One more to frame for the wall of shame. Got to watch in real time while I was 100 miles down the road. $300 camera and $10 a month for cell service. The guy in green is wearing a badge. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/25189/868287739_20210712101056_IMAG0059-101-59.JPG?easyrotate_cache=1626117484)
They admitted to seeing all the posted signs and to climb the locked gate but didn't think that applied to fishing "in the river". Morons. Their fine I am sure will be way less than the cost of the camera; but this picture was worth every last penny.
Once someone decides in their head they are above other people and entitled to do whatever, no sign or gates will stop them. I have signs posted and I have people try to come down here every week despite it obviously not being a public park and me living here. Go on any of these ppls property though and I bet they’d cry a fit. When I hear ATVs especially I’m on the watch, atv riders Seem to live to try to tour up here.
I hear atvs on the next door lands all the time. They just love to tear up marshes and habitats, the marshy the better. Let’s ruin that eco system for a few years! Plus my bike leaks oil!! Cool!!
Oh sorry I’m ranting on your thread I realized. Pologies lol.
I hope these folks don’t return to your property.
If the guy in the blue shirt climbed your gate he probably owes you for damages.
Nice to see the landowner come out top. That camera was a good purchase.
Quote from: HemlockKing on July 12, 2021, 03:33:59 PM
Once someone decides in their head they are above other people and entitled to do whatever, no sign or gates will stop them. I have signs posted and I have people try to come down here every week despite it obviously not being a public park and me living here. Go on any of these ppls property though and I bet they'd cry a fit. When I hear ATVs especially I'm on the watch, atv riders Seem to live to try to tour up here.
ATV riders are worse and harder to catch.
Fences make good neighbors.
The higher the voltage the better.
Our horse fences have a no. 9 aluminum hot wire about 4" above the 5' high top board of the four board fencing. It's main purpose, which it works fine at, is to keep kids from climbing in.
Quote from: Tom King on July 14, 2021, 07:22:41 PM
Our horse fences have a no. 9 aluminum hot wire about 4" above the 5' high top board of the four board fencing. It's main purpose, which it works fine at, is to keep kids from climbing in.
I use multi-strand High Tensile fence, of which some are hot and some are grounded..... I don't put signs up declaring which is which. If folks are that adventurous, let them find out how to get in the fence.
I agree with the comment about ATVs being most destructive; the only time they're not tearing up other peoples' property is when they're on their own (which is usually only when they have to haul their over-nourished back-side to the mailbox!).
Steve
It is interesting how many ATV owners/riders in this area don't own much land. Most live in town, or a minimum lot along the road in the country.
in the northeast there are trails all over, every powerline, sandpit etc.. In the southeast everyone has a quad or sxs and only a fraction of the renegade riding spots. The risk of a trespasser shot by a landowner is damatically higher.
My personall conclusion is the more a state takes policing out of the publics hands the more freedom trespassers have to do it right under the landowners nose.
I was the dirtbike kid when i was young and am the landowner now. I guess i can sympathize with all sides.
Quote from: mike_belben on July 14, 2021, 06:01:37 PM
The higher the voltage the better.
Add plenty of amperage and it will go a long way towards minimizing the problem and helping clean the gene pool.
Probably best if an "Old Timer" does it as life in prison is a lot less of a deterant.
GAB
There is a big part of me that agrees but i dont think it fits the designers plan.
Quote from: Old saw fixer on July 15, 2021, 10:27:08 AM
It is interesting how many ATV owners/riders in this area don't own much land. Most live in town, or a minimum lot along the road in the country.
Same thing with the deer dog hunting crowd. Live on a Cul-de-sac in a HOA, drive a jacked up cowboy Cadillac mall crawler, pay $800 hunt club dues, then come fall they show up in the sticks and act like they own every acre. Dogs everywhere, guys claiming "right to retrieve" as they trespass, shooting at deer right from the road, and wounding more deer than they ever harvest.
One such fellow showed up last fall, stood in the road, and shot a deer on my farm, which at the time was standing between he and my occupied mill building. When he saw me coming he took off like the coward he is, but left behind plenty of evidence and personal belongings that he went to jail tired rather than just going to jail.
One thing that I found out from the 300+ hunting clubs that leased the company land of the large timber company that I worked for is that hunting brings out the worst in the human race :). ATV's simply add to the excitement.
Quote from: Old saw fixer on July 15, 2021, 10:27:08 AM
It is interesting how many ATV owners/riders in this area don't own much land. Most live in town, or a minimum lot along the road in the country.
That burns me too. ::)
Quote from: Tom King on July 14, 2021, 07:22:41 PM
Our horse fences have a no. 9 aluminum hot wire about 4" above the 5' high top board of the four board fencing. It's main purpose, which it works fine at, is to keep kids from climbing in.
signs can be ignored
a good ZAP cannot
I have a Gallagher MBX250 controller rated for 1,000 acres.
25 Joules
I have found 5 joules very effective on my own while fixing fence. As I am older and wiser, I find I can take the time to unplug the fencers when doing stuff.
I think they are rated by the strange term "joules" because if you touch a good hot one, joule never want to do that again😂 I'll see myself out...
Any fence measured in joules you do not want to mess with. I used to work with a guy that had a ranch in South Dakota, got zapped by one of those Gallagher fences when he was a kid, said it scarred him for life.