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Title: Species id
Post by: DonW on February 27, 2021, 07:54:27 PM
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 the knot configuration exposed on the end grain gives an indication of species. What species is this?
Title: Re: Species id
Post by: Tacotodd on February 27, 2021, 08:03:42 PM
Probably need a fresh view. 🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: Species id
Post by: DonW on February 27, 2021, 08:13:37 PM
Quote from: Tacotodd on February 27, 2021, 08:03:42 PM
Probably need a fresh view. 🤷‍♂️
The view is pretty clear of the one end grain, the knots form a kind of star indicating a growth with branches opposing each other rather than a staggered growth. Is that a characteristic of Spruce or another evergreen?

Title: Re: Species id
Post by: btulloh on February 27, 2021, 08:41:07 PM
It is some kind of conifer.  That is a whorl like a white pine, but I'm not familiar enough with species in your area. What conifer in your region has branches in whorls like that. More than one type?
Title: Re: Species id
Post by: DonW on February 27, 2021, 09:05:33 PM
Quote from: btulloh on February 27, 2021, 08:41:07 PM
It is some kind of conifer.  That is a whorl like a white pine, but I'm not familiar enough with species in your area. What conifer in your region has branches in whorls like that. More than one type?
Neither am I being new to this area. There are Spruce, Ponderosa, "Pine", Pinion and Juniper but these last are identifiable enough. Then it's not the case that the opposing branches is an identifying feature? Thought I was on to some way of knowing the species tree used to build these old log structures. 

Title: Re: Species id
Post by: btulloh on February 27, 2021, 09:10:57 PM
More than one species does that. I don't know how many different ones out there the do it though.  I guess we'll need a real expert like WDH to check in.

They look like the would be from smallish branches, so that may narrow it down. 
Title: Re: Species id
Post by: btulloh on February 28, 2021, 12:06:48 PM
Well I thought Danny and/or caveman might see this and chime in, but I guess it's time for the Bat Signal. @WDH (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=4370)  @caveman (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=12883) 

Title: Re: Species id
Post by: SwampDonkey on February 28, 2021, 02:00:09 PM
If it were here in New Brunswick I would say spruce. I've never seen a camp made of fir or pine logs. Log homes these days can be made of red pine logs, but that is modern times. My grandfather had many camps in the woods and I have been to all them, plus a number of fishing camps on rivers. They were all spruce, and mostly red or black spruce, but white spruce is also possible. Out your way, spruce or pine is probably likely.

Back east here, I have only seen one cabin made of northern white cedar up this way, but that was square timber, not logs. And branches are alternate, not whorled on those.

You going to build one? ;D
Title: Re: Species id
Post by: WDH on February 28, 2021, 06:38:07 PM
It is very likely lodgepole pine, Pinus contorta.  
Title: Re: Species id
Post by: DonW on February 28, 2021, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: SwampDonkey on February 28, 2021, 02:00:09 PM
You going to build one? ;D
I'm going to fix some up replacing bad sections where it's needed. Getting close on the right wood is where I chose to start.
Quote from: WDH on February 28, 2021, 06:38:07 PM
It is very likely lodgepole pine, Pinus contorta.  
It's one of the trees growing in the area so could be that's what's been used. Very helpful.