I got tired of our daily nuisance rains, that kept me from sawing for weeks on end, so I put a tarp over the mill. It is a 28x39 foot tarp.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarped.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627366813)
I wanted narrower, like 20 feet, but it was all Harbor Freight had in stock. I used a 1/2 rope over the mill between two huge trees. I used the Mahindra's loader to tighten the 1/2 inch rope, while I was on the telehandler platform screwing a hand formed "tunnel clamp" over the rope into the tree, then I tied the rope to itself.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarped_2.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627366869)
I had my friend run the telehandler while I went up into the surrounding trees and tied off lines. One side of the tarp is attached to the fence top board. I added some permanent support boards on the sawdust chute side, over the sawhead near the tongue, and 2x2s over the log loading side.
I still had some sag at full sawhead height, so I added 2 movable support boards.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarped_Movable_Support_Pole.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627366946)
They will keep the rain from puddling on top and keep the tarp off the sawhead at full height. They will be moved around for log loading and first cuts on 36 inch logs.
As the first forecast rain is later today, we will see. It will be a work in progress to tweet it to stay up and shed rain correctly. Any bets how long it will last?
hugs, Brandi
Looks good.
I bet it won't rain anymore now that you've put a rain tarp up. :D :D
I see a shed in your future.
Quote from: kelLOGg on July 27, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
I see a shed in your future.
Very soon. Next wind storm the neighbours will have a nice new tarp!
should repel some of the sun you get as well.
Hopefully that tree canopy provides some wind and sun buffering and no branches come down on it. I've had those same HF tarps and a small tear turns into a giant hole awful quick!
It would be nice if it lasted a few weeks.
Looks good. Your next "tarp" will be 6X6's, 2X6's, 2X4's and galvalume. ;D
I did the same sorta thing a few years ago. I went through a few tarps but it did the intended job and bought me some time to figure out the next move. Happy sawing, dry and in the shade!! Brian
You could send some of that nuisance rain north to Kansas!
Reminds me of Tom's tarp in the woods.
I did something similar over the Meadows portable circle mill I had set up on an old ridgetop farm grown up in cedars. It more or less held up the 6 months we had the mill set up there as we logged and sawed it all on site.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/25189/Meadows_cedar_mill~0.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619286954)
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Keeping the sun off of you will be just as valuable as shedding rain👍
I have a buddy who does leatherwork as a hobby/small business. He has custom sized tarps for us and reinforced with rope and grommets. @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) what ever works. we reduced tarp size to fit our tents in scouts so there was no tarp extending outside the tent. looks better and does not flow shed rainwater under the tent floor.
Quote from: kelLOGg on July 27, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
I see a shed in your future.
I have a 40x60 or 80 foot shed planned. Have all the 6x6 posts and 20 foot full size 2x12 roof joists cut. Just need to finished some sawmill orders and some other projects before starting on the shed. I already got concrete and roof truss quotes. Just a matter of time. I have a shed thread started on here, discussing roof loading and such.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: HemlockKing on July 27, 2021, 06:43:50 AM
Quote from: kelLOGg on July 27, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
I see a shed in your future.
Very soon. Next wind storm the neighbours will have a nice new tarp!
Nope. Too many trees here. Either it will wrap around the sawmill or a tree, but it has to detach from the fence first. It is secured to the fence top board with screws.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: doc henderson on July 27, 2021, 07:16:56 AM
should repel some of the sun you get as well.
Doc,
Yes, and a tad bit darker underneath it. Sawing last evening had me needing my headlight sooner to see the tension gauge good. Got the pneumatic tires installed on the fan.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Fan_Pneumatic_Tires.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627496989)
Maybe I can mount a light over the fan? First tarped log.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_First_Tarped_Log.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627497059)
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: Magicman on July 27, 2021, 08:09:46 AM
Looks good. Your next "tarp" will be 6X6's, 2X6's, 2X4's and galvalume. ;D
How true, Lynn. I am itching to get started on the "permanent" shed.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: stavebuyer on July 27, 2021, 03:50:47 PM
I did something similar over the Meadows portable circle mill I had set up on an old ridgetop farm grown up in cedars. It more or less held up the 6 months we had the mill set up there as we logged and sawed it all on site.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/25189/Meadows_cedar_mill~0.jpeg?easyrotate_cache=1619286954)
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Six months is a good goal to shoot for. Hopefully will be roofing galvalume by then.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: barbender on July 27, 2021, 10:31:44 PM
Keeping the sun off of you will be just as valuable as shedding rain👍
With my tree canopy, sun only hits the mill around 1 to 2:30 each afternoon. Shade all the rest of the day. But the stacking pallet is still in the sun alot.
hugs, Brandi
Here is a shot from my back deck of the tarped mill.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarp_From_Deck.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627500120)
hugs, Brandi
If anyone is interested.................here's the link to my shed thread.....https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=112921.0
hugs, Brandi
well at the risk of sounding (not intended) off color you "got some nice equipment" there @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) :) It is only temporary, but curious if the side that flaps down a bit, is to the south? can it be made to be adjustable and raised up at times. just thinking out loud. cheers! doc.
Quote from: doc henderson on July 28, 2021, 03:50:14 PM
well at the risk of sounding (not intended) off color you "got some nice equipment" there @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) :) It is only temporary, but curious if the side that flaps down a bit, is to the south? can it be made to be adjustable and raised up at times. just thinking out loud. cheers! doc.
Off color is right Doc. Too much equipment that isn't
RED. The side "that flaps down a bit" is secured to the fence for now. I could secure it via ropes to trees on the other side of the fence for more late afternoon light.
hugs, Brandi
That's a grand version of how I'm setting up to assemble my mill, then saw the lumber to build a permanent home. I have a 10x20 tent (roof and separate sides if needed). In that, once assembled, I'll saw and build the saw shed next to the tent. For light I have a string of 12V LED lights.
Quote from: maple flats on July 29, 2021, 06:56:52 AM
That's a grand version of how I'm setting up to assemble my mill, then saw the lumber to build a permanent home. I have a 10x20 tent (roof and separate sides if needed). In that, once assembled, I'll saw and build the saw shed next to the tent. For light I have a string of 12V LED lights.
Thanks. I will check look into a string of LED lights.
hugs, Brandi
First log milled under the tarp.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_First_Tarped_Log~0.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1627878934)
As you can see, it's a little dim under the big top.
hugs, Brandi
Lookin' Good Brandi..... thumbs-up
maybe some up lighting to reflect off the tarps, and down lighting under the mill to pimp it up a bit. need an amp and subwoofer for tunes on the sawmill! :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) :D :D :D
Quote from: Magicman on August 02, 2021, 07:48:28 AM
Lookin' Good Brandi..... thumbs-up
Thanks Lynn!
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: doc henderson on August 02, 2021, 09:57:34 AM
maybe some np lighting to reflect off the tarps, and down lighting under the mill to pimp it up a bit. need an amp and subwoofer for tunes on the sawmill! :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) :D :D :D
Doc,
I got an old broken down CD player/boom box blaring Country music from the barn. But the lights are developing as a must have.
My friend gave me a radio for my birthday. It mounts under the canopy of the tractor. Just gotta install it.
hugs, Brandi
Lights, radio, next it will be dancing under the BIG top. 8)
Since its a woodyard/sawmill I started to comment on what kind of dancing to expect but I am trying to be a good boy so I bited my tongue. :D
I guess if Brandi provides little whisk brooms to strap on everyone's feet and they go line dancing she can at least get the sawdust swept out of the barn every Saturday night. ;)
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on August 03, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
Since its a woodyard/sawmill I started to comment on what kind of dancing to expect but I am trying to be a good boy so I bited my tongue. :D
I guess if Brandi provides little whisk brooms to strap on everyone's feet and they go line dancing she can at least get the sawdust swept out of the barn every Saturday night. ;)
Good thing you bit your tongue. You seem to do that alot. Actually, a little sawdust on the floor makes better two steppin' and polkas. Wooden floor dance halls use a little cornmill on the floor.
hugs, Brandi
I knew the steakhouses used to have your throw the peanut hulls on the floor and I heard it was actually good for the wood but being blessed with 2 left feet and married to a shy country girl who was the daughter of the Baptist preacher, I never got into the dance scene. I don't know about the cornmeal - I guess as long as they had extra after frying the catfish and making the hushpuppies and storing your catalpa worms in it if there was any left over you could put it on the dance floor.
Question: What kind of dancing do politicians do?
Answer: Poll dancing.
Stay safe, stay cool in the shade.
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on August 03, 2021, 05:21:07 PM
I knew the steakhouses used to have your throw the peanut hulls on the floor and I heard it was actually good for the wood but being blessed with 2 left feet and married to a shy country girl who was the daughter of the Baptist preacher, I never got into the dance scene. I don't know about the cornmeal - I guess as long as they had extra after frying the catfish and making the hushpuppies and storing your catalpa worms in it if there was any left over you could put it on the dance floor.
Question: What kind of dancing do politicians do?
Answer: Poll dancing.
Stay safe, stay cool in the shade.
Texas Roadhouse is the only place I have been to that lets you throw peanut hulls on the floor, but that is after you eat the peanuts. But, it is so crowded, it's standing room outside waiting to get in. I like to get there about 4 in the afternoon and be gone when the crowds start arriving.
hugs, Brandi
some of the farm stores here do it on occasion, to make you shop there. offer peanuts and let the hulls be thrown on the floor. i do not like to do that, and prefer peanuts already hulled as i am the lazy type, and want an handful at a time in my mouth. used to have a peanut barrel for boy scouts stuff, but one kid with an allergy and a mom who thought it was every ones responsibility to watch over him was enough to stop that tradition. only reaction i ever saw was an anxiety one to eating something with peanuts, as he thought he had to go to the ed and get an epi pen shot. he sat in the car, and never had any throat welling or difficulty breathing. just anxiety. :o
Amazing how we shift from sawing or whatever to food ain't it. :D
In Saudi street vendors cooked raw peanuts in salt in a wok over a ventilated gallon can as a brazier with charcoal. They took them out with a slotted spoon and shook most of the salt off to continue to use. They sold them in a rolled up computer print-out page for 1 riyal/tube (I guess that was about a cup of peanuts for 27 cents). They tasted like our salted Planter's Peanuts. I would visit the souks and buy raw peanuts in the shell and roast/parch them. I was paying 5 SR/kg or $1.30 for 2.2 lbs. One day I noticed they had shelled peanuts for sale also so I asked how much they were. The vendor told me "Five riyals per kilo." Well my Mama didn't raise no fool! If I could buy shelled ones for the same price as in the hull that was what I was going to do and did till I left there. I never understood the economics of their pricing but I was just a dumb infidel and I was not going to argue with them.
Round here it was sawdust on the floor and maybe a cuspidor or two,but most missed that and it just added a little color to the sawdust. :D
Here if you want peanuts then you need to mosy over to the hay pile and dig them out of a bale BEFORE the cows get to it, they will fight you for them. Raw, dried on the vine, in the bale - best eating peanuts you will ever have and I am not joking. Even the red skins are edible that way. But - that's probably more work than @doc henderson (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=41041) would like. :D
I have vivid memories as a youth of making a hunting blind out of peanut vines from the field after harvest to hunt doves, sitting there in the hot sun eating those dried peanuts off the vines that the harvester missed. I agree; they are so tasty.
Today we had wind gusts of 45-50 mph. Needless to say, the tarp didn't make it. I was tying a broken rope with a huge gust lifted it up and over the sawmill and the fence. It won't be going back up. Just gonna get crackin' on the shed build.
(https://forestryforum.com/gallery/albums/userpics/27364/Sawmill_Tarp_Down.jpg?easyrotate_cache=1635473447)
hugs, Brandi
I knew it! ;D
I've just had bad luck with tarps...
Must have been the same storm system that came through here 2 days ago.
yes they are a short term solution, and I cover with many. @Bindian (https://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=17364) sorry you short term solution was cut short by mother nature.
I've used big box store portable tents before, I usually get about a year or so of use until a heavy snow storm gets them down. (Way down south that may not be an problem. :D)
Brandi,
Sorry about the flying tarp. If you have that much wind out there I guess you don't need that fancy fan that got me in so much trouble last time. ::)
Quote from: HemlockKing on October 29, 2021, 06:49:00 AM
I knew it! ;D
I've just had bad luck with tarps...
Must have been the same storm system that came through here 2 days ago.
Yep, you called it. Strange thing is, we never have high winds except with hurricanes or tornadoes. These winds were from the Northwest, so I don't think they came from your way. If only the tarp would have survived 3 more months!
That is not the only damage. My neighbor's horses get cheap hay (and I guess cheap feed) as they crib around her trees, killing them. A Sweetgum tree blew over, cracking at the base. It took out my woven wire fence and landed in my pond.
When I called her, she laughed and said it was not her trees that caused the power outage this time. It was out for about an hour. So I told her about the tree that her horses killed getting blown over the fence. She laughed. She then went out and took a photo of the trump exclaiming the reason it fell over was it was hollow. I can't get across to her it was the bark missing that killed the tree and being hollow had nothing to with killing it.
hugs, Brandi
I probably would not be in a big hurry to get the fence fixed back unless it was causing me problems on my end such as my cows getting out. If it was just her horses I would not worry about it any time soon.
Neighbor trees and limbs falling over on to other peoples property and doing damage is a touchy issue legally it would be real hard for you to collect for damages from them. I am not sure if your insurance would cover such damage or not. A decent neighbor would normally help out but it does not sound like yours is too interested in doing so. Oh well, what goes around, comes around in one way or another.
Quote from: Bindian on October 29, 2021, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: HemlockKing on October 29, 2021, 06:49:00 AM
I knew it! ;D
I've just had bad luck with tarps...
Must have been the same storm system that came through here 2 days ago.
Yep, you called it. Strange thing is, we never have high winds except with hurricanes or tornadoes. These winds were from the Northwest, so I don't think they came from your way. If only the tarp would have survived 3 more months!
That is not the only damage. My neighbor's horses get cheap hay (and I guess cheap feed) as they crib around her trees, killing them. A Sweetgum tree blew over, cracking at the base. It took out my woven wire fence and landed in my pond.
When I called her, she laughed and said it was not her trees that caused the power outage this time. It was out for about an hour. So I told her about the tree that her horses killed getting blown over the fence. She laughed. She then went out and took a photo of the trump exclaiming the reason it fell over was it was hollow. I can't get across to her it was the bark missing that killed the tree and being hollow had nothing to with killing it.
hugs, Brandi
Yes they were coming from the northeast here as well, it was a very unusual event IMO how nobody warned us of any wind until 12 hours prior, winds hit 100kmph here, yet when a post tropical hurricane storm comes through with 60kmph wind gusts they freak out, everyone's buying propane, food etc. Hmmm
Quote from: HemlockKing on October 29, 2021, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Bindian on October 29, 2021, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: HemlockKing on October 29, 2021, 06:49:00 AM
I knew it! ;D
I've just had bad luck with tarps...
Must have been the same storm system that came through here 2 days ago.
Yep, you called it. Strange thing is, we never have high winds except with hurricanes or tornadoes. These winds were from the Northwest, so I don't think they came from your way. If only the tarp would have survived 3 more months!
That is not the only damage. My neighbor's horses get cheap hay (and I guess cheap feed) as they crib around her trees, killing them. A Sweetgum tree blew over, cracking at the base. It took out my woven wire fence and landed in my pond.
When I called her, she laughed and said it was not her trees that caused the power outage this time. It was out for about an hour. So I told her about the tree that her horses killed getting blown over the fence. She laughed. She then went out and took a photo of the trump exclaiming the reason it fell over was it was hollow. I can't get across to her it was the bark missing that killed the tree and being hollow had nothing to with killing it.
hugs, Brandi
Yes they were coming from the northeast here as well, it was a very unusual event IMO how nobody warned us of any wind until 12 hours prior, winds hit 100kmph here, yet when a post tropical hurricane storm comes through with 60kmph wind gusts they freak out, everyone's buying propane, food etc. Hmmm
Could have been. I think it was in a circular pattern.
hugs, Brandi
Quote from: WV Sawmiller on October 29, 2021, 02:12:40 PM
I probably would not be in a big hurry to get the fence fixed back unless it was causing me problems on my end such as my cows getting out. If it was just her horses I would not worry about it any time soon.
Neighbor trees and limbs falling over on to other peoples property and doing damage is a touchy issue legally it would be real hard for you to collect for damages from them. I am not sure if your insurance would cover such damage or not. A decent neighbor would normally help out but it does not sound like yours is too interested in doing so. Oh well, what goes around, comes around in one way or another.
We are good neighbors, but we have our differences. Found that out when she came over to Brady's and we were talking politics. I would imagine she cringes when she sees my Trump flag waving on the dam.
She sawed the tree off the fence, but she has only handled the box store saw twice before. I showed her how to cut from below. She had a huge notch like she was using an ax.
I told her when that saw wore out (and it will soon) to go to the Stihl dealer in Conroe and tell them Brandi send her.
hugs, Brandi
I typically don't worry to much about the rain after living mist of my life on the Oregon Coast. Just put on the rain gear and go to it. I did a mobile job this week about 4 hours south of me and when I showed up, the customer was setting up a tarp to keep the rain off of us all week. I kinda giggled to myself a little, but when it started raining, I was happy to be under tarp.
https://youtube.com/shorts/u5KTlX5MEOw?feature=share (https://youtube.com/shorts/u5KTlX5MEOw?feature=share)
I will not saw in the rain.
You said "living mist of my life on the Oregon coast" that may of been a typo but couldn't have been more fitting😂 I don't think I could handle living in the PNW. But I suppose it is similar to the winter cold up here, you just get dressed for it and go to work🤷♂️
Lynn, I suspect that you grew into that philosophy. I know the older I get, the more I'm concerned about the weather, but since this is my only income now, I go rain or shine, just not equally enthusiastic
Lol, I guess predictive text finally got one right. It's definitely a matter of dressing for the occasion. I'm finding it easier to dress for the dry cold than the wet cold rain.
Dry cold over wet rainy cold anytime. I think I feel less cold on a 0° dry day than a 35° rainy one, that goes right to the bone🥶
Totally agree
Yes I will agree that all is relative. When I 'had to' I did but (sadly) those days are far behind me now.
Quote from: Magicman on October 30, 2021, 10:27:30 AM
I will not saw in the rain.
Me too Neither!
If o the manual mill, which is all open, I wrap up when the rain starts. Down on the LT50 (covered) I will keep milling if I get caught in the rain (to a point), but won't start milling if it's a rainy day. Not worth the mud and the slip/trip hazards with wet wood.
I did run my manual under a tarp for a couple of years with good results.
It doesn't have to rain here in the cold to be bone chilling cold. We have humidity. That puts a dampness in places you don't wanna have dampness. I agree with Old Greenhorn..... Not worth the mud and the slip/trip hazards with wet wood.
I don't like have my frame rails wet. I like to keep them dry and lubed with ATF. I have 1 inch split loom automotive conduit I cover my top rail with, after dosing the ATF on it, each time I bed it down.
For years, I had to work on wet airliners. I did it when I had to. I don't have to get wet anymore, unless I want to.
hugs, Brandi