Barker Rim Circle Saws were produced in Springfield Mo. in the 40's and 50's giving way to Barker Chainsaws in the 60"s and 70's. Does anyone remember them?
Can`t say I do because I don`t. :)
Why do you ask?
My Grandad manafactured these. I guess most who used the old rimsaws are gone now or at least not as active.
Noble, can you tell us more? What's a rim saw? Do you have any pictures of this stuff? Inquiring minds want to know. :P
I don't have any means of posting a picture but will describe them to the best of my ability.
First the blade, picture a solid tooth, light gage sawblade (they were made in about 4 sizes from 20" to 36") with the center cut out leaving the teeth and about 2" of the saw rim.
The blade was enclosed in a skeleton frame (except for the area that did the cutting and rode on rollar bearings.
A fiber wheel made contact with the blade and was activated by a deadman's clutch which was part of the grip on the frame.
Power was a 4hp Koler engine on the end of a flexible cable about 8' long. Some models had power products engines mounted directly on the frame. The earliest being two cylinder and had to be swiveled for felling.
These things took a "man" to operate them and would have really attracted OSHA's attention. They were especially tricky in felling as the blade was easily pinched. On the other hand they would way outcut the early chainsaws. Grandad used one over a chainsaw until his death in the late 60's.
People bought them and went into the custom woodcutting business. The senior class sponser at Gainesville H.S.(MO.) Bought one and the senior class cut wood to finance their senior trip. Can you imagine that happening now?
That's an interesting concept. I can see where it would draw some fire from the whackos that think people should keep their limbs for their whole life. ::)
It reminds me of the old "cordwood" saws they used to use around here. Those things spent half their time cutting peglegs for their operators.
I'd still like to see some pictures, if you could ever arrange it.
anyone from west virgina ever see a mill set up to cut wedges for the mines. there was a machine that ate fingers and more. every time i delivered wedge blocks to one the hand shake was always a few fingers short.
Noble,
I scanned that picture from the paper,with the Barker Rim Circle Saw.It is an interesting old saw. I'd love to see one running 8)
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Does that thing come with an ambulance?
Kevin,
Those saws were no more dangerous that a chain saw while used for bucking. There is a part that is not shown in the picture. The part you see attaches (at the lower right ) to a bar that hooks over the log. In effect it is a large portable chop saw. You had more control over them than a chainsaw------until you used it for felling, that was a different story. The one in the picture has a 20 inch blade, they were made up to 36 inches.
Paul,
Take your family to Branson some time and come on over.
We can fire up an old saw if you want to, but I can think of a lot of things that would be more fun.
Noble
Noble, do you have a camcorder? is there anyway you could take a video and send it to me so we could put it up on the forum? At least send me some real photos by mail and I will get them on.
Jeff,
I'll send you some pictures of the saws as well as a Mercury Diston saw that was mentioned in an earlier post by someone else.
Noble
That will be great. Its hard to tell whats going on in the mimeographed copy that you sent to Paul and I. I'm looking forward to it as I really dont understand the mechanics by looking at the picture available.
Video, Schmideo! Let's just all gather up at Noble's house this fall, and play with the things. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) :o :o
Don't wait till this fall, I'm way behind!!
Any time any of you are in this area, I would love to show you the scenic waterpowered mills of Ozark Co.
We do have a bunch of old farming and sawmilling machinery around the place too.
Branson is about 80 miles from here, but I can find a music party about any weekend for free. We can join in on the pickin if you want.
Hootin-n-Hollerin is held every fall in Gainsville. You can go with me and do a little Gospel Singing.
DanG if I don't think I could outsaw an Echo with a 60 year old Rim Saw. I've hooked one with a cable to a tractor pto before. The 540 was too slow, but we have a 1000rpm pto now.
Noble
Noble, be careful how you speak. I and Sweetie are about to buy a bigger and better motor home, and we gonna be itchin' ta try it out!!
I don't doubt that you can out-cut any chainsaw with one of them rim saws. There's a reason that JeffB and Ron W use circle saws. They are the fastest way this side of dynamite. I also know that a chainsaw with a bow will put a bar to shame, in the right environment. The Barker is just a circle bow-saw, and I wouldn't bet against it with somebody else's money. :)
Noble,
If I could get away,I would be there in an instant.I haven't been out of this valley for months.It's hard with the new baby right now,but thats OK. They tend to grow fast,and soon will travel well.I have a friend who spent the better part of a year,travelling with his wife through the southern states.He picked up work along the way,and was in no hurry to go home.
I didn't know you still had any Rim Saws around that operate.
Paul,
While taking pictures for Jeff this morning, I counted six that appeaar to be in operating condition. Four of them are cable driven and there isn't much to go wrong with them but the blade. They originally used a 4 or 5 hp Kohler engine on the cable and we don't have a good one. A tractor pto is too slow, but I've got a 20hp Honda that would make one humm I bet. The ones with the engines mounted havn't been run for several years but I'm sure would go again with a little tinkering.
Jeff should have the pictures next week sometime.
DanG,
Come on.
Noble
DanG,
Here is the view across the road from our pine plantation. The Ozark Mtns. aren't very high but some of the hollers are pretty deep. If you get an all wheel drive motorhome, you can park it down at this hollow on Bryant Creek.
Noble
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Noble, that's some kinda pretty country, up there. We took the long way to Fort Worth, Tx a couple of years ago, and did a little tour of the Ozarks, along the way. We got as far as Mountain Home, before we had to turn south, so we weren't far from you.
We are rooted pretty deep in our home territory, but if I ever leave here, that's where I'd like to be.
Here are the pictures of the Barker Rim Circle Saw that Jeff asked me to send.
picture one is: 2 cylinder power products engine that swivils for felling. The blade is 36 in diameter.
picture two is: 34 in cable drive saw with a Kohler engine (4 or 5 hp).
picture three is: 20 inch cable drive saw leaning against 55 gal. drum.
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Thank you very much Jeff for doctoring the kodacs and helping me post them.
Noble
Good shots of the saws,Noble.They are bigger than I imagined they would be.The stands attached to the bottom,what do theydo/how do they work? Are they something to do with the anti kickback?
Paul,
The arm has a hook on the front which is visible in the first photo. It hooks into the log and stabilizes the saw and prevents it from moving back. They didn't grab as bad as a chinsaw does so I'm not sure you would call it 'kickback'.
The arm is spring loaded and pivots toward the back.
The metal I believe is Magnesium. They were lighter than you might think. At least as light as chainsaws of that time.
Noble
Noble,
If they are light, portable, and could be modified to make an accurate chop saw type cut...is the factory tooling still around? Sounds like a good log home cutoff saw. Above a 16" skillsaw one has to go to stationary machines for cutoff or use a chainsaw. That rig should leave a nice cut.
Don,
We have the old patterns in a shed somewhere. I don't know how many a guy would have to sell to pay to have a foundry make the parts. I think the patterns are the expensive part. The little 20 in model with an electric motor would sure beat the tar out of those big skill saws. The blades might also be a problem, but a guy could have a saw shop put carbide tips on one.
There ought to be some old saws laying around in the VanBuren area. If you are serious about trying one, you might have your family there run an add or watch sale bills for one. I can probably fix you up with a new cable as there were a whack of them left when the family sold out. I've got what was left of the old stuff.
The last ones the company produced were for an Amish store in Penn. That was in the 60's. They were going to power them from the front of tractor engines. They wanted 75 units. Grandad had me scour the warehouse for all the old parts I could find. I think we found enough parts to make about 25 cable drive saws.
Noble
I got me one now!
Here is a good picture of Nobles Dads saw. Mine is just like it only yeller.
http://www.tomssaw.com/gallery/album03/Dsc00118
Is that blade on backwards? It looks like it would run the operator down if it pinched. "cours the sawdust goes the other way :D
Noble, explain how the blade is driven. I don't see any cogs. ..........and how is it held in place so that it doesn't eat up the safety shield on top? :P
Tom,
Jeff has a picture of the other side (it's on the shows and meeting place forum) that helps show how it's driven. On the above picture, notice the rollers in front of the engine. That just backs up the friction drive roller on the opposite side of the blade. The clutch lever on the handle pulls the engine over so the fiber drive roller engages the blade. The clutch lever also opens up the throttle. You can see the mounts in this photo where the engine swivils.
You notice the piece of metal inside the blade (except where the cutting is done. There are rollers in this that the blade rides on and keep it in place.
Jeff found a fellow with one of the cable drive saws while he was here. The guy was willing to sell it but couldn't remember where it was. He did remember he had taken it apart.
He called the day after Jeff and Tammy left saying that he found all the parts. I told him Jeff was gone but I would give him $25 for it and keep it for myself if Jeff didn't want it. He mulled it over for about 2 seconds and said he'd wait till that guy from Michigan (he was thinking rich yankee) came back :D
Tell him I'll give him 20 and a jar of Pickled Baloney. That reminds me, I took noble a jar of that delicacy!
Went over to Harolds tonight and took the Barker. We stood in the garage and watched the rain and drank a diet coke. Then we tackled the saw. Took about 2 minutes to get it running. ;D
Shes a wicked lookin little puppy. Cant wait till tomorrow. I think I'll cut some wood. :)
You better give the ambulance a five minute head start. :D
I'm not sure if I will need chaps or a complete set of knights armour. :D
In that case with all the sparks you better give the fire dept. a five minute head start too. :D
I'll have to take a video. I have showed the saw to a lot of folks up here and not one has ever seen one. They must have been one of those things they kept on the other side of the Mississippi.
I hope it's good and sharp.
I just did a google search, and this may be unrelated, but its at least a little bit eerie. Barker is the name of the Director of the Texas chainsaw massacre :o
I know his mother De. ;D
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I am not a small engine guy so I need some pointers. When I rev the engine and start to cut, the engine dies out. Or if I simply try to hold the throttle open. This is a westbend 2 cycle engine.
I'd guess that the engine is running a little lean. If it has been in storage for some time, expect a little gumming of the jets. Soimetime just running them witrh fresh fuel cleans them out, sometimes it takes a good soak in carburetor cleaner. Once in a while, it works to just close the adjustment needles and them open them again. It seems to push the junk out of the jet and away you go.
Is there a governor on it?
What make of carb?
Boy! That would really foul it up, Kevin, 'Specially if it was Florida's Governor ::) :D
I'll have to look tomorrow. I really need to clean it up. THe carb is filthy on the outside. It has some sort of hard cardboard or paper air filter. I'll take pictures. I did get it to saw a little although its dull. Looks pretty cool throwing that rooster tail of sawdust up and away from you. 8)
Did ya remember ta count yer toes and yer fingers when you were done. ;)
woodenta done no good. Not sure what uh started twit.
Jeff,
If the saw is running a little lean, leaving the choke part on should cause it to run better. This isn't a cure, of course, only to help diagnose. Maybe running it this way a little till it warms up or the carb cleans up would solve the problem. You might need to adjust the needles------probably has a high and low speed needle. It would have been set for beautiful Ozark weather. You take it up there in damnyankee land and should expect to adjust the carb for cruddy weather :D
Check the vent on the cap as well.
Here are some pictures of my Barker. Can somebody give me a procedure for adjusting this sort of carb? I really have no idea. Not a small engine guy atall.
Kevin, the cap has a corg liner. The vent is not plugged as gas will run out if you tip the saw.
The Barker cut its own stand! 8)
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Right side
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Leftside
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Carb
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The way I usually adjust any carb that has an idle jet and a load jet is to start closing the idle jet while it's running. When it starts to cut out, I open it back a half turn. Then I run it at full throttle and start opening up the high speed jet until it starts to bog down and then close it down a half turn. Next I see if it accelerates from idle to full speed smoothly, If not I try small adjustments first with the idle and then with the high speed. After that is done I try it under a load and fine tune the high speed jet.
Make sure points & plug are in top shape before starting on the carb adjustment.
The way I do it is probably not right, but that's the method I have come up with over the years. Old gas tractors need to be adjusted with weather changes and I suspect small engines with the older carbs do too.
Jeff,
Might be a good idea to carefully close both needles counting exactly how many turns and fractions of turns they are open, then write it down. Then you should be able to keep from getting it completely messed up :D :D
See if you can see the name tiltson on the carb. If so, I can supply you with parts I think.
I'm guessing Tillotson HC or HJ.
If you could take it apart and lay all the pieces out it would help. :D
Noble, do the drive wheels on the saws wear out? I mean that cone shaped wheel?
"If you could take it apart and lay all the pieces out it would help."
Help what?
check this out ...
http://www.minidoodle.com/id191.htm
Perfect!
Probably, but I would guess not very fast.
Mine has deep grooves in it. Thought it looked wore in.
Jeff;
Do you know which screws on that carb are the hi and low adjustment?
No. Do you?
Better yet, will you tell me? :)
#23 looks like the high speed
#22 looks like the idle mixture screw
#28 looks like the idle speed screw
It may or may not have a governor valve, some do and some don't.
This one does I think.
If it has it should be a larger plug type screw with a slotted head between the hi and lo screws.
The idle mixture screw will be the one nearest the engine.
Noble, it the saw usually filed while on the saw or taken off? I probably need to pick up a small setting tool. I would think you would use one of those squeeze type?
Jeff,
I asked Dad about filing them snd setting. He said file it on the saw. They came out with a guide that you used with a hammer according to him. Sounds like some of you were talding about on another thread for setting crosscuts. Dad said if it were him he'd go down to the hardware and get one of those sets that have a handle and a slot that the tooth goes in. They had an adjustable stop. The guys at the hardware probably never heard of one unless they are an old-timer :D A guy could make one of those pretty easy. I have one somewhere but havn't seen it for years.
Jeff,
There are a couple other things you might want to check that will cause a lean mixture. Check that you have good fuel flow to carb, also check fuel screen that is in carb. An air leak will also cause a lean mixture, the most common cause is a loose carburetor.
WHy don't you come down? We will play wifit. Its fun. I think its startin to bug the neighbors. 8)
On the power adjusting needle, it seems like it is loose. I adjusted it in finger tight, and then out 1 and an eighth turn. you can jiggle the screw sideways with your fingers. Cant get anywhere with adjusting. Comments?
Too bad it ain't SANTY time--------maybe someone would give you a new needle :P ;D
Noble, do you think kits are available yet for this carb?
Noble, I took the needle out and I cant see anything wrong with it. Almost seems like its in the carb body but then again I'm ignorant on this...
Jeff, how did you make out turning the lean screw?
Does that have a large head on it, maybe the old screws had a spring under the head?
Is there still lots of thread in the carb?
There does not seem to be much thread in the carb after backing out the fast screw. There is no external spring on either screw.
The low speed screw does seem to alter the way the engine runs.
both screws appear to be about the same.
One turn out isn't much of a turn but maybe the adjustments were considerably different on those old carbs.
Kevin, we will have to lean on Noble for this, but I think this saw aint that old. I think it was one of thier later or maybe last models. Maybe early 1960's late 50s at the oldest.
Noble, prepare for some serious :-* ing up.
Well, maybe i'll go up to the shop tomorrow and see what kind of carbs and parts I can find, if I'm not too busy, or too tired, or I don't forget. Maybe I'll wait till next week, cause it's a long time till Santy time ;D
I'm afraid that the carbs we have are for chainsaws, but I'm not sure. Even so, maybe the needles or some other parts are the same.
I think they ought to have springs under the screws to keep them from vibrating out of adjustment.
Is Tillitson still in business?
Without any kind of pressure test it will be difficult to determine if it's just a carb problem.
If you really want to get it working well it's probably going to cost a few bucks.
There is a guy that works exclusively on Tillotson carbs in TN(I think that's where he's at).
I'm making a list and checking it twice-----------that is a list of demands of the big guy, just in case I find him a carb. I know there is a box of new and used tillitsons up at the shop. ;D
QuoteI'm making a list and checking it twice-----------that is a list of demands of the big guy, just in case I find him a carb. I know there is a box of new and used tillitsons up at the shop. ;D
:) :)
Oh Boy.
QuoteIf you really want to get it working well it's probably going to cost a few bucks.
Why?
You should test the entire saw for leaks.
It isn't big bucks until they start stripping it down to replace the gaskets.
All depends on what you want to do with it.
If it's just carb work it won't be much but that's ify considering the age of the saw.
Don't get too worried about the $$$, those Tillotson carbs are pretty simple inside, not many parts to wear out or break.
Under the diaphram should be one or two round holes with lighter colored metal covers on them. It could be that one or more of the jets (small holes in that carb) are plugged with deposits. The plugs can be removed by gently tapping a pin punch into the center with a light hammer until they will fall out. They really need to be replaced with new, but you can reuse the old ones in a pinch by putting them with the now convex side up and using the same hammer and punch to reverse the curvature until they will fit easily back into the hole you took them from, then gently punch down the center until they fit snug again. These plugs should be less than a dollar each, if you can find a dealer that stocks them.
Before you go to much trouble, remove the adjustment screws and look at the ends to see if any was broken off inside the carburetor. If I remember correctly, the needles should taper to a point. If the end is flat, the point may still be inside th carb, blocking the orofice that the gas needs to flow through, making adjustments impossible.
Boy is it hard to diagnose and describe from this far away. You need to move closer so I can play with, uh, I mean work on this in person.
Jeff,
Check out this site, it may have info for your carb. http://www.deadsledwrenchers.com/Tillotson.htm
Here's another ...
http://www.eccarburetors.com/
Thought I would give you a few of my Cable drive Barker Rim saw that Noble picked up at an auction for me. Roy May hauled the durn thing have way acrossed the country to me and I got it at the Paul Bunyan show. Thanks again Roy! I am going to post a picture of the part I have to fix or get to so Noble can see it. I can hardly wait till next old engine show season! :)
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What's the part number?
Whats your guess? :)
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There was a Salley saw that was a lot like the Barker except the saw rim was mounted on a 4 or 5 foot extension shaft, as I remember the saw rim had square holes punched in it and a drive fit into the holes and turned the rim. It had a conventional chain saw motor to drive it, probably an early Techumse or West Bend. I was told they were developed for cutting under water, especially used for cutting Cypress knees in the swamps down south.
Dave
Would that possibly have been 'Sallee'? Do you have a picture of one?
The Barker Saw was originally made at Ava, Mo. A machinest that worked there was named 'Doc' Sallee. When the company moved to Springfield, Doc stayed in Ava and using Barker parts made various similarities. Sounds like what you might have seen.
I'm very glad to see that this thread got reactivated. I had ran across this thread many months back, & have recently been thinking about it. Problem was I couldn't remember exactly where I had read it. Thanks!
Jeff,
Thanks for the pictures :o thats one heck of a critter you got their. I had never seen one of these saws before and didn't even know such an animal existed. If you dont mind me asking what does somthing like that sell for ??? and where would you find one? Just in case a fella like myself wanted one. ;)
Erick, I think you just about have to go to Mo to find one. No one up around these parts had ever seen one before I brought the engine mounted machine back. Chet had it up to Iron River for a spell to show off to the loggers and it was all new to them. I love cutting with it. Noble and I spent a day running around looking for one, and we found this one at an old fellers house wired up under an outbuilding over hang. He said he had to have a hundred for it and I didnt try to dicker with him. As for the cable drive saw, I dont know what thats going to cost me yet. The guy with the orange complexion aint told me yet, but HEY! I got the saw! :D
I got to see a sallee saw at an old engine show. I missed out on it cause I didnt get Harolds message in time. He was at the auction but didnt bid cause he said he didnt know if I was INTERESTED!??
I got to look at it the next day but the new owner was pretty tight with it. Reminded me of an outboard motor with a blade instead of a prop.
I was pre-school and elementary when those saws were being made. I know that some were sold in Arkansas, Louisiana, and Mississippi, cause Elmo (whom I have posted about) had a sales route there. I think he mostly traded guns and pocket knives, however, and used the saw selling story to tell his wife. Elmo is still living or I could tell you some funny stories
Grandad gave me stamps form foreign countries so there was some interest in other countries. I remember they saying that they sold quite a few to pulp cutters in Canada. The saws were more suited to bucking than felling.
They started making chain saws in the mid 50's and the last rim saws were sold to some Amish in Penn. or possibly Ohio in the mid 60's. I helped Grandad scrounge up the parts in the warehouse. We could only find enough parts to partially fill the order.
The best place to buy one would be at a farm auction. If there was a dealer in your area, your local auctioneers have probably come across them. If you show them a picture, they will likely remember if they have seen them.
I'll try to remember to ask Dad where all they had dealers.
As for cost, if you find one it will probably cost much less than Jeff's is going to cost him :D :D : :D-------he's gonna be paying forever :D :D :D
Jeff,
I finally remembered to look in the barn where there are some old saw parts. I found one with a part #1004 that looks like yours. When are you coming down to pick it up? ;D
That would be to easy! I am sure there has got to be a forum member down there that will drive all night and part of a day to deliver it. :D
HEY ROY!!! ;)
Thanks Jeff I guess I'll have to plan a trip to MO sometime. Always looking for an excuse to go on vacation. Hey Noble what do you charge for the guided tour. :D
Erick,
Would that be the 'hill' tour or the 'hollar' tour?
Prices will be doubling after the first of the year ;)
About the only vacation I get is when FF members come by :)
Gosh Noble I guess I'll take the hill tour I dont know I'd like you a hollar'n at me. ;D :D ;D :D
I guy I know stopped me today. ??? Said he had to tell me about a strange chain saw a logger buddy of his was tellin' him about. His buddy said a friend of his showed it to a bunch of loggers at da gas station last spring, was da d**mndist thing he ever saw. Was kinda like a small buzz saw dat had a lawnmower engine, and it even ran. ;D :D :D :D :D
Bit of an odd way to introduce one's self, by digging up an ancient thread, but here goes!
On doing a Google search for the old Barker Saw Co. rim circle saws, I came across this. Read it for a bit and discovered that Bro. Noble is none other than my grandfather! At least, the chances of another person having that name, hailing from Drury, Missouri, and claiming to be the grandson of W. I. Barker (my great-great-grandfather) are pretty slim!
Saw a few of the pictures posted which reminded me immediately of the originals he's got hanging on the various walls throughout the house. I've seen the handful of these old things he's got, still hanging about in the shop, along with a wealth of other equally fascinating machines (to include the aforementioned Mercury-Diston two-man saw). I'm a bit jealous, as I've never seen one running and working.
One of the pictures shows my uncle (mom's brother) operating one of the later mounted-engine rim circle saws. Wasn't there for that one, unfortunately. Think I'll need to make the trip from Idaho to go see everyone again! I'll see if we can't get some of the old machines fired up and running, and take some good videos.
Oddly enough I came accross this on Portland (Oregon) Craigslist just this morning EMAIL ADDRESS EDITED OUT [?] I'm pretty sure I've never seen one of these before.
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Your URL is for sending a message to the seller. ;D ;D
What should we ask?
Test it out in the Preview mode before posting... :) :)
And/or just tell us what you found.. :)
Oldgearhead I'm pretty certain Noble Barker would not be your grandfather, uncle perhaps?
Whoops sorry about the bad URL, I'm real new at this, anyway if you go to Portland Craigslist in the farm and garden section type in "chainsaw" and hit search, there's an old Barker chainsaw. Glad I don't have to pack it around, looks like it's made of cast iron. Good pictures though.
Quote from: Oldgearhead on November 28, 2008, 03:40:14 PMI came across this. Read it for a bit and discovered that Bro. Noble is none other than my grandfather!
:o :o :o :o GULP-----GASP :o :o :o :o :o :o
Has Tom got a brother, Br'er Noble? :D
What did you do in the War, Daddy? :D :D
OK Noble, whats da story? :D
Quote from: JeffOldgearhead I'm pretty certain Noble Barker would not be your grandfather, uncle perhaps?
Wow... that's embarrassing! I managed to miss the age. He'd be a little... young, considering my own age.
Yes, I do believe Bro. Noble would be an uncle to me. If he tells me that's him in the picture, messing with the old rim circle saw, then yes, though it'd mean I've been confused about first names for thirty years.
No need to be embarrassed, I'm of the opinion that Br'er Noble would make a dandy Grandfather, regardless of whose he is. :D
I like to think of him as mine,, even though he does llook a might peculiar ay this time of year.
Wes, Is that you? I was getting a little nervous there for a while :D :D :D
Lets get a few things strait here. First I don't think of Jeff as my Grandson-----naughty little stepbrother, maybe ;)
Second, 'Oldgearhead' is evidentally my sister's son. Welcome to the forum, Wes. Tell these good folks a little about yourself. Your experience with Uncle sam, maybe post a few pictures of your cars. We've got lots of veterns and truck and car lovers on the forum.
Now on family names. W.I Barker was not your GGrandad, but his cousin. They were co-owners of the saw company for a couple of years. Your GGrandad was Noble A Barker. Dad is Noble G. Barker whom you thought was the forum member. I'm Noble G. Jr. Due to the confusion with all the Nobles in the family, the family always called me by my middle name (or various nicknames) and Dad by his nickname.
I'm sorry if I've dissapointed anyone with these clarifications :D :D
Bro...what "clarifications"....??
Doesn't take much to confuse me... ;D ;D
Tell us about some of those various nicknames, Bro? ;D
Quote from: DanG on November 29, 2008, 06:50:42 PM
Tell us about some of those various nicknames, Bro? ;D
Not likely :D :D :D
I will have to say that for a moment I thought this was going to turn into the best thread ever.....you know lost family maybe even new family. I'm still not sure Noble's giving us all the facts, anyone got Mrs' Nobles phone number. ;D
Well I know one thing, it has the greatest two word response ever on the forum:
Gulp, Gasp. :D
Sorry to dig up such a super old thread. Was doing some googling about these old barker saws after me and my dad had been talking about them. I was surprised to see that people still talk about them, or at least did back in '08...
Arelative has or had a couple old barker saws, I remember looking at the when I was a little kid.
Woodcutter_Mo,welcome to the forum. I see you have a LT25. Been sawing long? ;D
Quote from: thecfarm on November 12, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
Woodcutter_Mo,welcome to the forum. I see you have a LT25. Been sawing long? ;D
Thanks, my dad bought the lt25 about 5 years ago. We don't use it a ton but just mostly use it for our own use. We cut for the neighbors sometimes. I like the machine but will probably add some hydraulics eventually ;D
resurrecting this old thread
PAny of the barker brethren still around here? I got a GT7 im trying to locate a manual and IPL for