC. I like to work on the saws, cut and used them. I have been in the same house since 1985 and all I use is wood to heat.
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@Dhansen those are some sharp looking saws. I'll post some pictures of my toys tools maybe.
The 266 was a great saw. There were probably thousands of them in the woods of Northern MN at one time, before logging all went mechanized. Pulp cutters were usually a 3 man crew with a cable skidder. A faller, the skidder man, and a man bucking on the landing. And by and large they were running Husky 266xp's.
Yup, 266 and Jonsered 670 kind of ruled the woods around here as well. The 670 gained some market share as the intake boot addressed the heat transfer issues that the the 266 and Jonny 630 had with the intake block.
I'm an enabler, huh? :) Guilty as charged, and glad to help in any way I can. Thing is that once you get bit, you have to fill in the blanks with all the missing models. Have you run across a 242XP yet?
No 242xp yet. Hadn't even looked at one. See what your doing.
I know I'm new here, but in the short almost two years, I have found many useful and informative threads here. I don't know everyone's names, but lots of helpful folks here. From coast to coast and near by. It has helped me learn more about my saws and correct what I thought I knew about my saws.
Thanks to all who reply.
@Dhansen same here. I think we joined right around the same time actually
I just checked and you joined about 2 moths later than I
Outinthewoods is correct, my 592 xp does not have an adjustable carburetor. I have also read the operators manual again, and again and it still would lead me into thinking my saw is adjustable, when it clearly is not. I also noticed the magnet inline after the fuel filter on the rubber fuel line inside the fuel tank. Easy to service drive sprocket rim, clutch hub bearing and oil pump. They sure could put a better manual together for the saw owner. Can a service manual be purchased?
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Not a good saw for pumpkin carving! Happy Halloween.
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Just some photos. 550xp and 592xp. The 592 bar has the nose sprocket grease port, the 550 does not. I personally like the nose sprockets that can be greased, but I know it's not a big deal either way. Both saws have been working great, starting easy and no performance or reliability issues. Cold start. I prime 5 times. Full choke one pull, release choke, but stay on fast idle. Next pull they are running. Warm start I just put them on high idle and pull once.
It seems like every time I've greased a bar tip, then the sprocket blows out shortly afterwards. I think I finally threw my tip greaser into the woods😊
If the bar has the grease hole for the nose sprocket, I grease them every time I add gas. Just a habit started 40 years ago.
That's always been the rule for tips. Either you always grease it, or you never grease it. Now and then, doesn't work for whatever reason.
I sure like the self adjusting carburetor system. About 3 years ago I was worrying about it, but now have come to realize it is reliable and very functional. I think Husqvarna calls it auto tune.
592xp, reliable, easy starting, plenty of power, but she likes to empty the fuel tank running WOT. No regrets and glad to have one. 32" bar buried in Elm.
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Husqvarna 572HTSS & Husqvarna 585 In The Woods Early Spring & New "PPE's", Saw "Pants" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZhR89wgU5U&t=52s)
About the greasing of nosewheel, the grease will flush out the dirt from the bearing, as will the chain oil if you don't grease at all.
If you grease once in a while, the grease will prevent the oil from flushing out the dirt.
I've owned a 592xp for close to a year now, so far no problems or complaints. Starts easy, and runs smooth. I had ordered it with a 32" standard x-tough bar but soon after swapped it out for a 28" x-tough light and added the full wrap handle. It balances out nice with this setup. I'll eventually get a light weight 32" bar of some sort for it as I do like the extra reach.
One thing I noticed on the 592xp, In long deep cuts. 32" bar and 44" wood. With the dogs on the bark, Hand on top of the handle, the exhaust out the front of the muffler comes off the bark and right back on your hand. Compared to my 266 which directs the exhaust to the side more than the front. I moved my hand off to the side of the handlebar to avoid the heat. Maybe on a cold day it would not be as bad or thicker gloves, but it was noticeable, and you would not want to leave it there. But these were long WOT cuts with the dogs up tight to the bark. Still really like this saw. Was cutting with a 385 (32") and the 592 both today, alternating between refueling. Two very different sounding saws. Both are fun to run!
Yes, noodling big rounds with 592xp and that top exhaust will absolutely get your left hand hot, like really hot to the point where I've thought I've burned myself. I've had the saw for about a year and have ran it a lot. It's been a very reliable and strong saw. AT has been flawless....knock on wood.
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Always find it interesting how the spec sheet defines the discussion vs. the performance and life with a saw over time.
Just on saw forums I think?
My experiance out in the woods with fellers and working at the mills is opinions and purchases are based upon field performance. They want saws that start, can stand being tossed about like a rock and can be fixed when they find new ways to break them. And if that saw weighs 10 oz more, has .13 less HP and takes .537 seconds more to cut a cookie they could care less. Maybe its just the people I work for? LOL
The cookie cutting contests have merit for competition saws I'm sure. They're made for doing just that- fastest speed through a competition log in controlled conditions. It doesn't really mean much for a working saw though IMO.
Reliable and effective is a good start. No fun with a hard starting or poor cutting saw. We all have are favorite go - to saw, and it's for a reason. If I experience a saw not cutting well, I stop using it till I have the time to find out why. No reason to push through a job when the tool is not performing properly.
Current thoughts on a 585, now with time on it an the g395 & 572
Husqvarna 585 Working Review, Afternoon With A 585 part1, What, A Standard No Full Wrap Handle? - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goyUWKctPos&t=782s)
Here's the 592xp not long after I bought it.
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